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Title:Discussions of topics pertaining to men
Notice:Please read all replies to note 1
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELE
Created:Thu Jan 21 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:268
Total number of notes:12755

65.0. "Job Changes" by GLDOA::KATZ (Follow your conscience) Tue May 04 1993 17:27

    Knowing what you know now what profession would you go into
    if you could choose your vocation all over again?
    
    I think I'd be a doctor next time around. Work in a small town,
    get to know the people I care for.
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65.1Great Question!!TRACTR::ELKINSTue May 04 1993 17:548
                  Tough question!!!
    
    For a full time position, I would do something that used my creativity;
        an architect, an interior decorator, a fashion designer.
    
    And part time I would do something around, voice, beauty, expression;
        a model, a singer, a piano player.
    
65.2WAHOO::LEVESQUEa voice in the wildernessTue May 04 1993 17:572
 I'd be a lawyer. You get paid $150/hr to argue over minute points.
Almost like soapbox! :-)
65.3PILOT34315::MWANNEMACHERBeing a Daddy=The best jobTue May 04 1993 18:022
    
    
65.4NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue May 04 1993 18:043
re .3:

So which is it, "Being a Daddy" or -< PILOT >- ?
65.5VAXWRK::STHILAIREa sense of wonderTue May 04 1993 18:064
    I don't know.  I was confused then, and I'm confused now.
    
    Lorna
    
65.6 SPEZKO::TOMGDragon Dictate UserTue May 04 1993 18:239
     Easy, photographer for National Geographic magazine. 
     
     
    Tom
    
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65.734315::MWANNEMACHERBeing a Daddy=The best jobTue May 04 1993 18:357
    
    
    Well I could fly my kids around....:')
    
    
    
    Mike
65.8Easy!MORO::BEELER_JERush Limbaugh for PresidentTue May 04 1993 18:514
    Absolutely no question in my mind as to what  would do .. I would
    teach .. probably 11th and 12th grades.
    
    Bubba
65.9PCCAD::RICHARDJBluegrass,Music Aged to PurfekchunTue May 04 1993 19:297
    I'd be a carpenter, which is what I wanted when  I was choosing between
    trade school and high school, but my parents insisted that I go to regular
    high school, which resulted in that I graduated with nothing. I Wasn't
    college bound and didn't have a skill, so the Marine Corps got me.

    
    Jim
65.10PHOTON::LichtenbergMitch Lichtenberg (RANGER::)Tue May 04 1993 19:539
    
    I think maybe I'd be a teacher.  (high school or college)
    
    I'm hoping to teach when I retire.  My parents were both teachers, 
    and IMHO it's a noble profession.
    
    /Mitch.
    
65.11BUSY::DKATZI unpacked my adjectives...Tue May 04 1993 19:595
    Gonna be a teacher...after August.
    
    Teaching high school English and drama.
    
    Daniel
65.12SOFBAS::LAUKAITISLife is not a dress rehearsal!Tue May 04 1993 20:277
    Planning on becoming an attorney, specializing in internation business.
    
    If I had it to do over again hell would have frozen over before I
    would have become a technical writer! I'd tell you why, but I surely
    would be set hidden.
    
    Dan
65.13Oh, the joys of being young and unattached!CALS::DESELMSTue May 04 1993 20:429
    Starting this fall, I'm going to school full-time so that I can become a
    singer.

    I got my first acceptance last night!!!

    I'll probably end up earning substantially less than I could ever make in
    compooters, but at least I'll be happy!

    - Jim
65.14AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaTue May 04 1993 20:533
    A street car conductor. Standing there with my change thingie, and the
    dho-dha for punching the clients tickets. :) And if I could!! I would
    name my street car to 'Desire'.:) Bad puns
65.15who really knowsCVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistTue May 04 1993 22:5013
    Teach college I think. Perhaps high school. I'll probably do this some
    day.

    Or maybe be a fireman. I almost did this. Took the exam and everything.
    I was about 481 on the list (17,000) took the test. With promotions
    being based on exams I'd probably be a Battalion Chief by now. And 
    close to retiring with 20 years too. 

