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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

311.0. "Welfare Reform and Child Support" by QUOKKA::25752::VLS_TEMP1 () Wed Jun 15 1994 17:54

    I heard Clinton's speech on welfare reform and couldn't help but become
    concerned when he mentioned "the toughest child support enforcement
    provisions in history". Anyone have any details to share?
    					Dan D
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311.1QUOKKA::29067::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackThu Jun 16 1994 12:4521
    
    Only what I've heard on TV.  Which is probably the same thing you've
    heard.  Looks like one more turn of the screws on the NCP.  What they
    need is a policy that if the NCP can support them without their being
    on welfare, then the children should go to the NCP.  But then that
    would violate the Feminist Agenda. 

    Maybe when it gets bad enough that men will finally band together
    in a political force, we can get something changed.  Until then, we
    just have to accept what they want to ladle out to us.

    Sorry, but I'm feeling a bit sarcastic today.  I spent an hour on the
    phone last night with a guy who has his kids while the CP is in the
    nut house being treated for drug abuse among other things.  The whole
    program form the Social worker to the judge seems to be geared to
    her getting the kids back as soon as she is out, and this isn't the
    first time she's been in.  Amazing!.  All I could tell him was to do 
    the best job he could while he had the chance.  Build up a history of 
    taking care of the kids, and document, document, document.

    fred();
311.2One small blow for....QUOKKA::29067::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackFri Jun 17 1994 16:0733
    Yesterday evening, I got a chance to strike a blow for NCP.  Governor
    Roy Romer (D, Colorado) was on a local talk show sucking up some
    free campaign time, and I was able to get through.  

    After making an enemy of him to start with by commenting on the expense
    to taxpayers of his usage of a cell-phone to call in to the show,  I
    suggested that he may want to consider giving the children to  an NCP
    who was employed and wanted the children rather than put them on
    welfare and try to soak the NCP for "child support".   He started
    to give me the tap-dance about all fathers supporting children,
    and the children being in the place that was best for the child.
    I responded that, yes the law said that the children were supposed
    to go where it was best for the child but it was a problem getting
    the judges that he and his predecessor had appointed to take note
    of that law.  He responded that he didn't think that was happening,
    and I responded that he should go see for himself what is going
    on--then they hung up on me :^}.  It's amazing how hostile these
    politicians get when you bring up support/custody.  They know
    the Femi's are out there watching their every move.  Until men
    get organized, they have nothing to fear from us as a group.

    Well, I think maybe the next time he picks up that cell-phone,
    or the next time he is looking at appointing a judge, he'll
    be reminded that there is at least one person out here taking
    note ;^).  Also I will not only be voting against him in the
    next election, I will be donating money (maybe not a lot, but some)
    to whomever is running against him.  If time allows, I will
    be working for whomever is running against him.

    'Til next time,
    fred();

    fred();
311.3QUOKKA::29067::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackSat Jun 18 1994 20:086
    Here's what you do the next time someone throws "It's a man's obligation 
    to support his children" in your face.  Ask "What about the _mother's_
    obligation to support her children instead of sitting on her *bleep*
    and collecting 'AFDC'"?

    fred();
311.4QUOKKA::3737::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaMon Jun 20 1994 10:453
    Fred!!! God Bless You!! Your one in a million!! That was great!
    
    
311.5potential hope!QUOKKA::25752::VLS_TEMP1Wed Jun 22 1994 12:4418
    It seems there's been a lot more organizing going on then I thought.
    The friday before Father's Day there was a proposal made to a group
    of senators by a Fathers Coalition wich include reps of many fathers
    groups and some independent experts. They've evaluated all the
    statistical data used to formulate the present Child support mandate
    and exposed a lot of the inaccuracies about the data, especially the
    "child poverty" issues. They were saying lets attack poverty, not
    NCP's. They pointed out that most fathers would rather care for their
    children directly instead of paying to have them cared for. They also
    pointed out that in out-of-wedlock cases with complete data the fathers
    wanted the kids between 30-50% of the time and divorced fathers between
    50-80% of the time. They've also exposed the feminist attempts to
    railroad draconian proposals and seem to have convinced congress to "do
    it right" in regard to Support and Custody issues and will be part of a
    commission to do more comprehensive study and come up with a more
    balanced policy. Hopefully good news...
    				Dan D
      
311.6QUOKKA::29067::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackWed Jun 22 1994 19:284
    re .5
    
    Thanks.  Probably not something we'd normally see on the evening news.
    fred();