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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

637.0. "DECmove blues...you feel this way?" by BSS::HOE (miracles begins with prayer...) Wed Dec 14 1988 15:42

DECmove blues....

Since joining DEC 5 years ago in Santa Clara, I have moved a
total of 6 times; with the 7th and 8th in sight. As a group,
we're moving to a new building and again down one floor by end of
FY 89.

I feel like a "box person". It's really dragging me down and
actually affecting my creativity.

cal hoe
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637.1About averageAKOV13::FULTZED FULTZWed Dec 14 1988 15:5512
    I think that you are being hit by the growth of the company.  As
    groups grow, they need more space.  It would probably be inefficient
    to allocate all of the needed space to a group.  For one, how much
    growth and for how long would you allocate into the formula.
    
    6 or 7 times is about what I have done in the last 5 years.  It
    does get to be a drag.  But look at the good side.  At least you
    get the area cleaned out of any unnecessary items (hopefully) with
    each move.
    
    Ed..
    
637.2it's ubiquitousCSC32::DELKERWed Dec 14 1988 21:273
    We move about 1.3 times per year here, too.  But in the almost 5
    years I've been here, I've only had to change buildings once.
    
637.3NEXUS::GORTMAKERWhatsa Gort?Thu Dec 15 1988 09:089
    I've been thru so many moves since I started working for DEC that
    I have lost count. My last move was one that I have to say
    was a total waste of my time, the movers time and DEC's money.
    I moved across the Isle! The time before that I moved 15 feet so
    it was justified.#^)
    What I hate about moving is that it always takes me about a week
    to get all my s#%$ back in order where I can find it in a hurry.
    
    -j
637.4have you considered movingGYPSC::BINGERbeethoven was dutchThu Dec 15 1988 11:474
    :-) I was going to suggest that you change jobs cal:).. but that
    would entail a  move..
    Could resist it
    Stephen
637.5this makes sense to some people....SALEM::SAWYERAlien. On MY planet we reason!Thu Dec 15 1988 13:1118
    
    4-5 years ago in upo
    finance, in 18 months, moved 4 times.
    
    ============
    same building; friend of mine was in a group occupying 1/4 of the
    2'nd floor. The remaining 3/4's were empty.
      a new group was coming into the building and needed
    @1/4 of a floor. did they take part of the 3/4's that was empty?
    
    nope. they wanted the 1/4 that was in use by my friends group...
    negotiations got under way....
    my friends group was told to move....
    they did....
    and the new group coming into the building....
    never came to the building....they went some place else...
    
    god, eeh government and digital move in mysterious ways....
637.6"Mov'n"VAX4::SHULERThu Dec 15 1988 19:3711
    Hi,
    
    Talk to Charlie Hine.
    
    He has moved in one (1) year the number of times you have moved
    since coming to DEC.
    
    Happy "Mov'n" New Year!
    
    Gina
    
637.7COGITO::STERLINGAye, Shiver Me Timbers, Support the NRA.Fri Dec 16 1988 13:3015
    
    
      I would think that all this unnecessary movement is highly expensive 
    to the company, (not to mention extremely disruptive to those affected 
    by this moving around).
      
      In a time when the corporation is saying that DEC needs to tighten 
    its company belt in the form of restricted upward, or even lateral, 
    movement, less than cost-of-living pay raises etc, one has to wonder 
    if things like this "musical cubicles" game is one of the reasons
    behind such problems.  
    
                           
    
    Dave
637.8Never no wear ur goin.VIDEO::PARENTJAcro, Wrights side upFri Dec 16 1988 15:179
    
    Got this from someone else, as a different view.
    
    		"Change is as good as a vacation."
    
    What in the boxes, old dreams gone by?
    
    John
    
637.9NACAD::KRISTYCertified Hug TherapistFri Dec 16 1988 16:523
    Moving groups to and fro is a write-off for the company.  In the
    immediate sense, it costs the company a golden penny or two, but
    the company gets a break at tax-time.
637.10Some moves are neededAKOV13::FULTZED FULTZFri Dec 16 1988 18:559
    We may get a break at tax time, but I would question what it costs
    us beyond money.  What about the sense of lack of control.  What
    about the frustration.  What about the lost productivity.
    
    I would submit that what we gain at tax time time is more than offset
    by these other less tangible items.
    
    Ed..
    
637.11isn't there a better way?SSDEVO::GALLUPUofA 86 UNLV 75--Movin up!Fri Dec 16 1988 20:2811
	 talk about moves...I've been here 11 months....Or entire
	 group changed offices in October....at this time they also
	 laid temporary wiring for more power into the area.

         now we are having to pack up again, so they can move
         everything out of our offices so that they can change the
	 wiring to a permanent power upgrade...then they'll move all
	 our stuff back into our offices...

	 anyone else had to "move" to their same office?
637.12I had to call for directions...SUPER::REGNELLSmile!--Payback is a MOTHER!Sat Dec 17 1988 18:2010
         I was hired in May....
         
         I started in June...
         
         They "moved" my office twice before I got here....
         
         It was more fun in absentia %^>
         
         Mel
637.13argggggghCOMET::INDERMUEHLESun Dec 18 1988 03:575

When I go in on Monday, my office will have moved.  It took almost a day to
pack - I had to unload my entire horizontal file cabinet - it's going to take
probably that same time to unpack.   sigh ...
637.14HYDRA::ECKERTJerry EckertSun Dec 18 1988 22:046
    I'm about to move into my 11th cube in 5 1/3 years.  In one 8
    month period I had 4 different cubes in another facility where
    I was working temporarily (in addition to the 11 above).
    Fortunately the last two moves have been within the same floor
    of the same building and to unoccupied cubicles.  By moving myself
    I was able to avoid packing 80+ boxes!
637.15BOSHOG::TAMLaughing in the Dark ....Sun Dec 18 1988 22:386
    
    I have been here for 1.5 years now, and I have only been moved once.
    And it was to another building within the same site.
    
    peter
    
637.16I can't move, my plants have taken root!WMOIS::B_REINKEMirabile dictuMon Dec 19 1988 00:065
    In my first year and a half at Dec I moved four times in the same
    building. However, I am celebrating my 3rd Christmas in the same
    cubicle...is that any kind of a record these days? :-)
    
    Bonnie
637.18Cube with a view of the eastern RockiesCLOSUS::HOEstompin' Sammy's daddyFri Jan 06 1989 14:2519
DECmove update:

Over the holidays, our whole group relocated into a building with
an awsome view of the Rockies as well as the plains (you pick the
view). Things actually worked at the first power up.

I guess some moves are worth it. When we finally get into our
final home on the 4th floor of KDT, we are promised a "permanent"
home. (Mind if I am a doubting Thomas?)

We are also promised a hand in the design of the cubicals. The
"temporary" space is made of paper thin panels so if the next
cube's phone rings, (actually, it beeps since we have the
electronic phones), you'd think it's your phone beeping. I solved
the problem with a ringer from Radio Shack.

Now, we have a CUBE WITH A VIEW.

cal who_found_that_the_move_was_somewhat_ok