Conference quark::mennotes-v1

    
    
    For some reason I have to think you lead a very long SINGLE life.
    
    	GJD

    Some fellas like the way they walk, the way they swish and sway;
    Some fellas like the way they talk, they dig the things they say.
    
    I don't worry if she's waddles like a duck, talks with a lisp:
    I think I'm in pretty good luck, if the dollar bills are crisp.

    
     YOUR RIGHT,SHE GOT TO BE BE A NOCK OUT.

    .0
    
    this from the person with "knowledge is power" as their personal_name?
    
    *sigh*
    
    -Jody (who's *really* trying not to respond to unintentional
           button-pushing)
    

I just find myself wondering how good Mr. Santana looks to these "girlz".
It seems to me that most of those who insist on beauty queens, aren't 
exactly "hunk" material themselves.

				Steve

>
>I just find myself wondering how good Mr. Santana looks to these "girlz".
>It seems to me that most of those who insist on beauty queens, aren't 
>exactly "hunk" material themselves.
>
>				Steve

	Reminds me of a rock song from the late 70's, the
	chorus of which bemoaned:

	"Pretty girls with gorillas walking down my street..."


	Steve H

>	Reminds me of a rock song from the late 70's, the
>	chorus of which bemoaned:

>	"Pretty girls with gorillas walking down my street..."
    
    Is She Really Going Out With Him?
    by Joe Jackson
    
    Was sure I wouldn't reply to this topic, but the implicit trivia
    question snared me.
    
    I think there's deeper discussion of what men find attractive in women
    elsewhere in this conference.
    
    	Andrew.

    
    
               I bare to differ with you 8.I consider myself good looking. 
    And I Still won,t go out with anything but a nockout.
    
                       Have a Nice Day.

    So you can better impress the knockouts when you write them letters:

                 (1)                   (2) (3)                   (4)    
               I bare to differ with you 8.I consider myself good looking. 
    And I Still won,t go out with anything but a nockout.
    (5)   (6)    (7)                (8)            (9)    

    1) Diction: "beg to differ" not "bare to differ"
    2) Don't use numbers unless they too long to write; use "eight" instead
    3) Put at least one space between the period and the next sentence
    4) Good-looking is hyphenated
    5) Don't start sentences with "and"
    6) Don't capitalize ordinary words in the middle of a sentence
    7) Use an apostrophe (won't) not comma (won,t)
    8) Diction: a human is not an object so use "anyone" instead of "anything"
    9) Knockout is spelled with a "k"

    I apologize if English is your second language.

    Have you never felt attracted to a girl with a big nose, a lop-sided
    smile, or something else short of "perfection"?  Of course you have!
    
    To answer the question; what do I look at first..
    
    First:    30% Eyes,
              20% Hair,

    Then:     30% Personality,
              20% Everything else.
    
    -Nige L

    Mr. Santana,
    
    Don't fret - you don't sound perverted.  You simply sound like a
    shallow, egotistical, dolt.  Just the kind of schoolboy a real WOMAN 
    wouldn't have anything to do with.
    
    Diane

Re: .9

But most men consider themselves good-looking...it's part of being male.

    	A good looking woman is always at an initial advantage...however,
    personality/style/elegance/class will always show the most attractive
    woman & be the winner in the end - unless the man in question is just 
    looking for an ornament to hang on the end of his arm.
    
    Kevin
    	

    I hope you have better luck than I did. In my single days, the best
    looking girls turned out to be - invariably - : shallow, selfish,
    unreliable, unfaithful, irresponsible and living from one day to the
    next without any semblance of career path or life plan. Not to mention
    ignorant as hell about art, world politics, current issues, etc.

	Don't think we can lump all "pretty girls" into a
	group of "inconsiderate, etc." people.

	However, I would encourage the base noter not to
	limit his friendships to the traditionally beautiful
	or "calendar girls."

	As I've gotten older, I've determined that there are other
	traits that make a woman attractive.  To me, the most	
	attractive single attribute is a woman with her brain 
	engaged !  It's pretty easy to spot a woman who'll be
	interesting to know:  her eyes are alive with intelligence.

	Believe me, there's no stronger aphrodisiac than a woman
	who LIVES, and whose mind is quick and engaged.

	Steve H

    
                It is still,imperative to me that along with
    intelligence she has to be good looking.
    
                            Later For Now.

    My definition of "good looking" is very broad.  :^)  :^)
    
    					- Vick

    Generally/physically speaking, of course...
    
    The first thing that I notice are women's breasts...plain and simple as 
    that. This is regardless of whether or not she's a nice person, or
    exceptionally ugly or beautiful...no matter what, it has mostly always
    been the one feature that "sticks out" first with me.
    
    I have met some "knockouts" with gorgeous legs, but it took me three or four
    glances to *really* notice their legs...once I did, I couldn't take my eyes 
    off of them from that moment on. But, for the most part, that one
    "standout feature", generally/physically speaking, for me has always been
    a woman's breasts. There...an honest answer to an honest question, IMHO.
    

