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Conference jamin::pw95ift

Title:PATHWORKS for Windows 95
Notice:PWW95 1.0A Available -- See notes 3.39 and 8.7
Moderator:JAMIN::SYSTEMROM
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:646
Total number of notes:2900

625.0. "Win95 clients won't disconnect their sessions" by SUFRNG::WSA028::DOWNING_L () Wed Mar 05 1997 10:56

cross posted to PW95IFT


I have a customer with a PATHWORKS for OpenVMS 5.0D ECO2 server that has
Windows 3.1, WFW, and Windows 95 clients.

When the Windows 95 clients log out of Windows 95, their session to the
PATHWORKS Server is not disconnecting.

They must do a NET SESSION \\pcnode /DELETE to make them go away.

The Win3.1 and WFW clients act normally.

The only transport they use is TCP/IP.

The clients are native Win95, just using the PATHWORKS licensing software.

Has anyone seen this before?

-Linda
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625.1clarificationTOHOPE::WSA028::DOWNING_LThu Mar 06 1997 16:4716
My customer and I had some difficulty communicating the first time...

Here is the real issue:

He has Borland Dbase v5.0 for DOS on a share on his PATHWORKS Server.

He maps a drive to the share, runs the application, and exits from the
application.

From the client's point of view, they are back to their DOS prompt.

ADMIN/PATHWORKS sees that the Windows 95 client still has files open
in that application.  The Windows 3.1 clients exited completely.

anyone seen this?
625.2JAMIN::WASSERJohn A. WasserThu Mar 06 1997 16:576
> ADMIN/PATHWORKS sees that the Windows 95 client still has files open
> in that application.

	A VMS "SHOW DEVICE device /FILES" on the device that contains
	the share should show which files are open.  That might give
	a hint as to why they are open.
625.3SPELNK::curlessThu Mar 06 1997 19:557
Quite probably they are still open as per the "File Open Cache", to increase
the performance of the file share....

So, it's very likely they will close within some documented timeframe.

Jeff
625.4SUFRNG::WSA028::DOWNING_LMon Mar 10 1997 10:584
its just strange that Windows 3.1 client close immediately, and Windows95
clients do not close their files upon exiting the application.

Does 'File Open Cache' act differently based on what type of client is connected?
625.5TOHOPE::WSA028::DOWNING_LMon Mar 10 1997 11:122
note 4192.2 in pwv50ift indicates that this is a problem fixed in 5.0e eco1
of the Server.
625.6SPELNK::curlessMon Mar 10 1997 16:547
Well, there you go... fixed.

Depending on the redirector, Win3.1 would probably work differently than
Win95 due to SMB versions.

Jeff
625.7can't tell what the truth isTOHOPE::WSA028::DOWNING_LThu Mar 13 1997 11:522
Well, it looks like the 5.0e eco1 release notes do not describe the fix.
So, I'm back to where I started.
625.8SPELNK::curlessThu Mar 13 1997 21:065
It's not in the release notes, but that does not mean it wasn't fixed, 
can anyone VERIFY if it does work with v5.0e?

Jeff
625.9maybe it has to do with opportunistic lockingTOHOPE::WSA028::DOWNING_LFri Mar 14 1997 17:119
The reference to different SMB types led me to find a STARS/TIMA article
which discussed Opportunistic locking (OpLocks) and how it effects Windows 95
clients running DOS apps on a PATHWORKS V5 server.

The answer is he needs to use a Windows95 version of his application.

Thanks for all your help,
-Linda