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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

405.0. "Bill Moyers - a Gathering of men" by CHRCHL::GERMAIN (Down to the Sea in Ships) Tue Jan 09 1990 13:40

Did anybody see the Bill Moyers program, which was on last night, called
"Gathering of Men"?

 He interviewed Robert Bly, a poet, and the interview was interspersed with
parts of a lecture he gave to a group of men.

 It was an AWESOME show. Unfortunately I missed the first 15 minutes.

 Basically, Bly talked about men in American society. He talked about the 
lack of initiation rights for boys, the lack of definitions of manhood in 
our society, and how legends, poetry, stories, etc. illustrate the things
boys need to become men.

 Many many things Bly said rang quite true for me.

Gregg
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405.1another chance to see itSTARCH::WHALENHave you donated blood recently?Tue Jan 09 1990 23:572
    I didn't see it, but GBH magazine says that it will be repeated at
    7:30pm on 1/14 on channel 44.
405.2Re: It was an AWESOME showKISHOR::HEIMANNDavid HeimannMon Jan 22 1990 13:135
    I agree!  Though I also missed the first part of the show.  Can
    one get a videotape or a transcript of it?
    
    							David
    
405.3The transcriptMOSAIC::TBAKERJust singin' my songTue Mar 13 1990 14:418
    The transcript for "A Gathering of Men" with Robert Bly and Bill Moyers
    can be found in:
    
    	OS2::OS2:[PUBLIC.TBAKER]GATHER.TXT
    
    It is about 30 pages (1953 lines) long.
    
    Tom
405.4It Was On Again FDCV01::ROSSThu Mar 15 1990 12:448
    Too late now (unless) WGBX - Channel 44 - in Boston repeats it, but
    Channel 2 aired "A Gathering of Men" either last night, or the night
    before.
    
    I didn't know until I was skimming through my TV Guide, after the
    fact.
    
      Alan
405.5VAXWRK::CONNORWe are amusedThu Apr 26 1990 14:319
	Rght or wrong there are some e.g.

	First cigarette
	first drunk
	getting your drivers license
	first car
	first making love
	first rifle

405.6HKFINN::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome (Maynard)Thu May 10 1990 12:3014
    A friend of mine went to Robert Bly's seminar in Boston; my friend
    was mightily impressed.  He got a lot out of it.
    
    I saw "A Gathering of Men" when it was on.  One thing that particularly
    caught my attention was the remarks about mentors; how in more
    "primitive" (according to whose standards?) tribes, boys are taught
    what it means to be a man by a mentor; an uncle, or other adult,
    and the meaning of "manhood" is reasonably well-defined by the
    tribe.  The mentor can't be your father, by the way.  (Do I have
    that right?)
    We don't have that in our culture, generally, and I think it's a
    serious lack.  About the best we can do, generally, are people like
    scout leaders, sports figures,...and, unfortunately, in inner cities,
    dope dealers, pimps, and other nefarious characters.
405.7info on Bly tapes/books/etcVAXUUM::KOHLBRENNERWed May 23 1990 13:3529
    Books, videotapes and cassettes of Robert Bly's work
    (and others in the mythopoetic men's work) can be obtained
    from Ally Press, 524 Orleans Street, Saint Paul, MN 55107.
    For $1.00 they will send you the complete catalogue of what
    they sell and a schedule of Bly's, Michael Meade's and
    James Hillman's appearances around the country.
    
    Bly has a new book scheduled for Fall.
    
    There are three videotapes of him that Ally Press sells:
    
    A Gathering of Men (with Moyers)       cat. no. MF30  $39.95 (90 mins)
    On Being A Man  (with Meade)           cat. no. VC10  $39.95 (60 mins)
    A Man Writes to a Part of Himself      cat. no. APV1  $29.95 (60 mins)
    
    I think all three are excellent.  The APV1 tape was done in 1978
    by a guy named Tom McGrath who followed him around his farm in
    Minnesota, to poetry readings, etc.  If you like Bly and his
    poetry, you'll like the APV1 tape.
    
    The Bly/Meade tape was done by Minnesota Public Television and is
    broken into about a dozen segments each dealing with a separate
    male issue.
    
    Ally Press will take a VISA or Mastercard and their 800 number is
    
          1-800-729-3002
    
    Bill