    A beautiful girl's face is undoubtedly one of nature's miracles. A face
    such as Andie McDowell's or Christie Brinkley's is so incredibly
    appealing that I would find it distracting to have to look at breasts,
    legs or other parts. I went absolutely nuts over a woman's eyes and
    nothing could stop me. She held me in rapture for a year before I began
    to notice that she enjoyed my attention but did not reciprocate my
    feelings. I think we, men, love more intensely than women, though, even
    in the best of circumstances.

    
    Elbows. 
    
    A well-turned elbow is a sight to behold.
    
    Of course, shoulder blades have a lot to recommend them.
    
    Collar-bones are important, too.
    
    Nostrils, too.
    
    

    
    I'll usually start scanning from the butt down.  A woman with great
    looking legs has me spellbound.  I remember once, seeing this woman
    with sexy well shaped legs, with a slight black tint to her stockings,
    wearing a short black leather skirt, enter the store I was visiting. 
    Man, I could not help myself.  I followed her around the various
    aisles, checking her out!  I was enslaved, and for a moment... lost in
    time.  There are sexy legs, and there are SEXY legs.  This woman had
    SEXY legs!
    
    Of course, I'm speaking of the past... and things at present are
    different!  You do believe me, don't you?
    
    One thing I HATE... is a woman with big feet!
    

    If we are all honest with ourselves, physical attraction has to the 
    first point.Unless we happen to be blind. Women, like men, differ
    greatly from specimen to specimen. I have rarely met a lady who didn't
    have at least one attribute that I like. It may have been her
    appearance or it might have been her intellect. I have found that
    (generally speaking) very attractive people are much more shallow
    and self centered. This is only an observation/generalization, not
    necessarily a fact of life. My wife and I are both very attractive
    very intelligent, very successfull and definitely NOT self centered.
    
   ( Was that a contradiction in statemeents? )  HA HA
    
    Charlie

I went out and bought the CD so I could get these lyrics. If you're interested,
the song appears on J. Geil's "Full House", a recording from a 1972 Detroit
concert -- it's a great CD if you like to rock, including the immortal line
"Take out your false teeth, momma, I wanna suck on your gums." 

I was amazed to learn that this song is co-authored by Smokey Robinson! I 
forget the other author. T_PARMENTER, where are you?
                       

                       First I Look At the Purse

		    Some fellas look at the eyes, 
		    Some fellas look at the nose.
		    Some fellas look at the size, 
		    Some fellas look at the clothes.
		    
		    I don't care if her eyes are red,
		    I don't care if her nose is long.
		    I don't care if she's underfed,
		    I don't care if her clothes are worn.
		    
		    FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE.
		    
		    Some fellas like the smiles they wear,
		    Some fellas like the legs, that's all.
		    Some fellas like the style of their hair,
		    or want the waist to be small.
		     
		    I don't care if their legs are lean,
		    I don't care if their teeth are green.
		    I don't care if their hair is a wig,
		    Why waste time, lookin' at the waistline.
		    
		    FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE.
		    
		    A woman can be, fine as can be,
		    kisses sweet as honey.
		    That don't mean a think to me:
		    you ain't got no money.
		    If the purse is flat, that's where it's at!
		    
		    Some fellas like the way they walk,
		    the way they swish and sway.
		    Some fellas like the way they talk,
		    they dig the things they say.
		    
		    I don't care if she waddles like a duck,
		    talks with a lisp;
		    I still think I'm in good luck,
		    if the dollars bills are crisp.
		    
		    FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE.
		    FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE.
		    ...
		    
		    I don't care, man, you got yourself a rash.
		    All I want is your pretty green cash.
		    Bought me a suit, bought me a car,
		    bought me to look like a Hollywood star.
		    
		    Money! I want money!
		    Never you mind why, babe, I need money!
		    
		    FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE.
		    FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE.
		    FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE.
		    ...

    I am equaly amazed that "Smokey" co-authored that song. Maybe,if you
    would hum a few bars, it would sound more like MOTOWN.
    
    Charlie

    
>    Elbows. 
       
>   A well-turned elbow is a sight to behold.
    
    
    Funny you mention that: A famous Spanish writer (whose name I've
    forgotten!) said: "The beauty of women dies at the elbow"
    
    IMHO the inner side of the upper arm and the area below the armpit
    along the ribcage are more desirable
    
>   Of course, shoulder blades have a lot to recommend them.
    
    I agree, especially if they are invisible. But the back of the neck
    appeals more to my vampire instincts.
    
>   Collar-bones are important, too.
    
    They don't do much for me
        
>   Nostrils, too.
    
    Yes, especially those so slim and narrow that you can see flutter when
    they get excited. 
    
    
    Now I'll add some of my own (drool, drool):
    
    Eyelashes: You can see them undulate when women are in orgasm
    
    A river of golden fleece down the spine and in the buttocks crevice.
    
