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Title:Discussions of topics pertaining to men
Notice:Please read all replies to note 1
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELE
Created:Thu Jan 21 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:268
Total number of notes:12755

30.0. "Valentine's Day" by MORO::BEELER_JE (God save us from Slick Willie) Tue Feb 09 1993 15:53

    "Valentine's Day".

    I don't know the history behind "Valentines Day" but does it seem
    somewhat one-sided in that the men are always expected (tradition?)
    to do something special for the ladies?  Why not the other way around?

    Will you be doing something special for your girlfriend or wife (or
    both, if they're not the same person)?  What did you do (be careful,
    this is a family conference)?

    Now .. tell the truth .. will you be doing it because it was EXPECTED
    of you and you didn't want to catch hell .. or because you really wanted
    to do something special?


    Bubba
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30.1AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaTue Feb 09 1993 16:0911
    
    Well I was gonna go visit the South side of Chicago. See Capone's ol
    stomping grounds.::))

    Play some tunes with my violin case. 8)
    
    Yha must remember this
    a kis is just a kiss
    
    A sigh is just a sigh....:)
30.2not always one sidedCVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistTue Feb 09 1993 16:3116
>    Now .. tell the truth .. will you be doing it because it was EXPECTED
>    of you and you didn't want to catch hell .. or because you really wanted
>    to do something special?

    A little of both. Our wedding anniversary is two days before
    Valentine's day. On out honeymoon I didn't have a card for my wife.
    She had one for me as was mildly upset that I hadn't prepared better.
    I've been better prepared since then.

    I like to do special things for my wife but in a 7 week period there
    is Christmas, wife's birthday, wedding anniversary, and Valentine's
    day. By the latter I'm out of ideas. And money. So usually she gets
    a card. Which is what she gives me so I guess it's ok. It's always
    been an even thing with us. She treats me very well.

    		Alfred
30.3DSSDEV::RUSTTue Feb 09 1993 16:3921
    St. Valentine's Day is yet another example of a Christian tag being
    placed on a previously existing celebration. (Since Valentine was
    martyred by one of the usual unpleasant methods, I've always thought
    him a singularly inappropriate saint to be associated with love and
    friendship. "Happy Valentine's Day! <crunch>)
    
    I think the original (uh, well, the "original" might be hard to
    determine - make that "prior") holiday was a Roman one (they had so
    many fine party ideas) called Lupercalia, something to do with birds
    mating. 
    
    The Valentine's Day card business looks like a Victorian thing (I
    wonder if it's coincidence that the rise of industrialization seemed to
    be related to the rise in products for which a market had to be
    created - like greeting cards?). I'd guess men were supposed to do the
    giving because most women didn't have their own money (and/or were the
    ones to be "courted"); the return of a shy glance or a smile was
    supposed to be the man's reward for the flowers or whatever. (I think
    the ante has been upped in recent years...)
    
    -b
30.4Cupid's DeadCOMET::BRONCO::TANGUYArmchair Rocket ScientistTue Feb 09 1993 16:508
    So, who's this Cupid guy?  Where did that "tradition"/"myth"
    come from?
    
    I'm hoping to do something special, too.  I just don't know what it
    will be, yet.  The Nuggets are playing the Sixers on Friday.  How do
    you think tickets to the game will go over???
    
    Jon
30.5SMURF::BINDERQui scire uelit ipse debet discereTue Feb 09 1993 17:2310
    Cupid, the son of Venus, was the Roman god of love.  The Romans
    considered him to be fully adult and eminently virile.  His Greek
    counterpart was Eros, from which we get words like "erotic."
    
    His transmogrification into a baby is of uncertain origin, but Venus
    was often pictured with cherubs around her, attending to her needs, and
    I suspect that Cupid sort of got mushed in with the cherubs as part of
    the standard Christian misinterpretation of others' mythologies.
    
    -dick
30.6Ancient Valentine's Day CustomsPKDEV1::DUPREThe Sheriff of Noting-hamWed Feb 10 1993 12:306
	On Valentine's Day, so I'm told, a cannibal sends his girlfriend
	a box of Farmer's Fannies.

