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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

231.0. "Taller Women- Shorter Men" by VAXWRK::CONNOR (John Connor) Wed Mar 04 1987 14:51

Topic 78 introduced older women and younger men. I like to bring
taller women and shorter men. It seems everywhere you look, on the
street, in the work place, home, newspapers - anywhere where there
is a close relationship - the man the taller. Is this an unwritten
rule? Is it because in some perhaps hidden desire or drive that
men want to dominate or women want to be cared for? It would be
interesting to hear from both men and women about their feelings.
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231.2WATNEY::SPARROWYou want me to do what??Wed Mar 04 1987 17:364
    Personnally, I like *tall* men, but then it's not often I find men
    shorter then me,;-), afterall, I am a very tall 5'2".
    
    vivian
231.3Height is not an important criteriaCADSYS::RICHARDSONWed Mar 04 1987 18:1627
    I'm just under 6' tall - I always wished that I had made it to 6'
    but I didn't quite (my brother is 6'5").  That makes me much taller
    than most men, including Paul (who is probably 5'9" or so).  However,
    our strides are the same length - makes it nice to walk around holding
    hands!
    
    This topic reminds me of a funny sotry.  One day, I think before
    Paul and I got married (5 years ago), Paul's best friend, Mark,
    was over at our place helping us do some heavy yard work.  Mark
    is a good-looking, curly-headed guy, and not very tall (maybe 5'6").
    He was also, in those days, extremely shy, especially around women
    (he was in his mid-20s).  He came inside and found me rustling up
    lunch for us all in the kitchen, and struck up a conversation or
    tired to - it was onvious that he wanted to ask me something, but
    couldn't quite get up the nerve.  After he hemmed and ha<wed for
    a couple of minutes, I said "what is it, Mark?  Out with it!"...
    turned he wanted to know if I thought a tall woman would date a
    shorter man!  Now Mark knew that we were engaged at the time, so
    he surely knew what I would say.  I told him that as long as both
    his feet reached the ground most of the time when he walked, he
    was in fine shape and shouldn't worry (the standard answer for this
    sort of question in my tall family).
    
    I guess I was right, too!  He not only dated her, but they got married
    2 1/2 years ago, and Paul was Best Man at their wedding!
    
    Personality is MUCH more important that height!
231.4PARITY::DDAVISDottiWed Mar 04 1987 18:418
    
    I like tall men.  I am not attracted to a short man.  I guess you
    could say I discriminate, but that's how I feel.  I think Marge
    is right - a tall man is someone to look up to.  In fact someone
    took a survey that said the most successful men are over 6 feet.
    
    
    
231.5sparrow is for small ?VIDEO::OSMANand silos to fill before I feep, and silos to fill before I feepWed Mar 04 1987 18:452
Is that why your username is SPARROW ?  Although if that's your last
name, I wonder how your father's parents knew you'd be short! :-)
231.6Not necessarily; what about Napoleon?YODA::BARANSKISearching for Lowell Apartmentmates...Wed Mar 04 1987 18:480
231.7QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Mar 04 1987 19:0011
    My favorite quote about relative heights of men and women is
    that the only important thing is that they're the same height
    lying down!
    
    I'm attracted to tall women, but height isn't the most important
    thing.  Being 6'4", there aren't too many women near my height,
    but I have found that if a woman is 5'7" or so, we are comfortable
    together.  If she's shorter than 5'4", it starts becoming
    uncomfortable.  But I do find that women who are 5'10" or taller
    really attract my attention.
    					Steve
231.8hello out there?JACUZI::DAUGHANfight individualismWed Mar 04 1987 19:013
    all right k.n.f. where is your 2 cents????
    
    				kelly  :-)
231.9APEHUB::STHILAIREWed Mar 04 1987 19:068
    I have trouble relating to people who think height matters.  It
    has nothing to do with whether I consider a man attractive.  I have
    never dated a man shorter than me, but then I am 5'1".  But, I don't
    care if they are 5'6" or 6'.  (I care about a lot of other attributes
    though!)
    
    Lorna
    
231.10FELIX::GKLEINBERGERmisery IS optionalWed Mar 04 1987 23:387
    I like stretching up to wrap my arms around his neck... and having
    to stand on my tippy toes to kiss him.....  I was married to a man
    who was the same height as I was, and now dating a man 7 inches
    taller...  I'll take the extra seven inches any day :-)...
    