    Long, slim, well kempt toes
    
    Long, slim, blonde thighs
                                 

    
    
                EASY THERE MATES!Didn't mean to get anybody to exsighted.

    re .20 & .27, and you're the person who thinks men love more intensely
    than women!  Ha-ha!  Are you sure it's love you're thinking about?
    
    Lorna
    

    I meant .26, not .27...
    

    Re .28:
    
    I don't see any inconsistencies! We can love intensely and still have
    an artist's eye for aesthetics. We can be loving and still be sensuous.
    We can be studious and still have some delicious perversions! We
    definitely have an imagination: without it how could we sublimate
    something so animal and banal as intercourse???

    Lora,
    
    No its not love for me. Its pure lust. That all, just wounderful lusty
    thoughts! Cannot help it! Just a guy!:)

    
    does it require sublimation?
    
    I mean, for the purpose of this notesfile, perhaps.  Are love and sex
    so inextricably wrapped up that we can define and delineate the one by
    completely describing attractions necessary for the other?
    
    and intercourse?  banal?  surely you jest.
    but perhaps we differ on this...
    
    -Jody

    
    
    
            Well,if Intercourse was ment to be a animal trade mark,so be
    it.THANK GOD FOR TRADEMARKS.

    Perhaps he meant "venal", but I'm only guessing.  I think human beings
    of both sexes tend to look over other human beings of the opposite or
    prefered sex with a sensuous eye.  I generally don't discuss the results 
    or the criteria in mixed company, certainly not in a company in which my 
    wife is mixing :^).  But I will say that a nice smile will get a woman a 
    long way into my visual appreciation.
    						- Vick
    
    P.S.  This just in from my subconscious:
    
    	2, 4, 6, 8, we don't want to sublimate.

    RE. .32
    
    OK Jody, what is it for you ? I said banal. What do you say ? One of my
    gripes about Notes is that so many people comment on other's notes
    without offering their own ideas, they just jump into the wagon of the
    original writer and use those ideas to criticize, expand, clarify,
    whatever. We need more original thinkers willing to stick their necks
    out. And please don't ask rhetorical questions: offer opinion.

    RE. .34
    
    No, Vick. I meant banal. We may sublimate it a lot but it's still just
    as banal as any other reproduction attempt in myriads of animal species
    in the planet.

    RE: .34
    
    Oh, and, Vick? I have never met "human beings of both sexes" 
    
    You were redundant, Vick...

    
>THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU MEANT! >-
    
    Ah, now who's interpreting????
    
    I don't find sex boring or hackneyed (i.e., banal).  I find it exciting
    and wonderful.  Why bother looking at attractive women if you find 
    sex boring?
    
    Actually, I believe that my usage was correct.  If there was some
    ambiguity, it was clear from the context what was meant (as you so
    aptly pointed out).  That is how things work in language, and why
    computers are so lousy as interpreters.  So, for example, one would
    say "Delegates of both parties met together in the conference hall."
    It's obvious that you are saying that the delegates each were of
    one party, not that they each belonged to both parties.  I hate
    quibbling over language and spelling.  I truly wasn't sure that
    George meant "gnat", as I'm not familiar with all slang put-downs
    and I didn't quite understand how "gnat" should be taken if that's
    what he meant.  The reason I suggested "venal" as opposed to "banal"
    (and I did say I was only guessing) was because you had previously
    shown sufficient interest in sex for me to assume you wouldn't call
    it boring.
    
    					- Vick
    

    RE. .38
    
    Vick, my dictionary says banal means: completely ordinary, trite...
    There's no "boring" connotation, that's your interpretation...
    
    Of course I am interested in the subject, that's why I'm trying to get
    Lorna to speak out instead of using someone else's opinions.
    
    The truth is we embellish an animal act through our imagination the
    same way we add eroticism to mammary glands made for breast feeding (no
    you got me into redundancy!!!)
    
    And, yes, sex can be exciting and wonderful. Sex is more than
    intercourse... A superset if you wish...

    Okay, forget boring.  I'll settle for: 
    
    trite, hackneyed, shopworn, commonplace, threadbare, stale
    
    all synomyms for banal.  Commonplace perhaps, but, for instance,
    I don't think you'd say "Fatal accidents are banal".  And I don't
    think it would make much sense to say "Sex is banal" and "Va va voom!
    Look at that chick will ya!" in the same paragraph.  Of course,
    I just did, but that's different.  :^)
    
    				- Vick

    re .30, I'm sorry I didn't catch your name, I don't find sex or
    intercourse to be either trite or banal or boring.  I haven't done it
    enough in the past year to find it to be banal, but I don't mean to
    whine about my personal problems in mennotes!  :-)  I think that done
    right with an attractive partner it can be quite exciting, or at least
    so I seem to remember.
    
    Basically, I took exception to your comment that men love more deeply
    or whatever than women.  I don't think that's true.  
    
    Lorna
    

    re: .35
    
    sex being banal (boring, repetitive, dull, etc...)?
    
