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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

435.0. "H_R Peace Conference" by <Deleted> () Wed Dec 09 1987 11:26

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435.2Remember our social responsibilitiesMARCIE::JLAMOTTEdays of whisper and pretendWed Dec 09 1987 15:5719
    I would like to think about this for awhile before I answer how
    I might attempt to better keep peace with myself and others.
    
    I just finished reading a story about a man who lives in Leominster
    that killed his wife and daughter and himself.  He worked for Digital
    could have had access to these conferences.  I do not recall that
    he ever contributed.
    
    My point is that we need to take the same responsibilities for our
    words and actions that we would if were face to face.  In fact we
    need to take more precaution.  If someone is relating feelings we
    can gauge our feedback by the expressions on his/her face.  Not
    so on the terminal.
    
    I would never suggest that anyone's actions prompted the case I
    mentioned.  
    
    I would strongly suggest that the tone of our replies to critical
    issues could prevent such a tragedy.
435.3Give me peace, thy most precious gift....SQM::AITELEvery little breeze....Wed Dec 09 1987 16:3626
    This one is close to me right now, since I'm having a lot of trouble
    with my temper lately.  Most of it seems to be related to my fear
    of expressing myself truthfully, especially to those I love.  For
    me, peace on the household front now hinges on truth, and truth
    will only be expressed when I believe in myself.
    
    I've gone through a lot of changes in the past year; those of you who
    know me can see some physical changes - I've lost about 50 lbs.  What
    you can't see quite so directly is the psychological change that is
    occurring, which has both enabled the physical change, and been forced
    to the front by it.  Now that I can't hide behind what I thought of as
    physical shortcomings, I have to work on the emotional stuff, which
    brings me back to my subject:  believing in myself enough to be
    honest with others.
    
    This is what's at the root of my temper - when I am frustrated by
    feeling unable to speak my mind, I simply grasp at whatever there
    is to argue about.  When I want closeness, I fight.  So now I'm
    working on going into my head before I burst out, looking at what
    I'm doing and thinking, looking at what I really want to be doing,
    and TELLING the other person what's going on.
    
    The amazing thing is, noone laughs, and it works.
    
    In peace,
    	Louise
435.4CSSE::CLARKdodging lions and wasting timeWed Dec 09 1987 16:3926
    1. Nobody is better than anybody else. Granted, some people may
    be better at sports, programming, or art history than others,
    but there are lots of thing to be good at. Somebody is always
    bette than you at something. 
    
    2. This also holds for groups of people. The white race is not
    better than any other. Neither are Christians better than
    Jews or Moslems. Neither are Germans better than Poles, or
    Americans better than Russians. Neither are college-educated
    people better than non-college-educated people.
    
    3. People also have their own values, which come from within.
    There is nothing you can do to change what somebody else likes
    to do (except teach them new things they may like to do). But
    you must respect their right to do what they want to, as long
    as it does not interfere with what you want to do.
    
    4. Using violence to accomplish something is NEVER the optimal
    way of doing it. It may be easier in the short term, but the
    long-term consequences are always bad.
    
    
    To me, these principals have been confirmed by years of watching
    people and sifting through my observations in a very rational
    way. I am not particularly religious. I feel that these are very
    practical things to keep in mind when you are dealing with people.
435.5Info on Peacestuff from the UUnotesfileGNUVAX::BOBBITTa collie down isnt a collie beatenWed Dec 09 1987 19:32165
this was boiled down from the UU notesfile discussion of peace.  UU
    can be found (I think) at node JUNIPR...correct me if I'm wrong.
     Also they are having pen pals for peace luncheons, which I will
    post about later.  When I first tried to enter this, I WROTE instead
    of REPLYING.  I deleted my first false start, and hope it didn't
    inconvenience anyone.  These are by various authors, from note 59.
    
    -Jody
    
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	I'd like to take this opportunity to announce a group which
    I recently discovered called Beyond War.  I copied this note without
    Pete's permission (I'm sure he won't mind).