					Jim

30.7it's a matter of tasteTOLKIN::DUMARTThu Feb 11 1993 12:311
    ......Bruin's tickets would work for me!
30.8SALEM::KUPTONRed Sox - More My AgeThu Feb 11 1993 13:352
    This year I got a pair of silk boxers with hearts.......I'm still
    trying to figure who got the present.....
30.9Ok, Ok, Ok, OkGYMAC::PNEALThu Feb 11 1993 13:436
 Ok, Ken. We won't keep you in suspense. IT WAS US !.

Yep, we clubbed together, got Lorna to buy the boxers, and then posted them
to you anonymously. We just thought that a 6'2" nightmare of man might look
good in a pair of silk boxers with hearts. Kinda cute, huh ?

30.10VAXWRK::STHILAIREi'm the bad guy?Thu Feb 11 1993 14:316
    re .9, that's not fair!!  You promised you'd never tell!!  :-)
    
    BTW, Ken, how do you like'em?
    
    Lorna
    
30.11ASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaThu Feb 11 1993 20:449
    Now Bubba, Valentine's Day is not just for women.  Men get 
    more ads directed towards them cause they forget, aren't
    the sensitive types, or don't like to shop.  Women just 
    give naturally.  ;^)
    
    How do guys like silk shorts with hearts for Valentines
    Day?
    
    Joanne
30.12In JapanJIT981::NAKANORave on your body,babe !Thu Feb 11 1993 21:2317
	Hi, my name is Kiyohiko,from Japan. It's 1st time to reply this conf.

	However most of Japanes is not Cristian,St. valentine's day is one of
	 important day in Japan. (as christmas)
	
	Most girls and women give presents for her friends,husband,and 
	companies. Most presents are solid chocolates.
	Why chocolates ?   Major confectionaries used to advertise for their 
	chocolates.  Then it became to customs.

	After one month, March 14th, this day is called "White days".
	The Boys and men got presents give confectinaries to girs and women
	gave presents. ( the reason is advertisement of  major confectionaries.
	But, it is not certain) 

			
                                                Kiyohiko Nakano (DEC Japan)
30.13you kidding?COMET::BRONCO::TANGUYArmchair Rocket ScientistThu Feb 11 1993 21:505
    > How do guys like silk shorts with hearts for Valentines
    > Day?
    
    Love 'em!!!
    
30.14ASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaThu Feb 11 1993 22:476
    -1
    
    No, wasn't kidding.  Understand silk shorts are the rage, just
    wondered if hearts made a difference.
    
    Joanne
30.15Go for it ..MORO::BEELER_JEGod save us from Slick WillieThu Feb 11 1993 22:549
.11> How do guys like silk shorts with hearts for Valentines Day?

		Jerry Beeler
		7909 Silver Birch
		Bakersfield, CA 93313

After I get 'em .. I'll let ya' know.

Bubba
30.16ASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaThu Feb 11 1993 23:086
    What size Jerry?  Can I wait til after V'day as they should
    be on sale then?
    
    :^)
    
    
30.17STAR::ABBASIi think iam psychicFri Feb 12 1993 01:036
    real myn dont wear silk shorts.
    
    hope this helps.
    
    \bye
    \nasser
30.18COMET::BRONCO::TANGUYArmchair Rocket ScientistFri Feb 12 1993 01:407
>    real myn dont wear silk shorts.
>    
>    hope this helps.

	No, as a matter of fact, that doesn't help at all.

	Try it sometime!
30.19STAR::ABBASIi think iam psychicFri Feb 12 1993 02:0520
    >	Try it sometime!

    OMI'GOD !

    i'll be caught dead in the north pole before someone sees me in a
    silk shorts !

    what would the neighbors say !  

    plus if a woman sees a man wearing a silk short she'll starting
    laughing at him and looking funny at him, and the poor dude will get 
    demoralized.

    no, the real ,really real , men dont do stuff like that, no way.

    hope this helps.

    \bye
    \nasser
30.20COMET::BRONCO::TANGUYArmchair Rocket ScientistFri Feb 12 1993 02:123
    Hey, \nasser, a lot of women I know like men with earrings, too!!
    