    Option 3: Naval officer. Always did like those uniforms. :-)

    Too late for me to take options 2 & 3 now. :-(

    			Alfred
65.16ESSB::PHAYDENIt's not how long it takes but how well you do it ...Wed May 05 1993 08:317
     
    A Vet (Horse Doctor)
    
    Got to admit, I prefer my Dogs & Horses company to the company of a lot of
    people I know.
    
    Then again the Photographer for National Geo. job sounds excelent too.
65.17am I alone?CSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtWed May 05 1993 16:2714
I'd probably go for a career a lot like the one I have: mostly using my
ability to think, and spending some time working with people.

That covers a lot of ground.  It might be in any field of science or
engineering or management.  It might be academic, government or private
sector.  It might be more or less teaching, research, development or 
production.  But I don't think I would change the basics of what I do
from day to day.  It just fits my abilities and needs so well.  I get
money, satisfaction, security, fun, human contact, variety ...

There's a lot of other stuff that I think would be interesting, but I am 
pretty sure I would not have the ability to do as good a job at those 
things.  And most of them (artist, therapist, writer, guru ... ) are only 
worth doing if I could do them really well.
65.18WAHOO::LEVESQUEa voice in the wildernessWed May 05 1993 16:372
 I think designing roller coasters like the new one that just opened at Six
Flags would be fun. :-)
65.19NITTY::DIERCKSWe will have Peace! We must!!!!Thu May 06 1993 13:076
    
    
    #1 Choice -- opera singer
    
    #2 Choice -- college professor (I've done this, and hope to do it
                 again)
65.20CALDEC::RAHloitering with intentThu May 06 1993 17:292
    
    new car dealer in El Ley, or surf shop owner in Santa Cruz
65.21i do love Santa CruzVAXWRK::STHILAIREi musta got lostThu May 06 1993 17:417
    re .20, I'd like to own an antique jewelry store in Santa Cruz.
    Just think, we could be neighbors!!
    
    What a thrill it would be, huh?  :-)
    
    Lorna
    
65.22COMET::DYBENGrey area is found by not lookingFri May 07 1993 17:007
    
    
    
     Goodyear blimp pilot.
    
    
    David
65.23SCHOOL::BOBBITTan insurmountable opportunity?Fri May 07 1993 17:465
    
    lighthousekeeper with a home publishing firm for fun.
    
    -Jody
    
65.24Why not?MORO::BEELER_JERush Limbaugh for PresidentFri May 07 1993 23:543
    ..quality control manager in a whore house.
    
    Bubba
65.25Why not indeed!SPEZKO::A_FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideSat May 08 1993 13:183
                               Condom mannequin.
        
        
65.26COMET::DYBENGrey area is found by not lookingSat May 08 1993 14:548
    
    
    -1 -2
    
       :-)
    
    
    David
65.27HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, Alpha P/PEGSun May 09 1993 19:368
    Fighter pilot.
    
    In fact, I had already been accepted at Annalpolis when my eyesight
    tested at 20/25 in one eye.  I was told the Navy required 20/20 or
    better or you need special approval.   Had already aced the written
    test at U Conn, too.  Scored a 95 percentile on it.
    
    Oh well, no jets?  Scratch that.  Off to engineer school.
65.28PCCAD::RICHARDJMy God Is OK, Sorry About YoursTue May 18 1993 15:278
    I should have been a cowboy !

    Really ! 
    
    I watch the rodeo's on TNN every Sunday, and yup, I'm sorry I 
    didn't become a cowboy. I hear they make big bucks too.

    Jim
65.29Hate to disillusion you, but...SMURF::BINDERDeus tuus tibi sed deus meus mihiTue May 18 1993 15:358
    Rodeo cowboys bear little resemblance to range cowboys.  Range work is
    dirty, hard labor with long hours, poor conditions, and low pay.  Many
    range cowboys do rodeo work to supplement their incomes.
    
