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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

159.0. "MATURE WOMEN LOOKING FOR INFO!" by NELSON::DAVAULT () Mon Oct 05 1987 18:15

I entered a "looking for information" note in the singles conference and 
decided that placing an ad in MENNOTES might help to get more information on 
what the single men over forty are looking for.  It seems to myself as well as 
other "mature" women within DEC as well as on the outside that the single men 
over forty are hiding in the woodwork.  I've heard men (mainly those over 40) 
say they will only date women five to ten years younger than they are because 
it makes them feel young.  What about the "young" over forty ladies who have 
the maturity to offer these men?  On the other side, the men who seem to want 
to date the over 40 women are much younger and often have small children.  For 
many of us our children are grown and we are ready to pursue friendships and 
relationships with men without having to deal once again with pampers and 
pimples.  O.K. guys the ball is in your court, what are your feelings, we 
really want to know.

FYI my note in the singles conference is #758 for anyone who wants to read
it and its responses.
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159.1over 40 with kidsCOMET3::PAPATue Oct 06 1987 03:508
    In response to your comment about kids, I am 47 single with 3 kids
    living with me 2 boys age 7 and 10 and one girl age 20 . Also reciently
    I have had to move my dad in with me. so between the kids and my
    dad I figure any woman who would want to get in the middle of that
    is probably crazy. In addition I am so busy between kids,dad and
    hobbies I havent got a minute left over for anything. I do try 
    to squeeze in some work once in a while to pay for things.
                
159.3ANGORA::BUSHEEGeorge BusheeTue Oct 06 1987 12:545
     
    	Then there are some of us that are just out here
    	not in any big hurry to change the "single" status....
    
    	:^)
159.4(Grown-Up) Girls Just Want to Have FunTOPDOC::JAMESTue Oct 06 1987 13:1313
    <- My, but aren't we being a tad paranoid ? (half a smiley face
    here). The base note talks about friendship and relationship - how
    does that transfer into "losing the single status"?
    
    As a 40+ woman, the *last* thing I want is to burden (yes, as in
    too-heavy) myself with another husband. I like to meet and relate
    to men my own age, but as Momma always said, you don't have to take
    them home and keep them.
    
    I'm in no hurry to lose my freedom, either!
    
    stel
    
159.6MTBLUE::FOOTER_JOETue Oct 06 1987 14:434
    
      Perhaps a bunch of us over 40 guys just happen to prefer younger
    women!
    
159.7TO MANY RESTRICTIONSCOMET3::PAPATue Oct 06 1987 15:2813
    IT LOOKS LIKE A MULTIPLE SET OF REASONS WILL MAKE OVER 40'S COUPLES
    RARE.
    IT SEEMS A LOT OF OVER 40'S WOMEN DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH KIDS
    FROM MY EXPERIENCE A LOT OF MEN OVER 40 DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH
    THE WOMANS KIDS.
    A LOT OF MEN OVER 40 ARE INTERESTED IN WOMEN UNDER 40
    A LOT OF MEN OVER 40 WHO ARE SINGLE HAVE BEEN DRAGGED THRU
    DIVORCE COURT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND ARN'T ABOUT TO HAVE THAT
    HAPPEN AGAIN. 
    WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP THE ODD OF AN OVER 40'S MATCH SEEM REALLY
    SLIM. THEIR ARE TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS BY BOTH THE MEN AND THE WOMEN
    TO ALLOW ANY GOOD MATCHES.
    
159.9Opinion of an under 40 maleSSDEVO::B_GRAHAMTue Oct 06 1987 16:2916
    In reference to .5 - I think your comment concerning "isn't that
    what women do anyway?" is totally off the wall.  Evidently, you
    don't understand women or have gotten involved with the wrong ones!
    
    But in response to the original note - I am an under 40 male and
    prefer women over 40 for friendship as well as intimacy.  Granted
    there are inherent problems with the age difference, but there are
    differences in any relationship which the two people bring to it.
    Either you are open to accepting/changing or you're not.  I don't
    see much chance of anything if you expect everything to be just
    right from the start.  There's two people involved at all times
    or it's not a relationship at all.  So I really don't think the
    age difference has as much bearing as the personalities and 
    expectations of the people involved.
    