    I think sex should be a wonderful, mind-blowing, awe-inspiring
    recommitment to life that makes your toes curl.  Attraction starts in
    your head, with chemistry, with thinking, with wanting, and
    culminates... elsewhere.  But I'm convinced 99% of it is in your head,
    and that's more than enough to allow creativity to take care of any
    boredom that could occur.  If two partners want to keep it interesting
    for months or years or decades, I'm willing to bet they'll find a way.
    
    And I don't look at sex as a method of procreation, or an awkward
    attempt at continuing the species.  I look at it as a gift two people
    give each other.  Does this sound trite and sappy?  perhaps.  so be it.
    
    -Jody
    

    Re. .41 & .42
    
    Wonderful! Now we are on a roll! I agree with Jody that it can be
    a"gift" of the gods to give each other! And, Lorna, even if done
    "wrong" it can still be exciting if the partner is attractive enough.
    But we do "sublimate" to make it more "special" than it is, of that I
    am sure. Even the process that makes us fall in love is nothing but a
    series of fantasies where we embellish the beloved one beyond reality.
    And it is a wonderful mirage and the process makes us walk on the
    clouds. If we could only delay the thud for fifty some years...
    But then again, another mirage looks at us "across a crowded room"...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    My love for my wife is not a mirage. It is also not fantasy.
    
    
    			herb
    

    Jorge,  (I assume that's your name, I looked it up in VTX ELF (Herb,
    note.)
    
    I know you are talking about romantic love and it's wonders and
    pitfalls, and I agree with you pretty much.  But you've used the
    word "sublimate" several times and I can't figure out your meaning.
    I associate "sublimate" with statements like "The guys all got together
    and played softball to sublimate their sexual energy."  Sublimation is
    the redirection of sexual energy in other activities.  I believe, now
    that I think about it, the "2, 4, 6, 8, we don't want to sublimate"
    chant that surfaced in my mind is from the Chicago Maroon marching
    kazoo band.  It meant that they didn't want to waste their sexual
    energy by sublimating it playing football, but would rather use it
    directly by copulating.  I know I said I hate quibbling about language.
    I guess sometimes I just hate myself.
    
    						- Vick

    
    
           She still got to be butiful or skip it,it just won't happen.
                                  Bye Now.

    Please let me know if I've captured the gist of your philosophy,
    Boucher_ro:
    
        For me to be interested, she has to be extremely attractive.
    
    Does that about cover it? 

    Let's refine it even further:
    
    	For me to be attracted, she has to be attractive.
    
    Good, I think I can buy that.  :^)
    
    					- Vick

    Re. .46
    
    That's a form of impotence, did you know that?

    Vick, (re: .45),
    
    To sublimate is not necessarily "the redirection of sexual energy..."
    You probably refer to "subjugate", which, in your example, would have
    been more appropriate.
    
    To sublimate is, in general, to modify the expression of (e.g., an
    impulse) to make it socially acceptable. It is also to invest "sublime"
    characteristics in an otherwise ignoble pursuit or object.
    
    I put it in quote marks in .43 because I was sort of stretching it but
    what I meant was that we do idealize the beloved, her body parts,
    intercourse, etc. to keep our imagination satisfied that what we are
    doing is "special", the person is "fantastic" and the activity, well,
    sublime. I could extoll the charms of really seedy, slu**y women and
    their insane desires but I'll leave that for another note. 

>It is also to invest "sublime"
 >   characteristics in an otherwise ignoble pursuit or object.
    
    Okay, you win, but that isn't the common usage vis-a-vis sex.
    
    					- Vick

    
    
    >  I just find myself wondering how good Mr. Santana looks to these "girlz".
    >  It seems to me that most of those who insist on beauty queens, aren't 
    >  exactly "hunk" material themselves.

    >				Steve
    
    
        Stevie Stevie Stevie whats the problem guy?
    All I said is she gotta look good, bite my head off if you don't agree.
    As for how I look, I can hold my ground pal. She doesn't have to be a
    beauty queen, but must she be butt ugly. Geez I do have some self
    confidence.
                               Ite

    re .12
    
>    Mr. Santana,
>    
>    Don't fret - you don't sound perverted.  You simply sound like a
>    shallow, egotistical, dolt.  Just the kind of schoolboy a real WOMAN 
>    wouldn't have anything to do with.
    
>    Diane
    
            Sorry babe, got one
            and I bet she's better looking than you.
            Go back to singles and out of MEN'S notes.
    
    

    RE:.52

    >>                   I can hold my ground pal. 

    Mr. Santana,
    	Ya you can hold your own ground alright, you been holding it 
    so long your beginning to look like it (dirt).  Maybe you ought to 
    let it go.

    Joe

    Hey men this is for men. Lay off, I like nice women too I'm just having
    some fun must you take everything to heart. I'm not Mr. Universe or Joe
    Studd I'm just having fun period. Women are all beautiful....(well
    most of them anyway).... So lighten up.
    And for all of you my girlfriend is beautiful so pleeeeaase
    Step off.
                                    Ite

    
    .54

 >>>>    >>                   I can hold my ground pal. 

