Conference decwet::windows-nt

	I have used an old freeware, 16-bit application called lview.

tgc

    There are many, many tools.  LView, like .1 mentions, is one of the
    free ones.  On the shareware side there is PaintShop Pro and LViewPro
    (LView's big brother).  And probably many, many more...
    
    Go to AltaVista and do a search.  You'll find more than you want.
    
    --Ron

I use Pain Shop Pro (shareware) to do file conversions
and image manipulations... they are able to support many
image formats and this makes it rather functional.

I currently run this at home on a Win 95 box and at work
on an NT4.0 alpha system (FX!32) and both work fine.

-John

PS. for a bunch of shareware take a look at TUCOWS
(http://tucows.myriad.net/)... choose the Win95/NT
software section and you should find more things than
you need

	Install Microsoft Office97 and you get Photo Editor which
	can read and write most popular graphics file formats.

	If you have Windows NT Server, you get a copy of FrontPage.
	The 97 version has Microsoft Image Composer which does
	alot more than the Photo Editor.

							mike

    	Thank you for all the suggestions.  I'll check on the web,
    particularly at TUCOWS.  
    
    RE: FrontPage
    
    	Can I install it on an Alpha PC running WNT V4.0 SP2 Workstation
    or must it be the Server version?  
    
    Greg
    

    FrontPage 97 works on Windows 95 or Windows NT Workstation/Server 3.51
    or 4.0.   It's around $65.  And it's $0 (well, it's part of the price
    of Server) for Windows NT Server 4.0; it's bundled with FrontPage and
    there is a special upgrade on the Service Pack 2 CD-ROM.
    
    --Ron

>        Can I install it on an Alpha PC running WNT V4.0 SP2 Workstation
>    or must it be the Server version?  
>    

	FrontPage 97 for the client is Intel only and needs FX!32 to run
  on Alpha NT.  The Server Extensions are NOT included on Alpha NT Server
  nor is the Client.  The question was about NT Workstation which includes
  neither in any case.

		Danny

    	Thanks for the clarification.  I found a product via TUCOWS 
    called LiveImage.  It installed successfully on NT Workstation 
    Alpha but it declared that every .html file I attempted to edit
    was corrupt or not an image file.  
    
        Regarding FX!32, I have not been impressed.  I tried to install
    AltaVista Search My Computer using FX!32's installation shield but
    it failed.  Apparently, AltaVista requires an Intel native MFC40.DLL
    file, but providing only changed the text of the error message.  
    What I need to find is the list of products which are "supported"
    by FX!32.  
    
    Greg
    

The readme file has a list of the test suite for FX!32, that's as
close as you'll find.

>>        Regarding FX!32, I have not been impressed.

There is a discussion in the FX32 conference about some peculiarities
with AVSMC.  There are also some tips for getting it to work.

I've been extremely impressed with FX!32.  It finally makes Alpha NT viable.

-cw

True... there are some programs that do not run under FX!32... but I
have been very please with the amount that do...

As for image translation programs... as I mentioned in an earlier post,
I run Paint Shop Pro with no issues (NT4.0 and FX!32) as well as CompuPic.
Between both of these there are very few image formats that I can not handle.

I guess that I am confused as to what it is that you want.  Image viewers
can not open .html files, this is something that you need a web browser for...
if you are looking for is something that will allow you to create web pages
with drag and drop image placement, then the above software will not do much
for you...

-John

    RE: .10
    
    	So, are you saying it's not possible to edit an existing .html
    file?  In other words, to update an existing .html file, I must go
    back and change the source file (whatever it may be) and then use
    a process analogous to compiling to convert it to a hypertext meta
    language file.  Is that correct?  
    
    	Please pardon my ignorance, but this is my first time trying to
    set-up a web page and the built-in WNT utilities don't seem to ad-
    dress this application (as previously discussed).  
    
    Greg
    

    RE: .9
    
    	Yes, I've read topics 137 and 193 in the FX32 Notes conference.
    I'll tried all the suggestions listed in both topics and still did
    NOT get AltaVista to successfully install.  Regardless of whether 
    an Intel-format MFC40.DLL file is placed in the sys32x86 [approx.]
    directory or not, I get an error complaining about said DLL file.
    I've decided to leave it be for a while based upon the assessment that
    these are both initial versions of their respective products.  I'm
    hoping, that in the meantime, AltaVista Software, a spin-off of DEC,
    will make a native Alpha version available.  
    
    Greg
    

re: .11

Greg,
	I wiull admit that I do not understand excatly
what it is that you are trying to accomplish.  From what I
gather you want to be able to add an image to a web page...

OK... load the image that you want to put on the page
into one of the image programs and save it as a GIF (.gif) or
JPEG (.jpg) as these are the formats that can be viewed by
HTML viewers (ie. Netscape and MSIE).

Now... once you have an image you have to add / update the
reference in the web page to it.  Open the .html source
file with a text editor (notepad) and look for the IMG tag
the references the image and update the name of the
reference.

I do not think that this is the place to discuss web page syntax,
but I would recommend that if you are trying to learn HTML you
might want to pick up a primer book or take a look at some
pages on the WEB to get you going.

-JB.

PS. I got going with HTML at http://www.rpi.edu/~mackd/html.html

feel free to drop me an e-mail note if you want some more
help...

	Moderators hat on....


	I think it's time to take this over to the INTERNET_TOOLS
	notesfile please.

								mike

	I think that WEB_AUTHORING on COSME3 is more appropriate.  If you are
  trying to edit an HTML file, you don't compile or convert anything.  Get an
  HTML editor like NaviPress or Navigator Gold to help you with thjis task.

	Danny

	(Donning INTERNET_TOOLS Moderator's hat)

    After reading the requests, it looks like we may be missing a
    fundemental question:
    
    HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is an ASCII text file.  It contains
    a mixture of text (content) and commands.  The commands are also in
    ASCII, and may change the format and appearance of the text or may
    point to external files ("hyper links").  The most common external file
    types are either other HTML files, or to image files.  The most common
    image file formats are GIF and JPEG.
    
    The image files are not contained in the HTML file -- they are separate
    files.  The only thing contained in the HTML file is the name of the
    image file.
    
    Editing an HTML file requires nothing more than a text editor, such as
    windows NOTEPAD.  A number of programs are available which allow you to
    edit the HTML text in a WYSIWYG ("what you see is what you get")
    manner, but this isn't required.
    
    Many books are available on this subject.

    RE: .13-.16
    
    	Thank you for all the suggestions.  Obviously, I have much to 
    learn about setting up a web page.  Unfortunately, it's a side 
    project, and I won't be able to devote the time to learn it pro-
    perly for a while.  I'll check the sources you recommended and 
    post any further questions in one of the other Notes conferences.
    Thanks especially for the summary of web page 'production' in .16.
    
    Greg