    Gale (who now wears heels ALL the time)
    
231.11Hard to get anyone shorter....STUBBI::B_REINKEthe fire and the rose are oneThu Mar 05 1987 01:059
    Well I've only dated one man my height, 5" 3/4" and never anyone
    shorter. As to taller men I found I was uncomfortable dating, &talking 
    to men over a foot taller then me because it made me feel a bit like 
    I was out with a parent. My husband is just 5" taller than me.
    But in general when it comes to friends I don't think their
    height makes any difference. I like people for what kind of person
    they are not their height. :-) (My daughter who is now 13 has had
    two boy friends (i.e. she meets them to go skating every Sat and
    talks to them on the phone) and both of them were shorter.) 
231.12FOLES::FOLEYRebel without a clueThu Mar 05 1987 02:369
    
    
    	I've dated all heights from 4'11" to 6'2". As one gets older,
    one tends to overlook things like height and concentrate on more
    interesting things..
    
    	Lover of long legs,
    
    						mike
231.13I like it too...FLOWER::JASNIEWSKIThu Mar 05 1987 11:2115
    
    	It's easy: The woman likes to put her head on the guy's shoulder,
    feeling very secure in being cradled in his strong arms. It just
    isnt the same, somehow, if she's gotta stoop down or bend too far
    to do so.
    
    	Of course on the other hand, it's kinda nice for the man to
    put his head on her shoulder and feel very secure in being cradled...
    But I guess that doesnt quite fit into the old cliche', does it?
    
    	Therefore, for the most part, women prefer taller men.
    
    
    	Joe Jas
    
231.14Sparrow's stand REEEAAAALLLL tall!WATNEY::SPARROWYou want me to do what??Thu Mar 05 1987 13:3914
    Fun story to follow:::
    
    A couple of years ago, I was dating a gentleman who was 6'6". Like
    another noter did, I wore heals all the time.  Summertime roled
    around and we both played softball, (pitch) and were very aggressive
    and competitive on the softball field.  One day we were going to
    a bar to celebrate our game win, and he put his arm around me,
    and realized he was putting his arm around my head, I went to put
    my arm around him and found that I was putting my arm around his
    thigh.  He jumped back, freaked out and said " My gawd, I didn't
    realize you were so short!"  
    
    vivian
    
231.15everything is in your headCEODEV::FAULKNERsquare circleThu Mar 05 1987 15:1712
    When I was in grade school I learned to dance square dances.
    The teacher had a very diplomatic method of chosing partners.
    Alphabetically.
    I was (the shortest) matched with the tallest girl in the class.
    She stood a head taller than anyone else (including the teacher)
    in the room.
    I did not like it.
    I lost track of Renee for 10 years. 
    The next time I saw her I was 18.
    Surprised the heck out of both of us when I looked down to her face.
    I taught me well that size is irrellevant.
    
231.16An outsider looks in...ZEPPO::MAHLERInhuman Decorum in Human RelationsThu Mar 05 1987 15:256
    Here Here.

    Just another form of predjudice.


231.17Is this surprising?SUPER::MATTHEWSDon't panicThu Mar 05 1987 15:2711
    Hey, this is a simple matter of statistics. Most men are taller
    than most women; given one of each, the man is extremely likely
    to be the taller one. 
    
    Some people may desire a taller or shorter mate for various reasons,
    but I don't think you can generalize about them.
    
    					Val
    
    (for the record, the tallest man I've ever been involved with is
    1/4" shorter than I am)
231.18The long and short of it..HENRY8::BULLOCKJane, no heavy breathers, pleaseThu Mar 05 1987 17:5515
    Funny--when I started dating, I was always attracted to taller men,
    but found that I became good friends with men my height or shorter.
    The tall men I dated never did work out;  then I got smart and started
    dating my shorter friends, and things worked out better.
    
    That's not really a testimonial--just a funny coincidence.
    
    The man I am seeing now is a few inches taller than me, but I look
    down on him in heels.  He's terrific!!
    
    As for cuddling, we do it both ways--depending on whose heels are
    higher that day!
    
    JAne
    
231.19I like all sizesSTING::BARBERSkyking Tactical ServicesFri Mar 06 1987 12:4210
    
     Ive always been attracted to a ladies personality and being 
     before height. But I must admit that I do have a weakness for 
     long legs (like Mike Foley) and most of the time they are 
     attached to taller women. One side note is that a long time lady
    friend is 6'2" and according to her, she finds that most women 
    over 5'10" have a tendency to intimidate men. I never felt that
    with a taller woman, but I wonder how many do.
    
