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Title:Discussions of topics pertaining to men
Notice:Please read all replies to note 1
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELE
Created:Thu Jan 21 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:268
Total number of notes:12755

265.0. "A Positionn of Power?" by CSC32::HADDOCK (Pas Fini!) Wed Apr 30 1997 16:30

    
    There have been a few blurbs on the news lately about Mass. Congressman
    Joe Kennedy and his problems with his wife.  She has been making the
    rounds of talk shows fairly well trashing him.  He has publicly
    "admitted his guilt".

    One of the things I find curious is that there seems to be some
    indication that Congressman Kennedy (soon to be Gouvernitorial(sp)
    candidate Kennedy) had an "affair" with a 14 year old babysitter.
    Now in the light of Bill Clinton's declaration a few days back about
    coming down on older men having sex with teenage girls, and in
    light of the Army Judge's ruling that the Sergeant who is up on
    rape charges didn't have to use force to be convicted of rape because
    he was "in a position of power".  In light of this, WHY isn't this
    Liberal Democrat Kennedy not in jail and up on at least statutory
    rape charges?

    fred();
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265.1SUBSYS::WOJDAKWed Apr 30 1997 16:4117
    Fred,
        You seem to be confusing two different Kennedys.Joe Kennedy
        has been granted an annulment from his first wife,which she
        is trying to get overturned by the Vatican.
        
        Mike Kennedy, brother of Joe, is the one that was alleged to
        have sexual relations with the 14 year old.This case will
        probably go nowhere as the victim and her family do not want to
        pursue the matter.Without them, the District Attorney does not
        have a case.Mike was the campaign chairman for Ted's successful
        Senate run last year.
    
                           Rich
    
    
    
                                            Rich
265.2A slice in time, saves nine.:)ASGMKA::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaWed Apr 30 1997 17:004
    Nu-tur them all! Joe, Ted, Mike, couz William Smith. Thus we'll not have
    to lock up the women and children when they are in town.:)
    
    
265.3If there were fewer Kennedies this might be easiersmurf.zk3.dec.com::PBECKPaul BeckThu May 01 1997 12:5619
    I'm no fan of the Kennedies, but .0 is 'way off the mark, factually.
    
    Joe Kennedy's EX-wife was been making the rounds, drumming up
    business for her new book, "Shattered Faith", about the practice of
    annulment in the Catholic church (she's offended that the church
    would go along with Joe and say their marriage never really was
    valid, despite their n children ... can't say as I blame her).
    
    I don't think Joe's present wife (who he married after getting the
    annulment) has been making any noise either way, but I haven't been
    following it all that closely.
    
    As .1 states, it's Mike Kennedy who's said to have had an affair
    with his babysitter (I think he was caught in the act, so to speak,
    though she's now of legal age, so the allegations of his having had
    sex with her while she was underage are unproven).
    
    None of them are particularly worth defending, and I'm sure not
    doing that ... just trying to make a weak defense of accuracy.
265.4BRLLNT::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu May 01 1997 13:304
    Hope he goes to jail! Seems that the Kennedy men have been cursed with
    the big and little head swap. But, blessed with their ability to get
    away with 'murder'. Driving women off bridges is also a 'voilent crime
    against women.'  
265.5BRLLNT::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu May 01 1997 13:321
    Exposing your genitalia is also a crime against 'minors'. 
265.6CSC32::HADDOCKPas Fini!Thu May 01 1997 14:048
    
    re .3
    
    The news report was rather confusing.  It looked like the same man.
    Which one is it that is running for Governor?  Especially now that
    Clinton is trying to pull a "John Love" on Weld.
    
    fred();
265.7Joe dropping in recent pollsSUBSYS::WOJDAKThu May 01 1997 16:496
    Joe is contemplating a run for Gov. Before all this news broke 
    (annulment and his brother's sex scandal) he had a fairly 
    good lead in the polls against the other contenders, but that
    has dropped to the point where the race is a dead heat.
    
    
265.8ACISS1::ROCUSHThu May 01 1997 20:4013
    You have to remember thqt any liberal, and the Kennedy's certainly
    qualify, will be given a lot more slack than any conservative or
    middle-of-the-roader.  The media will go to every length not to make
    one of their darlings look bad.  
    
    lOOK HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR THE MEDIA TO EVEN START TO LOOK INTO THE
    UNETHICAL AND PROBABLY ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES OF the Clintons.  Even when
    they do make a charge, they usually soften with some remark.  Also they
    will try to amke sure a Republican gets mentioned as well.
    
    Don't look for anything big to come out of this. The press will make
    this disappear just like Clinton's scandals.
    
265.9HAMMAR::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu May 01 1997 21:0014
    If the media was to take an interest in this as they do with the rest
    of us. There would be no issue about it. Kids would be with DOR, and
    Mike would be in jail. Peroid. 
    
    If the system were to try Ted as they did O.J. No question, Ted would
    be in jail, or snorting gas if he was not bless with the money. 
    
    If the kids who hit and crippled another family were tried as the rest
    of us, jail, life perhaps. 
    
    Ted and William Smiths case tried like Mike Tysons. Outcome would be
    the same, jail for all of em.
    
    
265.10ACISS1::ROCUSHFri May 02 1997 14:5410
    .9
    
    Remember there are two sets of rules.  If you are a liberal you get a
    pass on anything you do, just so long as your heart is in the right
    place.
    
    You need look no further tyhan Clinton.  A Republican is run out of
    office over old charges and that he never pressured anyone and stopped
    when told.  Clinton gets a pass for similar actions.
    
265.11UCXAXP::GRADYSquash that bug! (tm)Fri May 02 1997 17:451
I had no idea O.J. was a liberal.
265.12CSC32::HADDOCKPas Fini!Fri May 02 1997 18:249
    
    There was a lot of "outrage" that O.J. got off.  As compared to 
    Michael Jackson for instance.  Granted they didn't do the same thing,
    but as far as Michael, as far as I am concerned, what he did was in
    the neighborhood of "badness".  I heard the boys family got $25M
    from the Jackson family to hush up.  Michael is back raking in the
    bucks "on tour".

    fred();
265.13BRLLNT::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaFri May 02 1997 18:369
    There was no 8.5 mil suit against Ted for killing Marry-Joe. There was
    no retrial, no million dollar lawyers to defend Ted. Ted walked, Ted
    has great sexual appitie. All those who sail close to Teds shores know,
    and Ted didn't go to jail over it like Mike Tyson. 
    
    Ted, ironicly, gets to sit on the Morality board that over looked the
    appointment of Clarince Thomas. Talk about the fox with the key to the
    hen house....