	To join Beyond War, either contact Peter Sichel, or write to
    their national office:

				Beyond War
				222 High Street
				Palo Alto, CA 94301

Beyond War is a grassroots educational movement that formed in response
to the crises we now face.  Today we share our world with over fifty
thousand nuclear weapons each more powerful than the bomb that destroyed
Hiroshima.  All that we have ever strived to protect could be lost in
a matter of minutes.  Beyond War is working to establish a new way of
thinking that will move the nations of the world beyond their current
deadly rivalry.  Our action is education, we teach non-violent means
of resolving conflict.

I've found Beyond War ideas valuable both in the personal sense of
gaining a better understanding of the process of building agreement,
and also as a constructive way for individuals to make a difference
in reducing the risk of nuclear catastrophe.

I'd be happy to try to answer any questions you have about Beyond War.

- Peter

Beyond War is currently engaged in a national campaign to have this country
make a decision about war.  As part of this campaign, we are reaching out
to voters in Iowa and New Hampshire to try to raise the level of dialogue
about the issue of whether war works anymore.  We're not working for any
candidate, but rather for this issue.

Iowa and New Hampshire are effectively "the eye of the needle".  Every
Presidential Candidate must to pass through these two states.  By engaging
people in dialogue on this issue, we hope they will ask the candidates
tough questions which will in turn raise the issue on the national agenda.

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    As a result of these experiences, I have come to the following
    conclusions:
    
    1) Peace, even on a global scale, is everyone's responsibility - MY
    responsibility. That means doing something more than spending my energy
    on convincing other people of the importance of peace. I must wage
    peace in such a way that my actions are an appropriate end-product of
    the process. That means both engaging in peace-promoting activities
    and refraining from peace-hindering activities.
    
    2) A prerequisite for peace on any scale - personal, community,
    international - is understanding. Before you can have understanding,
    you must have knowledge. For the vast majority of Americans,
    knowledge, and by extension understanding, of Soviet society is only
    obtainable second-hand. The same can be said of Soviet citizens'
    knowledge of western/American society. Furthermore, many of the
    sources of that second-hand knowledge are - shall we say - imperfect
    channels.
    
    3) Of all the forms which peace activism takes, citizen diplomacy
    appeals to me (personally) the most. I feel that whatever I am able
    to accomplish will be truly incremental to the global process. My
    energies are limited. I'm probably not going to solve the problem
    single-handed. But even so small a thing as communicating with a
    Russian pen-pal is a shoulder to the wheel which can make a
    difference. If I can maintain the resolve to do more, I can make
    proportionately more of a difference.
    
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    There is an outfit called PeaceNet based in California (natch') that
    runs a computer conferencing network devoted to peace activist
    groups. There are over 100 conferences available sponsored by such
    groups as Beyond War, GreenPeace, Citizens for Innovative Diplomacy,
    Friends Committee on National Legislation, Central America Resource
    Network (CARNET), and many, many others.
    
    While some of the conferences are interactive, many are primarily for
    bulletins posted by the sponsoring organization or related
    groups/individuals. These are great for getting the latest word on
    what's happening in Washington, etc.
    
    For example, CARNET publishes a bi-weekly bulletin on what's
    happening in congress regarding Contra funding, upcoming votes on
    foreign policy issues, and so forth. The information is detailed and
    up-to-the-minute.
    
    In addition, there are mail gateways to ARPAnet, BITnet, etc. and all
    USENET conferences are available through PeaceNet.
    
    The $10 monthly fee gives you 1 hour of off-peak connect time via
    Telenet (local call most places). There's also a $10 sign-up fee. In
    my experience, it's well worth the cost. Basically you get tied in to
    a world-wide network of peace activists of all kinds.
    
    You can reach PeaceNet by writing to them at 3228 Sacramento Street,
    San Francisco, CA, 94115. If you sign up, be sure to tell them
    Bill Forbes (wforbes) sent you; they kick back an hour's worth of
    connect time for each referral.
    
    If you want more info, send me VAXmail or call at DTN 297 5753.
        
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    	Mark your calendar now!  There will be a national rally on
    Saturday, May 18th, 1988, near Falcon Air Station (which doesn't
    even have a landing strip, mind you), outside Colorado Springs in
    protest of the Strategic Defense Initiative, aka, "Star Wars".
    
    	This event is being organized by a local group called Citizens
    for Peace in Space, but has the endorsement of numerous other
    groups; religious, political and peace-oriented.

