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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

777.0. "How do I get out of this mess?" by QUARK::HR_MODERATOR () Fri Jun 02 1989 15:43

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	Help!  I am in a very tough situation and am looking for input
	on how to resolve it.  Any good advice would be greatly appre-
	ciated.

	My previous manager seemed to be threaten by my performance - until 
	I started working for him I had a record for be a good performer,
	however once I started working for him things changed!  On the 
	day I started working under him he came up to me, complained
	that I had been "stealing the glory" and instructed me to dis-
	continue any work I had been doing on various projects. Instead he 
	assigned me what might be considered clerical work to perform.
	While working under him I found it very difficult to get any co-
	operation and further, on various occasions he called "stupid" 
	in front customers and embarrassed me in front of my associates.

	I tried to resolve the issue peacefully, first by making an effort
	to work with him and then to address with the matter with his 
	manager, who tried a team-building exercise.  Neither approach
	worked.

	The real problem started when immediately after he gave me my poor
	performance review he gave a verbal warning which made me look
	like a monster!  The warning indicated that I was insubordinate,
	was damaging customers systems by experimenting with them, that 
	my attitude had grown progressively worse with time and that I 
	could not get along with either my associates or customers.  And,
	oh yes how could I forget, that I was harassing a couple of my
	female associates.  Immediately upon receiving the warning, I was 
	handed over to a new manager who was to carry the warning through.  

	I went to personal and complained - a lot!  I was able to demon-
	strate that most of the warning was groundless.  The individual
	from personal appeared sympathetic to my cause and took some action.
	The 'grapevine' indicated my manager had been demoted and considering
	that a LOT of his old responsibilities suddenly disappeared and his
	role in the organization was changed, there appears to have been 
	some truth to it. Finally, I was able to get rid of the warning 
	when one night my new manager was quoted as saying "I don't know 
	what you did did, but you were wrong!"  I immediately told her I 
	would be getting a lawyer (I was finally getting mad about the whole 
	deal). Well, a little while later she told me the warning had been 
	dropped.

	I got out of that group and started a new position a couple of weeks
	ago.  The problem is, that soon after I started my job , stories 
	of my 'misconduct', the warning, 'my threat to sue DEC' and other 
	new and interesting stories began to pop-up (could it be my old
	manager?).  It has put my new managers and I at complete odds, 
	they are not thrilled at all with what they have heard and seem 
	to want me out of their group badly!  I tried to let them under-
	stand what happened - no luck.

	The situation is like this, I tried to do the best job I could for
	DEC, got screwed by a manager (I know that's life) and am in a 
	very poor position as a result. There appears to be no future pro-
	spects for me in my new group and seem to have little hope with 
	getting another job with the kind of reputation I appear to have 
	developed. That I may get fired for all this seems well within 
	reason.

	Are there any suggestions on how I can clear this up?  

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777.1HOW ABOUT...?YUPPY::DAVIESARebel YellFri Jun 02 1989 16:2720
    
    Would it be possible for you, with the cooperation of personnel,
    to arrange a "round the table" meeting with all the people involved?
    
    The "DEC grapevine" sounds as if it's at work here - sometimes it
    bears valuable fruit, but sometimes it carries Chinese Whispers....
    
    You don't say whether you've relocated in the course of all this,
    so I don't know if it would be easy to call a one-location meeting.
    And I guess you'd need to get someone senior involved from personnel
    who hadn't been mixed up in this before - is there "Corporate
    Personnel"? If you feel that being fired for no good reason is a
    possibility, surely it is serious enough to involve someone senior.....
    
    Whilst I appreciate your viewpoint, the others concerned must have
    other views with their own "validation". Maybe by getting all the
    facets together to openly discuss your situation with you some
    truths will emerge and some myths could be killed off.
    
