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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

956.0. ""The Family in America" magazine" by CURIE::HAROUTIAN () Thu Jan 18 1990 16:25

    Hubby and I received a mail solicitation yesterday about a new
    magazine called "The Family in America". 
    
    This magazine describes itself as "uniquely qualified and positioned to
    reveal, often months or more in advance, major trends which will affect
    American families and, hence, the future of American society itself."
    
    Here are some quotes from the advertising piece (all without
    permission):
    
    "Here are a few examples of the issues we cover--always with
    first-class writing and clear, level-headed thinking...
    
    	PARENTS AND PUSHERS--Everyone has a theory about how to solve
    	the drug problem.  But one fact remains constsnt--and hushed up.
    	Father-led families prove far more resistant to drugs than 
    	mother-led families.
    
    	VANISHING MOMS--Grade school texts are filled with truck-driving,
    	fire-fighting, adventure-seeking women, with traditional mothers
    	censored out of the pages.  How will this affect the future of
    	the American family?  Most educators don't want you to know.
    
    	GOD IS ALIVE AND WELL--Recently, researchers made the "shocking"
    	discovery that religion has not gone away and that family
    	behavior in America is still broadly guided by faith.  But
    	some folks want to cover it all up.  Here's how they'll do it.
    
    	TURMOIL AT "MARRIAGE GAP"--What many political pollsters
    	interpreted as a "gender gap" turns out to be largely a "marriage
    	gap", reflecting the differing pollitical attitudes of married
    	and unmarried women.  But most "experts" will see to it that 
    	the real beliefs of women are kept secret.
    
    	DAY CARE: THALIDOMIDE OF THE 80'S--Like the notorious drug of
    	the '60's, Day Care has been termed "completely safe."  But
    	now it can be proven that this new threat to children not only
    	imperils the body, it also distorts and withers the spirit.
    	Here's what's really happening in day care centers across the
    	nation."
    
    And some more:
    
    "Below is a sampling of the kind of articles you'll find in The Family
    in America--
    
    	Day Care: How it Breeds Aggression and Disease
    	Why It's Not Always Wrong for Teens to Marry
    	How America is Drifting Toward Polygamy
    	Why More Women Working Means Lower Pay for Men
    	The Link Between Mother-Dominated Families and Drug Use
    	Perilous Parallel: Working Wives, Suicidal Husbands
    	America's Journey from Roast Chicken to Feminist Stew
    	Why There's More Teen Sex in the Single-Parent Home"
    
    ***********************************************************************
    What do you think, fellow students of the human condition?  Is the
    American family going to h**l in a handbasket because of truck-driving
    moms?  (My husband noted here, his "favorite type".)  Is the drug
    problem due to moms being heads of households?  Is this magazine
    paranoid and off the wall, or does it reflect what's happening?
    
    Lynn
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956.1I'd recommend a good Leibfraumilch with this mealSTAR::RDAVISPlaster of Salt Lake CityThu Jan 18 1990 16:465
    Personally, I love the choice of "Roast Chicken" or "Feminist Stew"...
    
    "Oh, Mom, not feminist stew AGAIN!"
    
    Ray
956.2LYRIC::BOBBITTchanges fill my time...Thu Jan 18 1990 16:518
    What do I think?  <formfeed for the ebullition-sensitive>
    
    
    
    BA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
    
    -Jody
    
956.3Roast feminists???CURIE::HAROUTIANThu Jan 18 1990 17:1513
    Ray, I'm still giggling!!
    
    I thought the whole thing was pretty funny myself, until I kept
    reading...I didn't, by a long shot, include the whole of the
    advertising piece they sent...it's pretty scary, to me, to be reminded
    that there are people who seem to perceive equal opportunity to mean
    the disintegration of the American family.  I'm at a loss as to how to
    cope with my feeling of despair about this.  Yes, I value free speech;
    at the same time, the whole thrust of this mag seems aimed at making
    "The Handmaiden's Tale" come true.
    