    By the way, I have no need for pampers and I don't have pimples!
159.10CSSE::HAKIMThu Oct 08 1987 12:3819
    I'm findng this discussion quite interesting. Seems I fall in the
    middle somewhere. I've dated men 10 years younger and 10 years
    older. I definitely prefer the older. But even when you have all
    the "apparent assets" (e.g. divorced, no children, good profession,
    good income, younger than 40 older than 30, and good looks) there's 
    always something else you don't have. I can't help but wonder if
    people don't make some kind of excuse because they just can't deal 
    with possibly failing at another relationship. I've also found 
    that older individuals have reconciled themselves to "soloing"
    and fill their lives with some many activities and commitments that
    they have no time to start a relationship. Either that, or a
    relationship is not high on the priorities list. Having run into
    these situations numerous times, I've simply taken myself off the
    market out of total discouragement. I have to believe that I am
    not a unique case and that many people do the same. I don't know
    that there is a solution, but the black hole seems to keep getting 
    larger.
    
    Ann  
159.11APEHUB::STHILAIREYou might think I'm crazyThu Oct 08 1987 14:378
    Well, .0, you heard'em, now are you sure you still want one :)?
     If you're going to put any effort into "getting a man" you may
    as well make it worthwhile and try for somebody under 40, instead
    of some dissillusioned old fuddy-dud :-)!  As .9 said, all men under
    40 don't have pimples or babies, my SO doesn't.
    
    Lorna
    
159.12QUARK::KLEINBERGERMAXCIMize your effortsSat Oct 10 1987 11:4313
    The one thing I have found with men over 40 (or approaching 40 fast!)
    is that they are so set in their ways, that they CAN'T for the world
    understand compromise...  Its either their way (cuz they have been
    doing it so long [or thats the way there mother did it]) or no way
    at all.
    
    A good friend once told me, that Dr. Ruth is famous for saying that
    if a man is single at 40, he won't ever marry (yeah, I know, ever
    is a very strong word)... but I can see where she is coming from...
    
    Just my 5 cents worth...
    
    GLK
159.13and about that bridge...MPGS::MCCLUREWhy Me???Mon Oct 12 1987 14:498
    Generalities are usually too general 8-).
    
    Just prior to my 41st birthday, I decided to end a 17 year marriage.
    Just after my 42nd birthday, I married a woman 21 years younger
    than me and am now the proud father of my first child. Stuck in
    my ways and can't think about compromise? Sure, right.
    
    Bob Mc
159.14Same as what some women want ........BETA::EARLYBob_the_HikerTue Oct 13 1987 15:1635
    re: .12
    
    Uh huh .... 'over 40 men, huh ?' ..... I guess you must mean SOME
    men (as well as some women, too ?) ...
    
    Actually, Gale makes a good point: Once  a person finds a lifestyle
    that's amenable to themselves; have achieved a certain modicum
    of security, comfort, and regularity ... why throw it all away
    and start over ?
    
    Actually. to .0 , I think many men are looking for the same thing
    many women are: A comfortable relationship they can call 'ours'.
    
    Its much nicer to wake up in the morning to the sound of crickets
    instead of complaints and screeching. Its not bad to look over at
    the wallpaper peeling and  decide to "do something about it someday"
    without needing to feel rushed into it ..........
    
    Some single men can handle multiple relatonships, sort of like 
    having more than one type of music, with the realization that to
    mae one person "superlatively happy" would be to disappoint the
    rest, and make them very sad.
    
    What do men over 40 want ? Peace, quiet, private pilots license,
    a 'nice young 21 year old women on thier arm', dancing, hiking ,
    a mountain retreat, a seaside house, a sailboat, a trip to Europe,
    Skiing .... pretty much what some "over 40 women" want (including
    the young women).
    
    I couldn't tell you what *I* want. I didn't know when I was single,
    but what I  have isn't what I predicted or asked for, but I am very
    happy with my "older woman".
    
    Bob+3