    
777.2Prove the Rumors Wrong !MPGS::PELTIERFri Jun 02 1989 16:2912
    First, if you are a hard worker and good employee, then your
    performance *will* outway your 'reputation' as long as you are given
    the chance to do so.  They have hired you to do a job - do it the best 
    that you can.  I'm sure it is easy for me to sit here and say this, 
    but the fact is it isn't easy to work when it feels like everyone is 
    talking about you.
    
    People will always gossip.  Do your job, do it well, and be the good
    person that you believe you are.  Soon, people will see that the rumor
    is unsubstantiated.  Hang in there......
    
    
777.3suggested readingJACOB::SULLIVANFri Jun 02 1989 16:3718
    There's a book called "The Projection Principle" by Dr. George Weinberg
    which talks about changing or managing peoples impressions of you.  It
    might provide you with some tools to use in this situation.
    
    The book is based on the principle that:
    
    "If you can get a person to stop acting an accordance with a wrong
    perception and to treat you in a new and desired way, the person will,
    after awhile, see you in a new way.  They will then find a variety of
    other desired ways of acting that are consonant with their new view of
    you.  These will further reinforce their new, good Projection".
    
    Its a good place to start.....
    
    Tough situation though when judged guilty without cause of "trial"
    
    good luck
    
777.4ACESMK::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Fri Jun 02 1989 16:4613
    Document, document, document.  Write down what you accomplish when,
    for whom, and how.  Immediately after any meeting with your manager,
    write down what happened; you might even take notes during the meeting.
    Get specific complaints:  Not just "insubordinate" but when this
    happpened and why it is being considered insubordination.  Be prepared
    to hash through every little thing if necessary.  Keep in mind that
    very few situations are entirely the fault of any one person.  To
    every action, there is a reaction.  If your manager is responsible
    for an action, you are responsible for your reaction.  If some of
    your reactions failed to improve the situation, be prepared to
    acknowledge your role in the deteriorating relationship.  For instance,
    "Yes, I did threaten to get a lawyer.  I was very frustrated at
    the time.  I realize this was antagonistic of me."
777.5Personnel ConsultantATPS::GREENHALGEMouseFri Jun 02 1989 17:4213
    
    
    I agree with .4 - write down *everything*, no matter how insignificant
    it may seem.  The burden of proof is going to lie on you.
    
    Make an appointment to meet with your Personnel Consultant to review
    this matter.  Managers just can't go around randomly issuing warnings
    to employees.  They have to justify it.  Your previous manager's
    justification should be in your personnel record.  Also, the fact that
    the warning was rescinded will also appear in your personnel record.
    
    I suggest you follow up with your Personnel Consultant first.  Ask for
    his/her recommendations.  
777.6SUBURB::GLOVERPI'll have a TanglefootFri Jun 09 1989 13:0710
    Use the chain.
    
    I'm not sure if it works the same way in the states as here but
    if it were me I would use my manager 1st, then personel,then if
    i feel really stood on then I'd carry on going through the chain
    until I felt that something positive had been achieved.
    
    Just my view though.
    
    Hang on in there. Phil.
777.7KEEP UP YOUR STRENGTHCGVAX2::MICHAELSFri Jun 09 1989 22:0225
    Every employee has access to their Personnel file. Check it thoroughly.
    If the warning has been rescinded, there will be no evidence of
    it in your file. If a physical copy exists, get a copy of the
    cancellation and have the original warning removed. Further, the
    fact that it was rescinded does not have to appear in your Personnel
    file, either.
    
    For any action to be considered a harrassment issue, there has to
    be a response. In other words, one person would have made some comment
    or gesture. THEN - and this is VERY important, - the person to whom
    the comment or gesture was directed would have to tell the first
    person in some way, "That offends me. Don't do it again. I mind
    it." (Words to that effect.) Once the first person is made aware
    that someone else is offended by the comment or gesture, it should
    stop. If the same person makes the same comment or gesture to the
    same second person, THEN a case of harrassment can be made.
    
    I agree with the noters who say, "Document everything. It's tough
    to be in a situation where you feel this needs to be done, but
    sometimes it is necessary."
    
    Best of luck to you. Stay strong.
    
    					Susan