  >  Mr. Santana,
  >  	Ya you can hold your own ground alright, you been holding it 
  >  so long your beginning to look like it (dirt).  Maybe you ought to 
  >  let it go.

  >  Joe

           Joe what the He*l are you talking about.
      Get your facts straight, lose a few tons then talk to me.
    Just cause you settled at 22 or 19 or whatever doesn't mean we all
    want to. I prefer to wait till the Right one comes along.
    Until then I'll keep on getting girls while you keep eating your 
    Boston Creme doughnuts.
    By the way Joey I do hold my ground in the women arena, probably much
    better than you ever could have, or ever did.


                                    Ite

    
    Personally the first thing I look at is hair color,
    
    			I love redheads...
    
    					Listenup

    Hey Joe those were some pretty heavy punches but don't take them
    personally, you really ain't such a bad guy.
                                          Ite

    
    	He's afraid you might be waiting for him in the parking lot Joe.
    
    
    
    
    
    

    I hear he's going to wait around until I'm gone before he leaves
    
    Joe :^)
    

    RE .53
    
    >>>   Sorry babe, got one.
    
          A.  I'm not your babe.
          B.  She's the one I feel sorry for.
    
    >>>   and I bet she's better looking than you.
    
    	  I can hold my own chum.  But, I wonder about your girl.  Is there
          any substance beneath the beauty if she's dating you?
    
    >>>   Go back to singles and out of MEN'S notes.
    
    	  I'm not single and if you are representative of today's single
          men then I'm very thankful I'm not.
    
    	  Since when are women precluded from voicing their opinion in
          Men's notes?  I suppose you are used to dealing with the type of
          female that you can dictate to, but I'm not one of them so don't 
          waste your time trying.
                                 

    All right, lets knock off the fisticuffs youse guys.  This here's a
    public establishment in which both men and women are encouraged to 
    participate and admonished to be civil and polite.  Please try to
    be so.
    
    				- Vick  (co-mod)
    
    P.S.  I feel like Ted Kennedy lecturing on morality.  :^)

    Yazu Kreesto, Vick, this is the first fun we've had in months. I say
    have at it! When's the last time you heard/read such a display of pure
    maleness (and the pleasantly bristly response)? It's like fresh air.
    
    Hey, I bet your girl wears army boots!

Hoyt, Hoyt, Hoyt.  Dear, oh dear.  You've been around long enough to know 
that men are *not* allowed to be men in MENNOTES!  Shame on you!  Now, 
apoplogise *immediately* to everyone for having the wrong hormones.

    Gosh, gee, and heck: _I'm_ not being a man! The base-noter is! I've
    long since shed all my secondary sexual characteristics in the pursuit
    of adrogeny. Maybe that's why I get a little _thrill_ from this note.
    It's almost as though little stubby course thick hairs are actually
    protruding from my monitor, from the (do I remember the word?) machismo.

OK, I take your point.  Nevertheless, even if you were not a participant you 
at least were condoning this shameless display of male homosocial behaviour, 
so you're an accomplice...  I believe it carries a lesser penalty...   Maybe 
you can plea bargain...

    
    RE .61
    
    
    I don't see why your getting in such a huff, I mean we let you girls
    vote what more do you want? Next you'll be wanting to join the boy
    scouts.
    
    
    

    
     Ed,
      There already in the boy scouts. It's coed now. Don't they have a
    WOMANNOTES ?
    
                                             Dice
    

    RE.53

>>       A.  I'm not your babe.
>>       B.  She's the one I feel sorry for.
   
	Sorry honey she's Veeerrrry happy with the kid. (me)

>>    	  I can hold my own chum.  But, I wonder about your girl.  Is there
>>          any substance beneath the beauty if she's dating you?

     I'm glad to hear it sweetheart, but whats said amongst men is meant to
    be heard by men. We don't need a cry baby telling us to look for the
    deeper beauty, cause we know it's there. What I'm talking about, and
    I think most men agree on this, is what is the initial attraction to a
    female. And believe me my WOMAN is all that and then some, baby!

>>    	  I'm not single and if you are representative of today's single
>>          men then I'm very thankful I'm not.

    So are we, soooo are we.....

>>    	  Since when are women precluded from voicing their opinion in
>>          Men's notes?  I suppose you are used to dealing with the type of
>>          female that you can dictate to, but I'm not one of them so don't 
>>          waste your time trying.

    Hey say what you want, but in this file we are going to be men. MEN!
    We aren't worried about your little feelings being hurt. What we can't
    even have our own notesfile whats next? Want to play NFL football.

             Just cause your husband doesn't put his foot down once in a
    while don't expect us real men not to. We all including women need to
    put a foot down here and there. Noons was dictating anything to you
    but now that you mention it, all you women need a good smack once in a
    while. \
                                         Tie

    
    		What would John Wayne do if some woman started talking
       back? Keep up the good work Ite. 
    