    Lynn
    
956.4Who's responsible for this???GEMVAX::ADAMSThu Jan 18 1990 17:396
    Lynn-
    
    Could you tell us who the publisher is?
    
    Nancy
    
956.5quadruple double-takeTLE::RANDALLliving on another planetThu Jan 18 1990 17:483
    Wait a minute.  I make feminist roast chicken!
    
    --bonnie
956.6No reply to THIS reply card!CURIE::HAROUTIANThu Jan 18 1990 17:494
    Nancy,
    Didn't bring the "postage already paid reply card" with me; will look
    it up when I get home tonight.
    Lynn
956.7Mormons maybe?AKO569::JOYGet a life!Thu Jan 18 1990 17:596
    From the slant of it, I'd hazard a guess that it was in some way
    related to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (the
    Mormons). Just a guess though.
    
    Deb
    
956.8QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centThu Jan 18 1990 19:494
I don't think the Mormons are anywhere as fanatically paranoid as this
publication's promoters seem to be.

			Steve
956.9Depressing ThoughtsMCIS2::RODLINThe machine knows what it's doing.Thu Jan 18 1990 22:418
     It troubles me a great deal each time I hear about publications like
    the one mentioned here. These magazines (and other forms of
    publication) are read by millions of people every day, and many believe
    what they read unquestioningly. This leads to further ignorance, and
    the problem perpetuates. I wish people in general were more open-minded
    and tolerant, but as children we have no control over what we are
    raised to believe.
    							- Jim -
956.10Terror, anger and laughterSTAR::RDAVISPlaster of Salt Lake CityFri Jan 19 1990 02:2024
    My natural tendency for gallows humor regarding things like this grew
    by leaps and bounds during my high school days, in a rural Missouri
    town.  (Probably did a lot to help my appreciation of horror movies as
    well - ever notice how many of them center around rednecks?)
    
    The school library was given a subscription to a lunatic-fringe
    right-wing "newspaper" by some John Bircher or another.  It included
    articles about the Protocols of Zion, Jimmy Carter's plot to have all
    white women impregnated by black men, the hidden connection between
    Rockefeller and the commies, and (taking the prize) the Coca-Cola
    conspiracy (too complicated to get into here, but remind me to tell you
    about it if we ever meet over drinks).  The paper boasted of high sales
    and I have indeed found it in odd corners of the country since then.
    
    In school, the only people who ever read it were me and the librarian,
    and we read it for laughs.  The Baptist comic books got a lot more
    attention from the students, although I can't recall them stopping
    anyone from drinking, dancing, cussing, drugging, or screwing around.
    
    Having raised your consciousness of just how many lunatics are out and
    about (which any observant person probably already knows), there's not
    much left to do about rags like that but appreciate them as humor.
    
    Ray
956.11Ward, I'm worried about the Beaver...TINCUP::KOLBEThe dilettante debutanteFri Jan 19 1990 17:225
    A lot of people read the National Enquirer and think it's the
    truth. Maybe it's the same crowd that will read this. After all, if
    you let women decide for themselves you get those ugly situations
    where a two headed woman gets pregnant and one side wants an
    abortion. And who needs that in a society like ours? liesl
956.12;^)COBWEB::SWALKERSharon Walker, BASIC/SCANFri Jan 19 1990 18:2541
    
		
>    	DAY CARE: THALIDOMIDE OF THE 80'S--Like the notorious drug of
>    	the '60's, Day Care has been termed "completely safe."  But
>    	now it can be proven that this new threat to children not only
>    	imperils the body, it also distorts and withers the spirit.

	    Conclusion: one parent should stay home with the kids while
	    the other works.


>    	Father-led families prove far more resistant to drugs than 
>    	mother-led families.

>    	Why More Women Working Means Lower Pay for Men

>    	The Link Between Mother-Dominated Families and Drug Use

	    Amended conclusion: Dad should stay home with the kids while
	    Mom works.  He won't be able to make much money anyway, and
	    it's the only way to keep the kids off drugs.
	

