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Conference rdvax::new_england_patriots

Title:New England Patriots (volume V)
Moderator:RMVMS::MAILLET
Created:Tue May 07 1991
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:268
Total number of notes:10777

260.0. "Parcell's return?" by PCBUOA::WALLS () Mon Jan 27 1997 20:01

    
    The thing that I have'nt figured out yet about all this compensation
    talk is that these rumors say that if Parcells goes to the Jets that he
    will take Peyton Manning with his first pick. 
    
    But what are they going to do with Niel O'Donnell? Did'nt he just get
    a Mega contract with a ton of money up front? And if they wanted to
    get rid of him would'nt they have to pay him off? 
    
    Just a thought...
    
    				Sean
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260.1SNAX::ERICKSONTue Jan 28 1997 12:4710
    
    	Peyton Manning has the ability and chance to become a franchise QB
    in the mold of Marino/Elway/Aikman. Something Neil O'Donnell will never
    be. Yes, he signed a 5 yr 25 million dollar contract last year. So you
    let him start for 2 years with Manning as the backup. Then either trade
    him or cut him, eating the last 2 years of the contract. The Jets also
    spent a lot of money on the Offensive Line. So if they take Orlando
    Pace they would have the same problem.
    
    Ron 
260.2GLRMAI::WILKESTue Jan 28 1997 14:086
    If the Jets are paying big bucks for both Manning and O'Donnell as well
    as for Keyshawn Johnson they will have nothing for Offensive and
    Defensive lineman and as a result will continue to be bottom feeders.
    
    In today's game you can't afford to pay big $ to two QB's particularly
    when they are of uncertain ability.
260.3SHRCTR::YOUNGTue Jan 28 1997 15:105
    Having seen both Peyton Manning and Jake Plummer play several times
    each this past season, I believe that Plummer may be the more succesful
    QB over time ....... 
    
    greg              
260.4Parcells first firingWONDER::REILLYSean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375Thu Feb 13 1997 19:436
    
    Looks like Nick Lowery paid the price for picking on that
    ball boy last season....  :^)
    
    - Sean
    
260.5Wouldn't surprise me!DONVAN::SCOPAFri Feb 14 1997 12:353
    Matt Bahr....come on down!
    
    Maj
260.6Good move....PCBUOA::WALLSTue Feb 25 1997 18:356
    
    
    Well, Parcells does have some class.
    
    				Sean
    
260.7Thanks once again, Bob KraftWONDER::REILLYSean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375Wed Feb 26 1997 00:3210
    
    The Parcells Regime begins!
    
    Bill picked up Pepper Johnson for the Jets!  Ha!  Same old Bill,
    raiding the NFL of unwanted ex-Giants.  The Jets deserve him,
    but best of all, unlike here in NE, there's NOTHING to stop him!
    
    :^) :^)
    
    - Sean
260.8ZEKE::CAMILLERIWed Feb 26 1997 12:399
    YUP, here we go with Bill Parcells going after X-giants...I believe
    Pepper is 32-33, so now the Jets will become the jets/Giants......
    
    Love to watch to see the picks Parcell does...I will miss him because I
    think he was beast at preparing his players, but I think the
    infrastructure at NE will over come his loss....If they continue to
    pick the right players......
    
    I look for Parcells to continue picking up X Giants....
260.9I'm more worried about losing our own players...PCBUOA::WALLSWed Feb 26 1997 14:5911
    
    Actually Pepper Johnson had a pretty good year last year if my 
    memory serves me right.
    
    But my worry is when Parcells starts going after X-Patriots. The
    players had alot of respect for Parcells and when thier contracts
    are up they might go over there for the right money. And if the Pats
    have a few bad years this might make the coaxing a little easier.
    
    				Sean
     
260.10Could Scott Brunner be far behind?TNPUBS::NAZZAROUMass is back - watch out NCAA!Wed Feb 26 1997 19:247
    Actually, Pepper did next to nothing lasted season - it was the year
    before that he played well.
    
    I wonder how long it will take before Matt Bahr shows up at the
    Meadowlands, since the Tuna already cut Nick Lowery?
    
    NAZZ
260.11the probing is already on....LUDWIG::MMILLERAlaskaThu Feb 27 1997 01:2810
    
    
       
       Parcells already tried to pick up one of the Patriots players off
    the practice squad, I can't remember who it was off hand but he didn't 
    see alot of playing time, Parcells thought he had alot of potential
    and wanted him but the Patriot player (untill I think of his name)
    wasn't interrested. Just one of many attempts I'm sure.....
    
    3M
260.12ABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars & Sideshows.....Thu Feb 27 1997 11:425
    
    
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    It was reserve OL J.R. Conrad.
260.13CSLALL::BRULESpring Training is hereThu Feb 27 1997 11:4611
    JR Conrad is the OL from the practice squad that BP was after.
    According to today's Globe he's also after Otis Smith, Troy Brown and
    Ferric Collons but he needs to clear up cap money. I don't think that
    losing the first 2 would be a loss but Collons came out of nowhere and
    played solid at the end of the year. The Pats get first refusal on him.
    I wonder if Bill will give him a 1 mill one year contract? Wait until
    McGinnest becomes a free Agent and Parcells goes after him. 
    A side note but who else caught Curtis Martin escorting Toni Braxton to
    the Grammy's. 
    
    Mike
260.14RTL::ROSESteve RoseThu Feb 27 1997 12:475
Re *.13

I don't know.  I think that losing Troy Brown would be a loss.
He's a good special teams player, and he's the only other receiver
capable of catching the ball other than Glenn.
260.15STRATA::MMILLERAlaskaFri Feb 28 1997 02:048
    
    
       Troy Brown played well this year I thought, he made some good
    catches including that big one on his back for a 1st down I believe
    it was. I'd say he's a keeper especially since Brisby's an unknown
    right now, who's to say how he'll be or play next season.
    
    3M
260.16SUBPAC::KELLEYFri Feb 28 1997 10:084
    I thought that was Martin to but could not find anybody who
      recognized him.
    
                           Walter
260.17RTL::ROSESteve RoseFri Feb 28 1997 12:273
Re *.16

The catch on his back was most certainly by Troy Brown!!