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Title:Welcome to GAMES
Notice:Use 501CLB::GAMES, all DOOM stuff to 501CLB::PCDOOM
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Created:Sat Feb 15 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3127
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3118.0. "3dFX/VooDoo 3d-Accelerator" by RTOMS::HUEBNERS (www.muc.de/~sh) Fri Mar 21 1997 13:10

Hello !

Has anybody in this group also bought a 3dFX-Accelerator ?

I got mine yesterday (Diamond Monster 3D).

The card is an addon to any existing 2d-Adapter (works well with
my Millenium). It supports Perspective-correct texture mapping,
Z-buffering, advanced texture filtering, Anti-aliasing,
Gouraud shading, etc. (see www.diamondmm.com for details)
               

The graphic is incredible ! Its like playing games in the arcade.
Descent II runs at about 40 fps (on a 166 MMX/EDO). With the GL-Version of
Quake I get about 38 fps. The textures are totally different than in
the standard game versions. Eg. there are no more "big" pixels visable if
you look at walls from close distance. Look at 
http://www.orchid.com/products/righteous/comparison.html
for a comparison.

One disadvantage is that the games only run in 640x480x16bpp screen mode.

I also bought POD, which supports both MMX (Dolby Surround) and native
3dFX. Its a car race and it makes use of animated textures. Its the best
car race I've ever seen on PCs. I suspect the Frame Rate also is about
40 fps. It supports split-screen modes for two players, which is
playable at the same gamespeed.

I hope to see more games with support for the Voodoo-chipset; Formula1
from Psygnosis and Xwing vs. Tiefighter are hot candidates :-)


Stefan.
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3118.145862::HILTONSave Water, drink beerThu Mar 27 1997 12:286
    Stefan,
    
    How did you choose between the Monster 3D and the righteous Orchid 3d?
    
    
    Greg
3118.2Highly recommendeddlj.alf.dec.com::jenningsThis space for rentWed Apr 02 1997 11:5414
re: .0

Awesome!  Based on the review in .0, I went and got one yesterday.  It really 
blows your socks off.  Not only are the accelerated games much, much faster, but 
they look really good.  In fact, the first few times I was playing GLQuake, I 
kept getting killed because I was doing too much sight-seeing!

To give you an idea of the amount of acceleration, in the opening screen of the 
Quake Mission Pack I, I was getting 17 frames per second at 538x400 with a 
Matrox Mystique.  With the 3Dfx, I get 40 fps at 640x480 and the visual 
appearance is much more pleasing.

Now, does anyone know how I can get my full version of Descent II to use the 
3Dfx?  (The version shipped with the card is the shareware version).
3118.345862::HILTONSave Water, drink beerWed Apr 02 1997 12:3014
    re .2
    
    I also bought an Orchid R3D yesterday, AWESOME!!
    
    I got bundled Descent II with the card, as well as Fatal Racing, MW2
    and Actua Soccer, all 3DFX enchanced!!
    
    You can just buy Descent ][ and then download a patch to run the 3dfx
    version.
    
    
    Greg
    
    ..waiting for F1 from Pysgnosis
3118.445862::HILTONSave Water, drink beerWed Apr 02 1997 14:198
    For reasons to buy a Voodoo accelerator, check out:
    
    http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~fgrayson/3dfxscreenshots/Formula1/image04.jpg
    
    Unbelievable, my mates at Pysgnosis say the game will ship, end of
    April.
    
    Greg
3118.5POD-fastest Racing Game everRTOMS::HUEBNERSwww.muc.de/~shFri Apr 11 1997 07:598
    A shareware version of POD is available at
    
    http://www.ubisoft.com/usgames/pod2.html
    
    (Supports 3dfx, MMX etc.)
    
    bye,
    	Stefan.
3118.6Anyone want some 3dfx games?45862::rasmodem43.reo.dec.com::hiltonghiltong@mail.dec.comThu May 01 1997 08:0711
This card never ceases to amaze me, some of the demos are great! 

Just got TombRaider for it which is gobsmacking!

Anyhow, I got some free games with the Orchid, and I got two copies 
of Fatal Racing (known as Whiplash in the USA), and Actua Socccer. I 
also got MechWarrior II which I don't like.

So I'll sell or swop 'em with other 3dfx owners/games.

Greg
3118.7VYGER::GIBSONJSundays papers on a Saturday?Thu May 01 1997 19:1016
    I bought a Matrox Mystique 2mb for my P166.
    I managed to get a tad more speed in GP2.
    A - Would it improve if I upgraded to 4mb.
    
    B - Can I add a Voodoo 3D to my Mystique, or do I have to install my
    2D card Diamond Stealth, which I still have to run with it.
    
    C - Which would be faster.
    	The Mystique with 4mb, or the 2D Diamond Stealth along with the
    VooDoo Accelerator.
    
    D - How much for a VooDoo?
    
    Thanks.
    
    John. 
3118.8Some answers45862::lzodhcp-182-48-148.lzo.dec.com::hiltonghiltong@mail.dec.comFri May 02 1997 08:2820
3118.9dlj.alf.dec.com::jenningsFri May 02 1997 13:303
A MONSTER 3
fx board from Diamond is $184 from NECX Direct.  It works just fine with a 
Matrox card.  I have mine working with a Millennium.
3118.10VYGER::GIBSONJSundays papers on a Saturday?Fri May 02 1997 14:305
    THANKS GUYS,
    
    By the way, I assume it slots into a PCI slot?
    
    John.
3118.11Yes, it's a PCI cardalfras1_port13.alf.dec.com::jenningsI'm still hereSat May 03 1997 14:571
3118.12F1 out!!!45862::maxine1.lzo.dec.com::hiltonghiltong@mail.dec.comFri May 16 1997 15:0467
3118.13VYGER::GIBSONJSundays papers on a Saturday?Mon May 19 1997 15:343
    Will F1 work with a Matrox Mystique?
    
    John.
3118.1445862::16.42.3.105::hiltonghiltong@mail.dec.comTue May 27 1997 15:463
Yes, but I think it lists 4mb as min video memory.

Got it on Sunday, not much time to play yet, very different to F1 GP2