>    	VANISHING MOMS--Grade school texts are filled with truck-driving,
>    	fire-fighting, adventure-seeking women, with traditional mothers
>    	censored out of the pages.  How will this affect the future of
>    	the American family?  Most educators don't want you to know.

>    	Perilous Parallel: Working Wives, Suicidal Husbands

	    Amended conclusion: Dad won't be able to take it, and he'll
	    kill himself.  Sounds like a radical plot on the part of feminist
	    educators to get rid of the men.  
	
	    I wouldn't worry too much about it, though, because...


>	most "experts" will see to it that the real beliefs of women 
>	are kept secret.
    

956.13Right on!MCIS2::WALTONJohn Boy This!Fri Jan 19 1990 18:327
    Re:-1
    
    
    That was GREAT!!!!!!  :-)
    
    Sue
    (still laughing)!
956.14Thanks for this informationTDCIS3::BOUSCARRUTMon Jan 22 1990 13:0115
    Hi Sue,
    
    I do not understand all replies, but I think that I agree with -1
    and with you too.
    Is it possible for anybody to send me an example of that review?
         
    I have the possibility to exchange to send you a french review,
    if you need.
    
    Have a good day,
    
    Annie
    
    - Alone in France ?
    
956.15Back-to-the-Bible propagandaCLOVE::GODINFEMINIST - and proud of it!Mon Jan 22 1990 15:4211
    This sounds like some publications from a fundamentalist religious
    group my mother sends me for Christmas and birthday presents every
    year.  At first I got angry.  Then I poked fun.  Later I got brave
    enough to ask her not to send them to me (and even played with the idea
    of sending her a subscription to Playboy or Penthouse in return).  Now
    I just throw them into the trash  -- where they belong -- when they 
    arrive.
    
    But she still prays for me, so I'm sure I'll see the light someday.
    
    Karen
956.16CSCMA::PERRYMon Jan 22 1990 19:3318
    I have a freind who gets "the truth".  The thing that bugs me is
    that my freind isn't that bright and really thinks this mag is the
    real truth...He's not even very religious.
    
    The Truth is another right wing mag about that nasty deterioating
    American society, and those naughty feminists screaming about freedom
    of choice (pro choice...)...
    
    I'm kinda on the fence my self (politically) but it is awfully annoying
    to have a magazine so jaded by a particular viewpoint that claims
    to be the truth....it just angers me greatly!!!!
    
    But I do support ones right to freedom of speech...and I guess the
    ignorant have every right...
    
    gosh - it just bothers me!!!
    
    
956.17You're a feminist, I'm a capitalist - better than fundamentalist!CADSYS::BAYJ.A.P.P.Mon Jan 22 1990 20:1514
    re:  But she still prays for me, so I'm sure I'll see the light someday.
    
    Sounds like you already have!  Hows the saying go?  Courage to change
    what I can, serenity to accept what I can't, and wisdom to know the
    difference.  
    
    The only thing unaccetable would be if that was *ALL* I got for
    Christmas and birthday!!!  :-)
    
    As for such things in general, you know what they say: everyone is
    entitled to thier own ridiculous opinion!
    
    Jim
    
956.18" Its all relative" : EinsteinAKOV11::SOBELLTue Jan 23 1990 15:445
    FWIW -	
    	Truth comes in many flavors, not all of which is real in the sense
    that it can be proven.  Take case in point :
    
    		PRAVDA  ( in Russian ) 	= TRUTH
956.19Quotes On AmericaACE::MOOREThu Aug 23 1990 14:0416
    
    The beauty of  America is that the average man always thinks he's above
    average.
    
    America is a land of oppurtunity. Everbody can become a taxpayer.
    
    As the IRS sees it, America is land of untold wealth.
    
    America has the highest standard of living in the world. Now's lets
    raise our standard of thinking.
    
    Naturalists who claim AMerica's wildlife is disapperaing don't stay up
    very late at night.
    
    
                                   RM