    Jon
30.21STAR::ABBASIi think iam psychicFri Feb 12 1993 02:2922
    >Hey, \nasser, a lot of women I know like men with earrings, too!!

    OMI'GOD !!

    i'll be caught dead in the Amazon before i have an ear ring !!

    i'll be really airy (pardon the puns) if i were you, these women will 
    ask you  to have an ear ring 'cause they like it, then when they are 
    done with  you and used you and had their fun, they'll leave you alone 
    by your self,  and you are stuck with your ear but with a hole in it too.

    no, this is not for me, man , i think if a woman comes and tells me
    she is really interested in me but i need to have an ear ring or else 
    she would leave , then i have to made a decision.

    well, hope this helps.

    \bye
    \nasser



30.22VAXWRK::STHILAIREi'm the bad guy?Fri Feb 12 1993 12:377
    Oh, Nasser, you've got to get with the times!  I'm sure you'd look
    adorable in earrings and silk boxer shorts.
    
    hope this helps.
    
    Lorna
    
30.23Slippery SuckersSALEM::KUPTONRed Sox - More My AgeFri Feb 12 1993 17:388
    	I love 'em........I just have a hard time keepin 'em on..8^)
    
    	I guess they were a combo Valentine's (14th) and Birthday (15th)
    present. I decided to start getting younger at 40 so Monday I'll be 37.
    
    Thanks for shorts 8^)
    
    Ken
30.24We count the same!MIMS::STEFFENSEN_KHead for the hillsFri Feb 12 1993 19:4410
    
    
    Ah, yet another that counts the years the same way I do! :-)
    This year I'll be 34!  Not much longer till I'll be twenty-something
    again -- YEAH!!! :-)
    
    Happy Birthday!!!!
    
    Another Ken
    
30.25Go for itMORO::BEELER_JEGod save us from Slick WillieFri Feb 12 1993 19:515
    ...here's the deal .. if someone from WIMMINNOTES sends me the silk
    shorts with hearts on 'em .. I'll model 'em at the next WIMMINNOTES
    party.
    
    Bubba
30.26ASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaFri Feb 12 1993 19:519
    ken, there wouldn't be any fun if they stayed on  :^)  hear that
    guys  (especially you \nasser).
    
    as far as earrings go, well, guess it depends on the man and the
    earring.
    
    ken, happy v-day and birthday!
    
    Joanne
30.27Eat your heart out you myn wimpsMORO::BEELER_JEGod save us from Slick WillieFri Feb 12 1993 19:525
    ... re... .25
    
    I must warn you wimmins that my secretary says I have GREAT legs.
    
    Bubba
30.28ASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaFri Feb 12 1993 19:548
    Bubba,
    
    never mind =wn= party.  a private showing (understand you do these)
    is in order.  picture will do for now.  :^)  just be home tomorrow!
    
    Happy V-day to you!!!
    
    Joanne 
30.29What!!MORO::BEELER_JEGod save us from Slick WillieFri Feb 12 1993 20:1315
.28> never mind =wn= party.  a private showing (understand you do these)

What?  Have we no decency?  What ever happened to confidentiality?  What
ever happened to privacy?

Just how in the Hell do you "understand you do these"?!!
(Please send mail - let us not discuss sensitive matters in VAXNotes).

>is in order.  picture will do for now.  :^)  just be home tomorrow!

Please!  I do have certain moral standards!  I'm OUTRAYGED that you
should want a picture of me nekid.  OUTRAYGED.

:-)
Bubba
30.30FMNIST::olsonDoug Olson, ISVG West, Mtn View CAFri Feb 12 1993 20:306
hmmm, I've been noting in womannotes longer than I have in mennotes.
but if I sent you silk boxers to have you model them at the next =wn=
party, I'd probably be unceremoniously drummed outta there as the
newest Person of ill repute ;-).

DougO
30.32He got someASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaMon Feb 15 1993 12:417
    Well Bubba, whata think?  Personal and public showings are now
    in order.  Of course I want a picture.  
    
    Guys, the shorts were in taste.  Sort of modest for Bubba, I would
    imagine.
    
    Joanne
30.31somethings are better left unseenCVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistMon Feb 15 1993 13:4917
>    ...here's the deal .. if someone from WIMMINNOTES sends me the silk
>    shorts with hearts on 'em .. I'll model 'em at the next WIMMINNOTES
>    party.