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    	"The Pikes Peak Justice and Peace Commission is composed of people
    of faith and conscience seeking to create a more just and peaceful
    global society.  The Commission embraces non-violent social action,
    and education.
    
    	ACTIVE FOR JUSTICE is published monthly under the Pikes Peak
    Justice and Peace Commission.  Our editorial objectives are to network
    with a braod based peace and justice community, to educate and inform
    people in the areas of local, national, and international peace,
    justice and non-violence, to provide a public forum for discussion
    and to communicate to our readers and commission members and friends
    the work of the Commission."

    	The foregoing is a published statement by the PPJ&PC.  A subscription
    to ACTIVE FOR JUSTICE is 10 dollars per year.  I think it's an
    excellent publication, but I'm prejudiced.  I'm on the board of directors,
    which meets monthly at All Souls Unitarian Universalist Church.

Pikes Peak Justice and Peace Commission:
    
    		2021 W. Pikes Peak Ave #5
    		Colorado Springs, CO 80904

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(more useful addresses)

	Letters for Peace		Russian Pen Pal Project
	59 Bluff Ave.			International Friendship League
	Rowayton, CT 06853		55 Mt. Vernon St.
	(203) 853-8038			Boston, MA 02108
					(617) 523-4273

	We also plan to check into the "Sister City" project (in which
    Worcester, and Pushkin are sister cities).  More details as they
    surface...be sure to join in on the fun anytime!  Contact either
    of us for details on the next meeting(s).

435.6pen pals for peaceGNUVAX::BOBBITTa collie down isnt a collie beatenWed Dec 09 1987 19:3732
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Note 59.5                       P * E * A * C * E                        5 of 20
VLNVAX::DMCLURE "Utopia is only a spec away"          8 lines  28-NOV-1987 02:30
                  -< Join the lunchtime Pen-Pals for Peace! >-
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	This is great!  Please feel free to enter more information
    about the PeaceNet here if you wish.  You've also got me
    interested in learning Russian during lunch, we'll have to
    try and reserve a conference room somewhere...

p.s.	Anyone else interested please join in!

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Note 59.20                      P * E * A * C * E                       20 of 20
VLNVAX::DMCLURE "Utopia is only a spec away"         28 lines   9-DEC-1987 05:01
                    -< Minutes from the first PPP meeting >-
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	Well, we had our first PPP (Pen Pals for Peace) meeting last Friday.
    Although the turnout was a little on the small side (just Bill Forbes
    and myself), the meeting went quite well.  As a matter of fact, we solved
    world peace, so I guess this disscussion is closed (I wish ;^).  Anyway,
    since I realize that many of you don't live anywhere near MR01 (Marlboro),
    I will try and post minutes from these meetings in here as they occur.

	We have decided to take a very neutral political stand while searching
    for ways to link individuals from both sides of the wall together.  Bill
    is going to start by learning Russian, and I have decided to learn Russian
    as well, but I also plan to go ahead and begin making contacts in hopes
    that my Pen Pal will already know a little English.

435.7A lesson for us allRDGE00::BOOTHDeliberately Eclectic CharacterThu Dec 10 1987 08:447
        Re: .4

        The four points in your reply should be printed as large as
        possible and distributed to every employee and notice board
        in the company (and beyond) with strict instructions to read
        and understand.
435.8Is there something in the air?MRMFG1::M_TANNYThu Dec 17 1987 18:5126
    RE:  .3
    
    Louise -
    
    Your opening lines took the words out of my very mouth.  
    
    I'm VERY interested in what you're going through, as it sounds like
    some of my issues may be close to (if not) identical to yours.  I'm at the
    stage of searching  for the psychological change you're talking
    about (including  the change which initiates the weight loss, so
    there will be no more physical defenses to hide behind, and also to
    be able to look at myself in a more positive manner).  My temper
    is rearing its (ugly?) not-so-little head, and scaring the living
    daylights out of me.  I'm  working very hard on keeping it in check,
    and after 36 years of suppressing it, have a lot to learn about
    handling anger, etc.  Even my dreams the  past two weeks have been
    expressing extreme anger, but I can't figure out to whom/what or
    why.  
    
    If you'd be interested in discussing this further, I can be reached
    @ MRMFG1::M_TANNY, DTN 297-2065, or MRO1-3/FX1.
    
    Regards -
    
    Mary