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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

396.0. "It's MAC Tonight..." by FLOWER::JASNIEWSKI () Fri Sep 18 1987 12:19

    
    	So who watches the TV and believes that what they see on the
    screen is real or has anything to do with reality? Let's leave the
    nightly news programs out of the discussion for the time being...
    
    	The VT screen that your reading this on...very similar to the
    one at home with "channels"...this is reality too, OK? I'm a real
    person (even though I may not have "registered" in note 3) and what
    I'm saying is at least as real as "bugs bunny" or "dynasty"...or
    that silly commercial "It's MAC tonight!!!"
    
    	(I cant even remember the last time I thought about it...You?)  
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396.1Was it ever meant to be real?WBA::GIRARDFri Sep 18 1987 12:4537
    I have quit television.  Mostly for the lack of participation it
    requires and the level of intelligence it takes to view.  Programs
    such as Frontline and current events programming occasionally may
    draw me to someone else set, but sitcoms and police stories have
    very little sense of reality.  We just don't live like that nor
    did we ever when Ozzie never had a visible job and Harriet always
    wore a dress and heels every day.  
    
    Occasionally, someone comes up with a brilliant idea, like the 
    Honeymooners, M.A.S.H., Laugh-in, and (although I have never watched
    it) Cosby show.  But the sexist, insulting attitudes that actors
    portray to eachother on the tube is offensive to me.  I took the
    women's liberation seriously because I really do believe that a
    brain just as attractive as a body.  I don't think network TV shares
    that opinion.  In the former note about naivite', how many jokes
    and oneliners in sitcoms are based on ignorance, sexism, and
    mistreatment of the other person?  If I acted like that in reality,
    I would have very few people to talk to.  I am wondering if the
    prerequisite in watching some commercial TV should be to turn off
    your brain.  
    
    But on commercial TV, demographics rules the ratings.
    If you don't buy the commercial products, you just may lose you
    favorite show.  Now they are going to make some people register
    their viewing with an I.D. card punch box.  Just so they can see
    if you have swallowed the commercials whole or have taken time to
    chew them up a little bit.  Big Brother is real, he is just a lot
    nicer about it than George Orwell thought he would be.
    
    Give me a book, a play, a concert.  Let my eyes experience a new
    word or literary allusion, or revel at the technique of a member
    of an orcestra or band.  And most of all, someone else, please come
    with me.  You may add something to the experience which I have ignored.
    
    GRG
    
    (I am not real. Especially if TV is!)
396.2BUSY::KLEINBERGERMAXCIMize your effortsSat Sep 19 1987 01:3921
    Every Tuesday night at 8pm, on Channel {your local PBS Station goes
    here} 2 (for me) is NOVA....
    
    It represents reality like there is no tommorrow, or maybe because
    of some of the research there is a tomorrow...
    
    Right now, my girls are watching a movie called "Rags to Riches"..
    although it is not reality, in a way it is... the underlying motive
    of the show is real reality... if you try, you can do something...
    
    A couple of weeks ago, I took the girls to a movie, called "Can't Buy
    Me Love".... fake, yes, do guys usually walk up to a girl and pay her
    $1000.00 to be their girlfirend for a month?... but when you looked at
    what it stood for: that you should be yourself, and not try to be
    everyone else... That you are liked for being you, not what you think
    others want you to be! 
    
    Is it ever meant to be real... I think so... it all depends on what
    you look for I guess...
    
    GLK
396.3Hmm $50.00/ 5 minutes maybe ?BETA::EARLYBob_the_HikerMon Sep 21 1987 12:3414
   re: .2
    
    Hmm do guys offer women money ?
    
    Sure, some guys walk up to women and offer them $50.00 to be their
    'girl friend' for 5 minutes (or is it 10 minutes nowadays ?).
    
    On  a 'per minute' basis, isn't that more than $1000 per week ?
    
    :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  
    
			    BOB 

    :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  
396.5Must be...FLOWER::JASNIEWSKIWed Sep 23 1987 16:496
    
    	I thought "this must be the same people who did the California
    raisins"
    
    	Joe Jas
    
396.6It's just "fluff"NFL::WATKINSMon Sep 28 1987 10:5820
    Back to the original subject...
     
    As much as I hate to admit it, I have found myself watching a lot
    more Tv than I used to.  I used to be much too busy with my SO during
    the week, but since we've cut down to weekends (it's too long of
    a commute to see each other on weekdays) I am getting to know each
    evening's line up better and better.
    No, I don't think Tv has anything to do with reality (with the
    exception of a couple halfway intelligent shows).  I think that
    people get together and dream up farfetched storylines that will
    make people sit down and watch out of curiosity, or just because
    they already happen to be sitting down.  I don't think the general
    public cares all that much, personally.  It's entertainment, right?
    I'd comment on the integrity of the writers that are just trying
    to cash in on their medium, except that Tv scriptwriting/production
    etc. etc. is the direction I will be taking when I enter college
    next fall.
    
    Stacie
    
396.7Brain Food from the Tube: PBSTSG::MCGOVERNSzechuan VanillaTue Sep 29 1987 17:3520
    Fooey on commercial (and cable) TV.  Feh.
    
    I recommend (as an earlier respondant did) PBS.
    
    NOVA
    DISCOVER
    Great Performances
    MacNeil/Lehrer New Hour
    and so many other series (on dance, architecture, music, painting,
    etc) that I can't remember them all.
    
    Intellecutal fare, and one that requires a good bit of participation:
     you have to read up on them in the press to find out what they
    are about before just zoning out for hours at a time facing the
    tube.  
    
    I would long ago have burnt my tube but for PBS (and PBS radio,
    too.)
    
    MM   
396.9Can you say "Gimme more!"??DELNI::FOLEYRebel witha coldWed Sep 30 1987 01:235
    
    
    	Monday night what??
    
    							mike
396.10SQM::AITELNO ZUKES!!!!Wed Sep 30 1987 14:425
    ...Not to mention the NEW startrek episodes, which actually contain
    COMPETENT females in more than bikinis!  Will wonders never
    cease!
    
    --L