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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

928.0. "Sad aniversary" by JUMBLY::POTTEN (Trevor Potten, Media Services Manager ESDP(Europe)) Fri Dec 22 1989 11:15

This week saw the aniversary of the Lockerbie air disaster. It was a
truely international and very local disaster.

I was/am part of the team looking after the 'how people feel' part of
the situation, it was a very moving time for me.

Many of those connected with that sad event are still in a bad way and my
guess is that the emotional wound will take many years to repair, if ever.

I wonder how you folks in the USA feel/felt about that terrible event and
what happens to the folk on your side of the pond, some of whom must be
badly hurting inside too.

Best ... Trevor
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928.1I too feel the sadness..WR2FOR::KRANICH_KAFri Dec 22 1989 16:519
    I too feel the sadness, and I was not related to anyone involved
    in the disaster.  I saw on the news last night they had a special
    service for all of those who were killed, and it brought back the
    nightmare of that day.  I live here in California, and I remember
    all the news coverage when it happened, and wondered how such a
    thing could happen.  I was angry that there were warnings to the
    airline and they were not listen to them.  I prey for the families
    and hope that someday the pain will lessen, but it will always be
    in their hearts....
928.2more than sorry.....angry!EXIT26::DROSSELStephen Drossel BUO/dtn:249-4201Fri Dec 22 1989 18:4812
    
    There has been VERY little information that any government is willing
    to talk about with respect to this happenning.  There have been
    accusations (sp?) of cover-ups with MANY governments....  The area was
    shut off to the public for a while......am I wrong...is it still?
    One thing is for certain.....there were far too many shady things going
    on down under the Reagan presidency (things I myself in 80' would have
    never of imagined with him.....then again, I didn't live in Calif. when
    he was governor.).....CIA not excluded.
    
    steve
    
928.3more than sorry...SCARED!!AUNTB::WISEMANMon Jan 01 1990 03:4418
    
    As the mother of college-age children, the thought of the lives of the
    Syracuse University students cut short and the grief that their parents
    have to bear really hits home. 
    
    It's frightening to realize how cheaply some people, terrorists and 
    politicians alike, hold our children's safety.  I'd like to see some
    kind of accountability, both for whoever caused the tragedy and whoever
    allowed it to happen by apathy/negligence in not warning the
    passengers.
    
    And, as much as I like to get cheap air fares, I'd certainly be willing
    to pay more for increased airport security measures.  How do other feel
    about it?
    
    
    Mary
    
928.4An extra line ...sorryJUMBLY::POTTENTrevor Potten, Media Services Manager ESDP(Europe)Mon Jan 01 1990 15:439
Just an extra line or two...

I went to the village last week and saw the stone, the village is mostly 
repaired, but not the feelings of that terrible Christmas. 

How do we humans continue to do these things to ourselves and our children?

Love Trevor

928.5SOFBAS::LIVINGSTONEpio desiderioMon Jan 01 1990 16:3412
    I hope to visit the UK again soon and when I head north to my relatives
    in Cheshire hope to drive further up to Lockerbie...
    
    I would gladly pay full fares if that's what it takes to put the extra
    fire power into security measures. 
    
    I applaud Northwest for their openness about the bomb scares on their
    Flight 51 this holiday weekend.
    
    Maybe letters to the airline and Transportation Board are in order...
    
    lin
928.6It's up to us to decideHANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Wed Jan 03 1990 02:3321
> How do we humans continue to do these things to ourselves and our children?

This is a very good question.  I believe we really do, in effect, do these
things to ourselves.

  If we judge others harshly, we will be judged harshly.

  If we use violence against others, others will use violence against us.

  If we try to control others by fear (deterence), others will try
  to control us by fear (terrorism).

We have to make a choice.  Do we want to live in a world ruled by the
law of force, or the force of law?

Today, with nuclear weapons, the law of force no longer works.  Ultimate
use of force means the destruction of our planet.  But we haven't figured
out what to use in place of force for dealing with stubborn conflicts,
and thus we drift.

- Peter
928.7It's up to each 'me' to decide.JUMBLY::POTTENTrevor, a 'Bear of little brain'Wed Jan 03 1990 09:568
re.6

I agree Peter.

I see the only hope for any of us is that we really do what most religions
advise - love one another. Sounds trite and 'corny' and out of fashion but
it is very hard to really do.
Love Trevor