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Title:Discussions of topics pertaining to men
Notice:Please read all replies to note 1
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELE
Created:Thu Jan 21 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:268
Total number of notes:12755

22.0. "a different look at new age man" by HANNAH::OSMAN (see HANNAH::IGLOO$:[OSMAN]ERIC.VT240) Thu Jan 28 1993 19:41

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22.1different drummersTORREY::BROWN_ROThe nightmare has endedThu Jan 28 1993 22:2813
    >I was amazed at the lack of rhythm and laughed, even though I knew I
    >supported a stereotype.  But it's true: white men can't drum.  
    
    Uh, SOME white men can't drum.
    
    Some are incredible drummers.
    
    Saw a film of Gene Krupa last week, the man was unbelievable.....
                                                                     
    Aside from that, a good critique.
                             
    
    
22.2WAHOO::LEVESQUESeize the Mo'Fri Jan 29 1993 10:503
 Leave it to Fernie to belabor the obvious.

 Thanks for putting this in here, Eric. Well worth the read.
22.3TORREY::BROWN_ROThe nightmare has endedFri Jan 29 1993 14:393
    Leave it to Levesque the gratuitous insult.
    
    
22.4to badCSC32::W_LINVILLEsinning ain't no fun since she bought a gunMon Feb 01 1993 02:3611
    As a person who has both native American and European blood I must point
    out that no one culture has a lock on feathers, drums, skins and a lack
    of rythum. I am deeply disappointed that some men here will do and say
    anything to restrict men from reveling in the idea of just being a man.
    They seem to be so tied to women's definition of men that they now
    cannot think of enjoying the world of men. White men may be stumbling
    trying to discover their manhood but at least they are trying, it is
    not tied to a woman's approval or definition. 
    
    			N.O.M. now
    			N.O.M. for tomorrow 
22.5SOLANA::BROWN_ROThe nightmare has endedMon Feb 01 1993 21:129
    I agree with you, Wayne. I think romanticizing Native American ways
    isn't the answer, but what is important is that some men are taking 
    a look at how they want to define themselves. The fact that so many
    are interested in doing so shows that the need exists. Some men are
    interested in re-definition, some are not, and it would be nice to
    see tolerance in this community for all points of view. The basis of
    this movement is men defining themselves.