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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

433.0. "Y*****Pie Labels..." by PLANET::GIRARD () Thu Dec 03 1987 17:28

    Read in the Globe last night that "Yuppies" will be transforming
    in "Yeepies" and I won't do the acronym justice by explaining it,
    although it describes the fitness and aging of a generation in
    comparison of those before.  The economist who dwells on such
    things also made a prediction that the "Yeepies" will be much more
    sensitive to issues concerning old age in the near future.
    
    As a potential Yeepie (oh, yuch!) I am curious to know what others
    feel about such labels.  The media really takes up such things
    with a passion, and before you know it, you are a "yeepie" like
    it or not.  
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433.1we need a label for people making labelsMOSAIC::MODICAThu Dec 03 1987 19:263
    I dislike all the labels. They many times are used in a derogatory
    manner. I wonder if they won't end up creating yet more
    stereotyping of people.
433.2CEODEV::FAULKNERKerryThu Dec 03 1987 19:532
    Labels are a necessity.
    How else would we know what is in the container?
433.3CEODEV::FAULKNERKerryThu Dec 03 1987 19:554
    But Seriously .1.
    
    Do the labels create the stereotypes  ??????????
    Or do the stereotypes create the labels ??????????
433.4Stereotype contents are never completePLANET::GIRARDThu Dec 03 1987 22:158
re: .2 + .3:
    
    a.) Human Beings aren't cans of soup.  I would be hard pressed to
        list all the ingredients which go into our each unique container!
    
    b.) In this case an economist created a label becuase of a stereotype
        created by another economist's label.  He just wanted to perpetuate
        it.  But I doubt he will get the Nobel Prize for it.
433.6CEODEV::FAULKNERKerrySat Dec 05 1987 21:312
    I hate labels.
    Noters (everyone of them) love em.
433.7From Yup to Yeep...PLANET::GIRARDMon Dec 07 1987 09:2414
    Re: .5  
    
       AP - "Aging Yuppies won't fade away, they'll just turn into Yeepies,"
    a University of Florida expert on the elderly says.  "As baby boomers
    age, a new group will emerge that I'm calling Yeepies - Youthful,
    Energetic, Elderly, People Involved in Everything," said Stephan
    M. Golant, a gerontologist (sorry, Yuppies was created by an economist,
    maybe economists just never die they become gerontologists?). This
    group will make up a really large market of consumer-orientated
    buyers."   Golant also said that with longer life expectancy, Yuppies
    will themselves have older parents and will be more sensitive to
    the needs of the elderly.
    
    
433.8AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueMon Dec 07 1987 20:056
        
        
	Guess I'll be a Yeepie then cuz I wish I could have my Mom
        covered under my health insurance...
        
        						mike
433.9PARITY::DDAVISAll this & brains, tooTue Dec 08 1987 11:538
    I think I'm a GRUMPIE.....

        Grown Up Mature Person Involved in Everything!

        -     -  -      -      -           -
    
    
    -Dotti.
433.10It ought to be Second Nature...VIDA::BNELSONCalifornia Dreamin'...Tue Dec 08 1987 15:2657

Labels in general are dangerous.  If you take it too far, pretty soon every
one of us would be alone in our own little label.  That's not good, I think
we should be striving to get people TOGETHER, not pull them APART!

Of course, at some point you do need some sort of label so people know they
are talking about the same thing.  Differentiating "people" from "dogs", for
example.  But those are high-level labels, not like "yuppie", "yeepie", or
one of the other of thousands of labels which tend to subdivide the human
race.

A refrain from the song, "Second Nature", by Rush, talks about this:


                                  Second Nature

	A memo to a higher office
	Open letter to the powers that be
	To a God, a king, a head of state
	A captain of industry
	To the movers and the shakers --
	Can't everybody see?

	It ought to be second nature --
	I mean, the places where we live!
	Let's talk about this sensibly --
	We're not insensitive
	I know progress has no patience --
	But something's got to give

	I know you're different --
	You know I'm the same
	We're both too busy
	To be taking the blame
	I'd like some changes,
	But you don't have the time
	We can't go on thinking
	It's a victimless crime
	No one is blameless,
	But we're all without shame
	We fight the fire --
	While we're
	Feeding the flames

	.
	.
	.



                                                  Rush, from
                                                  "Hold Your Fire"
                                                     Geddy Lee
                                                     Alex Lifeson
                                                     Neil Peart ( lyrics )

433.11Take-home pay: what's *that*?LUDWIG::PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Sat Dec 15 1990 13:4817
    Most of the people I work with here are "puppies".....
    
    Poor....
    
    Underpaid....
    
    Professionals....
    
    Praying for an....
    
    Increase in....
    
    Earnings!
    
    
    					Cheers!
    					--Eric--