    						Wheres my dinner!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    
    

    
      Woman are somthing else. They always think there getting !$#% end of
    the stick. I have no problem with my wife as long as does what she is
    told.
                                            Take the trash out BABY !
    

<    						Wheres my dinner!!!!!!
    
    I'm about to lose mine.
    
    					- Vick

    Alittle Rodney Dangerfield:
    
    My wife told me to put out the trash, I said, "why? You never put out
    for me?" 

         RD: "You never tell me when you have an orgasm."
    Mrs. RD: "You're never there!"

    Re. .69
    
    I'm not sure if they need a "smack" once in a while. A good spanking
    for sure plus it'd be much more fun!

    
    you and that veep ought to get together and compare notes...

    What's a veep??
    I guess our little Ms. Complain Alot got scared to reply to my last
    message to her. Sorry to see ya leave the MENNOTES. DON"T COME BACK!!
                                          Ite

    Looks like ::SANTANA has a serious attidude problem.
    Unless he's still a high school kid.
    
    Charles

    	He hasn't been out long enough to dry behind the ears yet.
    
    Joe

    Re.676.78   Why don't you, go back to school and learn how to spell. 
    
       Attidude (I don't think so) 
     
             How about
    
       Attitude (It's really not that hard of a word to spell)

    I stand corrected.
    However, Dutch was our main language at school.
    
    Charles

    
    RE.81
    
    	Charles did you have apair of those wooden shoes?
    
    
    
    
    

    Yup.
    And they were *very* comfortable when working in the garden.
    
    Charles

     
     Charles,
       How long does it take widdle those shoe's.

    Charles,
    
     Since your main language was Dutch, You must have grown up in Holland. 
      I've got news for you, This is they United States. So if you don't know
      how to spell english, Go back to your country!!!!  

    ::SSHONG, I *am* in my country.
    
    Charles

    Where is that???

    Charlie whats wrong no problem here just like talking thats all.
            Careful in your reply though or you'll be next....
     
                                         Ite

    re:.85
    
    After reading your note, I only have one small piece of advice.
    Don't pick on anyone else's English.
    
    ed

    re.89
      Who asked you??????? 

      
    Ya who asked you ??
    

    Noone asked him, but he *is* right you know.
    
    Charles

    re.91
      Listen Dyson. It seems to me that they only reason you read
    this notes conference is to start $H!T. Why don't you go back to work
    and leave the rest of these people alone. I'm sure there's other things
     you could be doing with your time. I'll suggest one, How about
    dieting.  
    
                       

    ::SSHONG, who appointed you as the conference bouncer?
    
    Charles

    
     He's not much of a bouncer. He is about 130 lbs and 5'6" tall. He's 
    pretty big with his mouth though.

    Looks like there's more than one with a big mouth.
    
    Charles

    
      I forgot to tell you he has chicken legs. He thinks he's a weight
    lifter.  ha ha ha ha ha 
    

    Note .80, 
    
    The correct interpunction for your sentence written in note .80 should
    be:
    
>    Re.676.78   Why don't you, go back to school and learn how to spell. 
     Re:676.78   Why don't you go back to school and learn how to spell?
    
    Ad (My native language is Dutch, too.)

    That's coming from a guy that weight's as much as me just in the waist. 
     Around the plant we like to think of him as are very own Santa.
    Although he is a little bigger then Santa. 

    re.98
     Who cares. Go carve another pair of shoes, would ya!!!
    

    More corrections on .99:
    
    That's coming from a guy that weight's as much as me just in the waist. 
                             who  weighs
    (I will not comment on the semantical error.)
    
    Around the plant we like to think of him as are very own Santa.
                    ,                           our
    
    Although he is a little bigger then Santa. 
                                   than
    
    With regards,
    
    Ad

    .100
    
    Who cares? I don't, but as you seem so concerned about the use of your
    native language when used by foreigners, I thought I'd do you a favour
    by correcting a few mistakes of your own.
    
    Ad

    Addo,
    You're hurting their ego.
    8-)
    Charles

    Do you seriously think so, Charles? I don't mean to. I am only too
    pleased to help someone with his native language.
    
    Ad
    
    PS: Ach, je weet, ik bedoel het niet zo kwaad. Ik vond het alleen niet
    zo aardig wat hij tegen je zei, maar misschien had hij helemaal niet
    door dat je geen Amerikaan was. Zie je maandag weer voor de lunch.

    Well, some people are very touchy when foreigners start correcting
    errors in their native language.
    
    Charles.
    
    Goed, zie je maandag weer.
    Niet te veel drinken en niet wakker liggen van eikels die hun eigen
    taal niet beheersen.

    Strange how much easier it is to hand out criticism than it is to
    receive it.

    Jamie.

Re: .104

>    pleased to help someone with his native language.
    
But English is not their native language...