    Thankfully I have a prior commitment that day. Or I will once a date
    is sent. :-) 

>    I must warn you wimmins that my secretary says I have GREAT legs.

    We're going to take the word of a woman on your payroll? I think not.
    :-)

    BTW, I'm told (by my unbiased wife) that I have GREAT legs. Perhaps
    we need a great legs contest at the next MENNOTES party? Maybe not.
    It wouldn't do to have women folk swooning all over the place. :-)

    		Alfred
30.33Well..she done gone and done it ...MORO::BEELER_JEGod save us from Slick WillieMon Feb 15 1993 14:5419
.25> ...here's the deal .. if someone from WIMMINNOTES sends me the silk
.25> shorts with hearts on 'em .. I'll model 'em at the next WIMMINNOTES
.25> party.

Well .. in keeping with the fact that I am a man of honesty and integrity
I will keep my promise.

Bubba has indeed received, by Federal Express, a very nice pair of silk
boxer shorts, with hearts on 'em, from a female_lady_wimmins of WIMMINNOTES
fame.  Not only that, but they were wrapped in Hallmark paper with a nice
touchie-feelie-mushie type card.

My social schedule demands that I do only one showing.  It may be either
a private showing or I will model them at the next WIMMINNOTES party.  You
need only to let me know.

With dignity, humility, and, thanks I remain your faithful and loyal servant,

Bubba
30.34VAXWRK::STHILAIREi'm the bad guy?Mon Feb 15 1993 14:595
    re .33, oh, don't have a private showing!  I'm sure everyone will want
    to see!   :-)
    
    Lorna
    
30.35ASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaMon Feb 15 1993 15:275
    Lorna,
    
    Don't worry.  We'll have a multi-conference showing.  :^)
    
    Joanne
30.36CSC32::M_EVANShate is STILL not a family valueMon Feb 15 1993 15:431
    Show who is taking pictures for us non-east-coast-western curious?
30.37ASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaMon Feb 15 1993 15:455
    Meg,
    
    I'm getting a private show so I'll make sure you get a pic.
    
    Joanne
30.38:-(MORO::BEELER_JEGod save us from Slick WillieMon Feb 15 1993 15:583
    When oh when are they going to like me for my mind and not my body ...?
    
    Bubba
30.39speaking for myself only! :-)VAXWRK::STHILAIREi would let it goMon Feb 15 1993 16:244
    re .38, when your mind moves a little further to the left... :-) ha-ha
    
    Lorna
    
30.40CSC32::M_EVANShate is STILL not a family valueMon Feb 15 1993 19:097
    But Bubbah,
    
    I do like you for your mind!    ;-)
    
    Also your fine taste in brewskis
    
    Meg
30.41ASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaMon Feb 15 1993 19:373
    .39
    
    :^))))))
30.42NOVA::FISHERDEC Rdb/DinosaurTue Feb 16 1993 10:044
    When's the next DVN State of the Company broadcast?  Maybe we can use
    one  of the commercial breaks.
    
    ed
30.43I'll even watchASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaTue Feb 16 1993 13:031
    :^)
30.44.PEKING::SNOOKLThu Mar 18 1993 11:244
    Make sure that I can see it here in the UK. I  am looking forward to
    this!
    
    L.
30.45He might just do it, get the cameras readyASABET::ESOMSCrystal Packing MamaSat Mar 20 1993 01:139
    Looks like the open-minded, non-Liberal Bubba is going to keep
    his promise but with some conditions attached.  :^) and :^( 
    He wants a body guard.
    
    He's thinking of taking a trip to the NE around April 23rd and
    will model the silk, heart decorated shorts for the ladies!!!!
    Bubba in silk shorts and his sweet talk, WOW!!!!  
    
    Joanne
30.46no shame left under the sunTENAYA::RAHRobert Holt @PAGSun Mar 21 1993 03:132
    
    this is too silly for words.
30.47SMURF::BINDERVox turbae uox DeiMon Mar 22 1993 12:011
    Poor Holtski.  Must be terrible to live inside such a philistine mind.