Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Geez, anyone who does that much thinking so early on Sunday morning must
really be a jerk.... :-)

Jenna

    What makes you think Lorna loved you in the first place, HUH ? 
    (ya big commie, unrealistic, naive, JERK !), snicker, snicker ;-).
    
    Just Kidding !  I love your note, it really made me laugh.  But
    you've got a very valid message.  I feel the way you do.  You just
    have to remember that people like you and I are rare, and we are
    the realistic people, all the other dummies are the REAL jerks.
    Just keep on helping people and giving your opinions. The worst
    anyone can do is call you a *&^%$#@#% JERK , right ?  So what !
    I've been called worse !
    
    Darrell
    

       re .0:
       
       Perhaps the problem is that you're too concerned with others
       and don't think of yourself enough.
       
       --Mr Topaz

    
      When you put your ideas of how to make thing better in terms of"the
    peoples revolution" you should expect less than glowing reviews.
    
      Now that you've found out what your problem is via your early
    morning introspection, take the next step and cure yourself of your
    jerkiness.
    

Note 385.0                 confessions of a real jerk                  4 replies

    THINK OF YOURSELF AS A FOUR-LETTER MAN!
    
    	i'm a jerk.
    
    AND WHO ISN'T???
    
    	i question everything....
    
    HOW ELSE ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN?
    
    	"who invented marriage?, why? and do we still need it?"
    
    PEOPLE WHO FOUND THAT SOCIETY WAS LONELY AS HELL IF NOBODY STAYED
    HOME!  TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR CHILDREN.  ONLY NEED IN THE US.
    
    	"why should i wear a suit and tie ANYWHERE?"
    
    BECAUSE OTHER DO. E.G. TO SHOW YOUR RESPECT FOR THE DECEASED.
    
    	"if this country is so great how come the offical government
stats reveal 30% poverty?"
    
    IT'S NOT *THAT* GREAT, BUT IT'S STILL THE *BEST*!
    
    	"if socialism is bad how come the government has socialized
the tax system such that rich and poor pay the same tax?"
    
    BECAUSE THE RICH ARE SMARTER!
    
    	"if dec really had such large profits 4 years in a row how
come we are only getting 4.5 and 5% raises?"
    
    BECAUSE DEC IS SMARTER THAN YOU ARE!
    
    	"if we have seperation of church and state why do churches pay
no taxes at all which makes the non-rich pay even more taxes?"

    BECAUSE TAXATION LEADS TO CONTROL. [HOW else are you going to provide
    community services and get people off the streets on Sunday? ;-)]
    
    	i say "the government should be open 9-9 so we don't have to
take time off from work to do government business!"
    
    WHY NOT 9-6 SO THAT GOVT. WORKERS PUT IN THE SAME HOURS AS YOU?
    
    will lorna still love me?

    GOOD LUCK!
    

    Have you tried sleeping until noon?_:-)  It does wonders for Sunday
    morning introspection.

        Excuse me. You've been protesting your ill treatment in this
        file for a couple of days now, but to be honest, the only person
        I've seen calling you a jerk is you. Have I missed something?
        It's clear you are angry, but I have yet to figure out precisely
        why.
        
        JimB. 

    
    Gee......I didn't realize wet raspberries would be taken so hard....
    
    <:->
    

    Suggestion:  respond to an entry if you like.
    
    Before sending, Re-read your response.  Ask yourself:
    
    Is it saying what I want it to?
    Will it offend anyone in particular?
    Do I care if it offends the people it might offend?
    If you care - change the medium without changing the "message"
    
    I have found some few things you say ill-phrased, but that happens
    to everybody....I mean with an audience like this there's bound
    to be flamage on occasion - everyone has their sore spots.  All
    in all, I know very few jerks, and I don't know you too well but
    I think I can safely say there isn't enough evidence here to indight
    you.  
    
    In third grade, when someone called us a jerk, we'd retort:  
    "A jerk is a pull, a pull is a tug, a tug is a yank, and a Yank
    is an American - thanks for the compliment"
    .....well I suppose now I'm a little older it's not quite so
    comforting.....
    
    -Jody

    I shift from the SOAPBOX into HUMAN_RELATIONS for a dandelion break,
    and find SOAPBOX all over again. Ahhhh...
    
    

    
    Aside from a faith in human nature that I find unrealistic, I find
    nothing particularly jerky about the base noter.
    
    As for whether or not Lorna will still love him, that's her business.
    
    DFW

    RE: .9, .13, .14
    
    I think the author of the base note is feeling a bit gun shy, because
    of reactions he got to his note, paraphrased more here in HUMAN_
    RELATIONS, that he entered in SOAPBOX.
    
    RE:. 11
    
    >  All in all, I know very few jerks, and I don't know you too 
    >  well, but I think I can safely say there isn't enough evidence
    >  here to indight (sic) you.
    
    Jody, back when I took various English courses in High School and
    College, a statement like this was known as "damning with faint
    praise".
    
    If the author is *really* feeling down on himself, he could be
    thinking "Boy, it's a good think I didn't write any more than I
    did. Then she'd have the evidence to *know* I'm a jerk".
    
        Alan
    
    

    
    What does it take to *really* be a jerk?
    
    I'm not talking lightweight jerks, but 
    rather industrial strength persistent
    jerks.
    
    Any thoughts about that?

    re: .15
    
    *sigh*...
    
    I did not mean to "damn with faint praise", it was  meant to be
    "light, tongue-in-cheek sarcasm" rather than "foolish, foot-in-mouth
    sarcasm".  And I honestly mean I have seen very few jerks roaming
    the face of the earth - I get the feeling that the process of "natural
    selection" precludes them from overrunning the world.  When someone
    has a different opinion than mine, I don't consider that "jerky"
    even if it's (in my eyes) poorly phrased.  Often I respond if
    I think it's real....sometimes I deem it a decoy and don't rise
    to the bait.....
    
    No-one can corner the market on jerkiness - there's enough out there
    for all of us to taste it once in a while (in this case humble pie).
    
    -Jody

    
    	Ah, to be a *real* jerk, a healthy dose of belligerence is needed.
    I think Rik's a little off base in claiming to be a real jerk, cause
    I've seen him in action; he's not belligerent at all!
    
    	Joe Jas

    Isn't everyone a jerk at one time or another?  I've met mercifully
    few who make a career out of being one.
    
    Carol :-)
    

There is a catch-22 to all self-labeling:  If you think you are a jerk, then 
you can't possibly really be one - a real jerk is the person who does jerky 
things and never thinks about it.

So you see, you cannot be a jerk (FOOL, yes, jerk, no).

Joe

    re: .22
    
    Huh?  Who, besides Lorna, can decide whther or not Lorna still loves
    him?
    
    DFW

    I see this discussion going downhill rapidly.  If there aren't any
    more comments related to the topic of the base note, perhaps we
    can close this for now.
    					Steve

RE: 24	Please do. I don't see why this was entered in the 1st place.