American maybe, but not English....the language they speak over the other side
of the Atlantic lost touch with English a long time ago.

>    the language they speak over the other side of the Atlantic lost touch
>    with English a long time ago.
    
    I know that, Jane. But I can't believe it has lost touch as much as
    note .99 demonstrates, surely that can not be true.
    
    Ad

    Wow! It's gone quiet all of a sudden.
    Makes one wonder if some people have gone out to find a dictionary of
    their native language.
    
    Charles

    Stop it, please!  Any more insults or taunts will get returned to
    the authors.
    
    Just for clarification, as it seems there are people who don't
    understand this:
    
    	1.  This conference is for discussions about topics pertaining
    	    to men.  It is not exclusively for men, and all are welcome
    	    to partcipate.  I've elaborated on this more in one of the
    	    replies to note 1, which I recommend people read.
    
    	2.  Digital's network is international.  Though the conference
    	    host system and a majority of its participants are in the US,
    	    that in no way implies that there should be a US focus to
    	    the conference.  Digital employees in all countries are
    	    welcome; the differing experiences and viewpoints may be
    	    enlightening to those who are unfamiliar with countries
    	    other than their own.
    
    	3.  People should have tolerance for those to whom English is not
    	    their native tongue.  Corrections of spellings and grammar
    	    should not take place in this conference, indeed if it should
    	    take place at all.  (Sadly, I observe that the people who seem to
    	    have the most trouble with spelling and grammar are those for
    	    whom English IS their native language...)
    
    			Steve

    Just thought I'd pop in and say "Hi, and hugs."
    
    Cap'n Grammar.

    Yeah, what were discussing in the first place?
    

    If I've understood .0 correctly (ok ok ok) :-) we were talking about
    women's legs, believe it or not.
    
    Ad
    

    Sorry Ite, but I'm still here.  I've just had more important things to
    do then reply to your most recent taunts.
    
    To keep all you "real men" happy I'm going to sign off and go do
    something womanly like polish my fingernails or knit a sweater for my
    guy.  :-)
    
    Vick - you're more convincing than Ted Kennedy!
    
    Dian
    

    I had a bit of a start when I read about RD and Mrs. RD until I
    remembered the Rodney Dangerfield reply.
    
    As for the topic:
    
    I look for insomniac circles under the eyes, a "just what the HELL is
    going on" expression, sloppy clothes, no makeup (exception for
    thoughtlessly smeared mascara), and a general aura of neuroticism (mild
    manic-depression preferred). If she bests me in conversation, cares
    about the arts, and has a gap in her teeth, I'm in love.
    
    It's a sick perversion, but my own,
    Ray

    "Therefore, in his other moods, symbolize whatever grand or gracious
    thing he will by whiteness, no man can deny that in its profoundest
    idealized significance it calls up a peculiar apparition to the soul."
    -- Herman Melville
    
    Blondes look really funny to me unless they're fish-belly pale. I can
    be friends with tanned blondes (and blonds), I can respect them as
    fellow human beings, and review their novels without prejudice, but
    marriage is out of the question.  (Fashion note: To really bring out
    that blinding lack-of-tone, dress in black.)
    
    Otherwise I think I'm pretty openminded. Not like the women I try to
    ask out, bunch o' unreasonable bigots.... (: >,)
    
    Ray

>If she bests me in conversation, cares
 >   about the arts, and has a gap in her teeth, I'm in love.
    
    Stay away from my wife, you hear me?
    
    						- Vick

    It's OK, she hasn't bested me in conversation yet.
    
    Besides, you should remember from all those Hollywood movies ("The
    Awful Truth", "The Palm Beach Story", "Adam's Rib"), it's OK for your
    wife to have men in love with her as long as you don't let the divorce
    go through. Then you can punch me in the nose right before the final
    clinch.
    
    Ray

    Must be someone else.  My wife's never lost a conversation.  And she's
    always in one.
    					- Vick

    RE.85
    YOU ARE OUT OF LINE IF YOU TAKE TIME TO NOTICE THE NODENAME YOU MIGHT
    FIND A CLUE!
    
    Sorry for yelling but I don't care for the take it home garbage
    attitude.
    
    -j

    RE: .120
    
    This is off the subject, but, is there a directory showing geographic
    location of all nodes ?

    there is such a process in vtx, however, I'm not conversant on how
    to access it.

VTX NODE_LOCATION.

		Steve

    re.114
            Dian's gone yeaaaaaaaa.
    \              Dian I liked talking to you too, sorry you had to leave
    make sure you go do your dishes too, and sweep and mop, and do the
    laundry and do as your told. When your man gets home have dinner ready
    for him with a newspaper so while you do the dishes he won't get bored.
                                       Ite
       
    Girlz I love'em

    Whadda maaaaaaan!!
    
>    laundry and do as your told. When your man gets home have dinner ready
                       you're
    
    Oh well.
    
    Ad

    Re .125

    Wow a *REAL* man. Just what I've been looking for.

