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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

637.0. "Exchange students" by MORO::BEELER_JE (Iacta alea est) Fri Aug 23 1991 04:34

    I'm thinking very seriously of having a foreign exchange student (high
    school) live in my home for a year.

    From my preliminary inquiries I could request someone from Germany
    since I speak German fluently and language would not be an issue (but
    truth be known, I'd rather have someone from the USSR so that I could
    possibly learn some Russian, but, that's risky).
    
    They will have their own "pocket money", health care insurance, and, an
    open return ticket to their homeland in the event that anything went
    "wrong" (for example, if I found the kid dealing in narcotics I could
    put him/her on a plane back to Germany).

    Has anyone had any experiences with exchange students?  I'd really like
    to hear any "good" and any "bad" experiences.  I have to make a
    decision quite soon.

    Bubba
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637.1Fun, but work...AKOV06::DCARROh, its.... YOU, Bob! :-)Fri Aug 23 1991 14:4048
    Jerry,
    
    There are definitely positives and negatives...   I exchanged for 3
    weeks and loved it, and parents hosted two French high school students
    for 3 weeks, one positive, one negative...
    
    Lots of things to consider, but for the first time, I would definitely
    go with the German - having to concentrate on understanding their
    English can get to be quite a chore when done continually.  (Which you
    would still do, as part of their 'job' is to learn better English, but
    it is much less frustrating when you could communicate in a common
    tongue - BTW, it gets weird, because you'll likely talk to them in
    German, and they would likely reply back to you in English :-)  You are
    also (at least we were) the entertainment director, which can be fun
    (as you see things you 'always wanted to but never got to'), but also
    draining, as you try to think of what exciting thing to do tonite (you
    feel guilty whenever they seem bored...)
    
    And, even though they have pocket money, you will of course spend quite
    a bit of your own for food, more use of household utilities and stuff,
    and you may find yourself becoming a chauffer (not sure if its
    different for a year, but ours couldn't drive only being here 3 weeks).
    Loss of privacy, money, and time would have to be the biggest negatives.
    
    However, on the positive side, you get to learn a lot about YOUR
    culture, as well as the world they live in, by watching TV and
    discussing world events through THEIR eyes...  and I'm sure a resident
    of Germany for the past few years would be very interesting and
    educational to talk to!
    
    Other aspects to consider are the impact on your family life - if you
    have kids that age, there are positive things that a new friend brings,
    but the kids also act like caretakers...  which they may or may not
    enjoy, and of course you would spend less time with them, which they
    may or may not resent.  If you don't have kids, or they're grown, be
    sure that you're not just trying to offset the empty nest syndrome,
    because you will lose some flexibility in your lifestyle...
    
    Basically, it depends mainly on the individual, and I would try to
    learn as much as possible about the person before committing, if at all
    possible (I can't imagine it would not be possible to at least read
    something about them seeing they would be in your home for a year..)
    
    Its fun, but its not all fun for the host family...
    
    Let us know what you decide, and if you want to discuss further, call.
    
    ML
637.2I've had kids before ...MORO::BEELER_JEIacta alea estFri Aug 23 1991 15:3153
.1> Lots of things to consider, but for the first time, I would definitely
.1> go with the German - having to concentrate on understanding their
.1> English can get to be quite a chore when done continually.

I've already decided on this aspect of it - definitely German.

.1> You are also (at least we were) the entertainment director...

I've thought of this also - Southern California is  F U L L  of
attractions/places/ that I'd like to see and do also - that's not
really a problem and we love to get away for the week ends.

.1> Loss of privacy, money, and time would have to be the biggest negatives.
    
Privacy?  When I was married I lived in a house with my wife, two girls,
a female dog and a female bird!  I'm used to "lack" of privacy.

Money, fortunately, is not a real problem.

Time, manageable.

.1> However, on the positive side, you get to learn a lot about YOUR
.1> culture....

I'll have to be careful to NOT turn him/her into a redneck! :-)

.1> If you don't have kids, or they're grown, be
.1> sure that you're not just trying to offset the empty nest syndrome,
.1> because you will lose some flexibility in your lifestyle...

Well ... there *is* a bit of the "empty nest syndrome" here.  I was divorced
four years ago and my kids are still in Texas - and I don't see them that
often - so - yes - there is a side of me that does want kids around the
house again ... is there anything wrong with the "empty nest syndrome"?

The "household" consists of this old USMC warhorse and my house-mate (US
ARMY Staff Sargent) and we're both looking forward to sharing some of the
finer things of life (Disneyland, Universal Studios, San Diego Zoo, Knotts
Berry Farm ... and other cultural highlights of Americana) with someone.

.1> Basically, it depends mainly on the individual, and I would try to
.1> learn as much as possible about the person before committing, if at all
.1> possible (I can't imagine it would not be possible to at least read
.1> something about them seeing they would be in your home for a year..)

I will have the opportunity to interview the person and can opt for either
male or female.

So far .. most of what I've seen as a result of this posting (in other
conferences) is "good".  I'm still weighing the pro/con ... but .. it's
looking GOOD that I'll ... 'go for it'.

Bubba    
637.3Recent experienceVAXRT::WILLIAMSFri Aug 23 1991 18:1229
    we just finished having a German boy exchange student (sr in HS).
    Language is not an issue, his English was nearly as good as mine, just
    lacking a vocabulary.  We were NOT to speak German at home, since one
    of the major reasons for being an exchange student is to "perfect" your
    english.
    
    Tax law allows you to take some miniscule deduction each month the
    student is with you, but it no way represents the added food and hot
    water expense of a teenaged boy.
    
    He came over with a credit card and got money, charged things just
    about anytime he wanted to.  This was good and bad.
    
    The relationship was more distant than I expected, almost as tho we
    were running a bed-and-breakfast.  He essentially never had friends
    over or introduced us to his friends at school or in public.
    
    We didn't learn much from him about Germany as I had lived there a
    couple of years and my wife for 13 years and we go for a visit every
    couple of years.
    
    Our other child was 11 and the age difference may have contributed to
    the distant relationships.
    
    We found a mixed experience and have decided to hold of at least a
    couple of years before reconsidering it.
    
    /s/ Jim Williams
    
637.4PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseSat Aug 24 1991 07:0014
    	It will be unlikely to work out exactly as you expect, but some of
    the surprises may be pleasant.
    
    	Last summer we had an 18 year old German girl here for several
    weeks. The idea agreed beforehand was that in return for keep, a small
    amount of pay, and a chance to practice English in the family, she would 
    keep an eye on my younger daughter (10 at the time) and speak to her in 
    German so that my daughter would get a good German accent.
    
    	The two of them spoke nothing but French together!
    
    	The up side of it was that the German girl is about the same age as
    my elder daughter, and they got on well together. She may well come to
    visit us again, but as a guest and friend of the family this time.
637.5A school year or a few weeks?VAXRT::WILLIAMSSun Aug 25 1991 12:598
    I think you will find that 10 months versus a few weeks makes quite
    a difference.  Not only in attachment to the student but in any
    "grating" habits.  After all, I can stand "anything" for two weeks.
    
    Our student was here 10 months, a complete school and slop on both
    ends.
    
    /s/ Jim Williams
637.6I WAS AN EXCHANGE STUDENT!HSOMAI::BUSTAMANTEMon Aug 26 1991 20:515
    I was an exchange student in Abilene, TX for a month, living with an
    American family. The cultural shock for me and them was extreme. I had
    a good time, though and I think they enjoyed some aspects of my visit.
    We did not socialize after the visit because we really didn't have much
    in common. I remember them fondly though.