    And rodeo work is like the acting profession.  Of the thousands of
    rodeo cowboys, only a few make much more than a pittance if you average
    it over a season.  It's a nice addition to the regular pay of a range
    cowboy, but it ain't a living wage.
65.30PCCAD::RICHARDJMy God Is OK, Sorry About YoursTue May 18 1993 19:548
    RE:29
    Well the way you described it makes me more sorry I didn't become a
    cowboy.;)

    I bet 41 year old cowboys are healthier and more manly than 41 year old 
    computer jockeys.

    Jim 
65.31DSSDEV::RUSTTue May 18 1993 20:2720
    Re .30: Depends what you mean by "manly". The cowboys I know tend to
    look old before their time - though some people like that
    wrinkled-leather look (with the hat-brim-white forehead accent). Then
    there are the tobacco-blackened teeth (and sometimes _missing_ teeth,
    and/or missing pieces of gum or jaw), the bowed legs (some having been
    broken a time or two), the gnarled hands (sometimes plus arthritis)
    from years of doing hard labor in sub-freezing cold or scorching sun...
    Heck, to make it to the 40s as a working cowboy/rancher demands
    someone who was pretty resilient to start with!
    
    'course, many of the ranch-type folk I know are wonderful people, and
    some of 'em do live very long lives indeed (though my theory is that
    the weak have been weeded out early for generations, so they've self-
    selected for toughness). But there are plenty who rack themselves up,
    have troubled family lives, abuse alcohol and tobacco (and anything
    else that comes along)... If you want to fantasize about being a
    cowboy, fine - heck, I did, for years ;-) - but don't count on it being
    that way for real.
    
    -b
65.32PCCAD::RICHARDJMy God Is OK, Sorry About YoursWed May 19 1993 14:456
    You know I,m not serious I hope ! I romanticize about it and that's
    about it. Maybe I should go on one of those city slicker cattle
    drives? Do they really exist ?


    Jim
65.33VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsWed May 19 1993 15:104
    re .32, you wanna go with Jack Palance?  :-)
    
    Lorna
    
65.34DSSDEV::RUSTWed May 19 1993 15:2516
    Re .32: There are quite a few "dude" arrangements, from fairly
    arduous working-ranch setups to luxurious, make-believe-cowboy places.
    I've seen some advertised in travel magazines and such. [I've never
    gone on one of these myself, though some do look like fun, especially
    the "follow the wagon-train route" kinds; maybe someday.] I don't
    remember off-hand whether I've seen any explicitly involving cattle
    drives, although I expect there are some. 
    
    And then there's the "budget" technique, in which you take a month of
    vacation time and travel out to some ranching community and offer to
    hire on as a room-and-board, below-minimum-wage laborer, which is the
    version I used (it helped that I'd gone to college with one of the
    rancher's kids). A lifetime of anecdotes, for just a little pain and
    suffering. ;-)
    
    -b
65.35not a good way to get richCSC32::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackWed May 19 1993 15:5316
    I grew up on a farm and ranch.  I've been thrown off of more horses
    than most people these days have been on.   As such I have no love
    for horses.  There's just something about a mode of transportation
    that has it's own not-very-intelligent guidance system, but I would 
    go back to the lifestyle of the family farm and ranch if I could figure 
    out how to make a living at it  and could come up the the half-million 
    dollars it would take to get started.  

    There's an old joke about three guys that won the lottery.  They were
    asked what each of them would do with the money.  The preacher said
    he would go on mission, the accountant said he'd invest the money,
    and the farmer said he guessed he'd just go on farming until it was
    all gone.

    fred();
65.36PCCAD::RICHARDJMy God Is OK, Sorry About YoursWed May 19 1993 16:3210
    I'm going horseback riding in a few weeks after the black fly season is
    over. There's a place near my house. The last time I rode on a horse
    was when I was sixteen years old. All I remember is that the darn thing
    only wanted to follow the other horses, and my nutz ached for a week
    after. I know why those rodeo cowboys talk through their noses.;)

    

    Jim
65.37AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaWed May 19 1993 16:575
65.38GRANMA::MWANNEMACHERBeing a Daddy=The best jobWed May 19 1993 19:4310
    
    Jim,
    
    
    Let go of the horses neck, your goulies won't be sore then. :')
    
    
    
    
    Mike