    Jamie.

    Ha Dice man,
    
             I know you don't appreciate woman reply in this file, but who
    are you fooling, You have no problem with your wife because you kiss her
    *ss,  Is this truth or dare,   If you ever talked her like that you would
    be out with the trash.  now , now don't let your friends influence you
    we know your pussy whipped.
    
    
    
    
                                  The Queen

    
    	The Queen?
    
    		You know the dice-man is the boss of his home, who else
    would yell at his wife for crying to loud, and not washing his socks
    the right way. And I hear hes been barking the orders out to you
    lately. Now Miss Queenbee any more outburst from you and we'll have ite
    take care of you......
    
    					p.s. go back to sleep 
    
    
    
    
    
    

>  <<< Note 676.126 by HOO78C::ANDERSON "Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum." >>>
>
>    Re .125
>
>    Wow a *REAL* man. Just what I've been looking for.
>
>    Jamie.

You wanna go check who wrote .125 ????

    Mark,
    
    I think it was note .124 that made Jamie all back a young girl at heart
    again.
    
    Ad

    
     To the Queen,
         From reading your message it's obviuos your man does not disapline
    you. I'll tell you one thing. If you were with me you would know what a
    realman was all about. If I told you to jump you would say HOW HI. I 
    wouldn't make you call me sir at first. You speak of dare. I'll show
    you dare BABY !!!!!
    
                                                           DICE..

    reply to message 676.128
    
                     The dice man might have you fooled but when he works
    with me the only out burst he barks out is (can I go for a smoke
    sweetie I'll miss you while I'm gone).  Ms QueenBee do you, now  if
    you don't mind I have my beauty sleep to catch up on....
    
    
    
    The Queen
    

    Ha Dice don't push it you still have four more days with me.  I'm
    speaking of dare.....I'm waiting  BABY!!!!!!!
    
     

>    I think it was note .124 that made Jamie all back a young girl at heart
>    again.

You better hope so Ad, you know that Jamie is at least 5% unpredictable.

M.

    
     To the Queen ?,
           Lets get one thing straight. When I have to leave I say "I'M
    LEAVING" and you say. When are you coming back Sir ? WHEN I DAMM WELL
    FEEL LIKE IT BABY !! AND DUST OFF MY TERMINAL WHEN I'M GONE ! Now lets
    tell the truth here. As far as your beauty sleep when are you going to
    catch it ! 
    
                                                       Dice..
    

    Will you guys *please* cut it out?!?!
    The bloke from the terminal branch just left my office and he told me
    there was hell to pay if he had to come again because I mucked up my
    keyboard!
    Oh, and Jamie, he told me he was going to pay you a visit as well.
    
    Charles

    re.129
              hey Markie mark she's was right. Whats wrong with you 
    your wife beat you up Wussy.  
                                             Ite

    re. all of Cwarrens notes
                       hey C. lay off my homies or I'll be forced to
    unleash brutal comments on you.
                                 Ite
    p.s. Beats being Snausage whipped

    O.k. Dice I'm leaving the notes file for good...The truth your wife got
    it made, You sound tough but you have to keep your image up you are in
    the mensnotes file...In regards to all the men who wife or girls
    friends who wash their socks, cooks their meals, and as you guys say
    kiss you *ss all the power to ya, Hold on to them second time around
    you might not be so lucky, and regards to John Wayne"What would he do
    if a woman started to  talk back to him,  The woman wouldn't because
    he new how to please them.  That's why they called him the "The Duke"
    Not the "*ick"
    
    
    See Ya Baby!!!! 
                   

>      <<< Note 676.137 by LUDWIG::SANTANA "My Mom raised a Dingleberry" >>>

She certainly did.

>              hey Markie mark she's was right.

Where's Laurie when you need her ? However, assuming that you are referring to
Jamie's comment that the author of .125 is a "real man", then you may have a
point. However, quite what Jamie's opinion of Ad has to do with you, I'm not
sure.

>    your wife beat you up Wussy.  

Who is Wussy and why did my wife beat them up ?

    Hey Markiepoohs,
    
    No coments on me not being a real men, hey. I can makes speling
    mistakes as wel, dude.
    
    Ad

    re.139
         And don't come, back!
            That's too bad she would have been fun too.
                                       ite
    
    

    Snarf.

    <scratch> <pick my nose> <twist my head to one side and stare at
    nothing in particular> <scratch again> <pick a louse out of my pelt and
    eat it> <hear saber-tooth roar and cower a little> <scratch> <draw
    bison on cave wall> <pick my nose again>

 Good God, the rodents are at infestation levels! Where are the predators when 
you need 'em?

    The preadators have all gone to find a barf bag.
    
    Charles

    Some predators can't stop laughing long enough. 
    
    You've gotta laugh
    or else you'll barf.
    
    
    Jerome.

I think this little game has gone far enough.  If you folks want to
play troglodyte, please do it somewhere else.  Thanks.

				Steve