                                        Bob B
231.21tfhCEODEV::FAULKNERnow i got nuttinFri Mar 06 1987 16:135
    re.20
    bob your ending joke was a 
    
    bust
    
231.22Show's a better femaleBMT::COMAROWthanx metzSat Mar 07 1987 00:347
    Women who are attracted to short men are obviously much more
    intelligent, open minded, discriminating, superior, attractive,
    capable, independent, elegant programmers, warm hearted,
    healthier, have better genes, get along with others, write maintainable
    code, hate cobol, love the outdoors, etc.
    
                                      bob - 5'4" and a half
231.23Short people got no rights.NANOOK::SCOTTLooking towards the sunSun Mar 08 1987 03:3029


          I kind of agree with Bob (.22) but then  again  I  sure
     wish I had the opportunity to date someone who was my height
     or  shorter.   The  shortest  woman  I  have  ever   had   a
     relationship  with was at least 3" taller than myself (my ex
     wife  -  and  she  refused  to  wear  flat  shoes)  and  the
     absolutely  shortest  woman  was  1"  taller  than  me.  The
     tallest woman (a 1 1/2 year relationship)  was  a  full  12"
     taller.

          Sometimes dating tall women can have serious drawbacks.
     Do you have any idea how hard it is to find men's shoes with
     heels?  I have only one pair and they're  getting  warn  out
     fast.  One other drawback is Tall women do not like to dance
     with the man staring at their chest.  - take it from one who
     doesn't  get much of a chance to dance slow dances.  To me -
     anyone over 5'4" is TALL.

          About the only thing I have going for being short - I'm
     about  the  only  one who doesn't get knocked out in my wood
     working shop though I've lost a few hairs  and  at  least  I
     don't need a stool to reach anything there.  Elsewere I have
     to carry a stool around in my back pocket.

     The sun is the same from down here.

     Lee
231.24Don't wear heels --CADSYS::RICHARDSONMon Mar 09 1987 16:437
    If it really bothers you, buy elevator shoes - I KNOW they are still
    being made since I have seen ads for them.  They add about 2" to
    your height, and come in several different styles.
    
    *I* don't care how tall or small you are, anyhow ;-)
    
    /Charlotte (just under 6' in my socks - never wear heels)
231.25"It just doesn't matter"NOVA::BNELSONCalifornia Dreamin'...Mon Mar 09 1987 18:0414
I once went on a date with someone who was taller than myself.  Being 6', it
had never happened before so I was a bit surprised.  But, after the initial
shock wore off ( took about 5 minutes I think ), it didn't bother me in the
least.  Actually, it was kinda nice getting 'crane-neck' looking up for a
change instead of looking down!  ;-)


Why worry about something that doesn't matter ( at least to myself )?!  Either
way, tall or short, the person will still be the same person.


Brian

231.26I don't really wear heels and it doesn't bother meNANOOK::SCOTTLooking towards the sunMon Mar 09 1987 18:5420


     Thanks for the ;-) Charlotte,

          Never thought about elevator shoes, but then  again  2"
     wouldn't be enough if I was worried or cared how short I am.
     Having never gone out with anyone  shorter  then  5'6"  I've
     sort  of  become  accustomed to going out with taller women.
     But would a shorter man (by 8") bother you?  If you  haven't
     tried it, then maybe you should.

          Another good point about being short - I don't have  to
     wade  out  into  the  ocean  as  far to start swimming or be
     clobbered by the waves.

     The sun was fantastic this last weekend,  got a tan while at
     the beach!!

     Lee
231.27prejudice?CGHUB::CONNELLYEye Dr3 - Regnad KcinTue Mar 10 1987 00:2614
If a man is more attracted to short women or a woman to tall men, why
take the attitude that that is such horrible prejudice (as some of the
replies seem to)?  For whatever reason, most individuals have a whole
raft of physical characteristics that they find more attractive in a
prospective mate.  What's wrong with that?

You may find yourself attracted to someone against the grain of those
"prejudices", in which case it would be pretty dumb to try to pretend
that it wasn't happening.  But you'll also meet plenty of intelligent,
warm and otherwise wonderful people who just don't do a thing for you
in terms of romance, sexual attraction, etc.  Trying to force yourself
to think of those people as attractive in order to prove your doctrinal
purity seems pretty dumb too!
231.28People come in all sizesCADSYS::RICHARDSONTue Mar 10 1987 16:2928
    The best dancer in my old folk dance club was my friend Doug, who
    is 5' 1 1/2" in his dancing shoes.  My 5'9" or so girlfriend and
    I both enjoyed dancing with him because he was a great dancer, but
    I have to admit that it waas hard to do certain movements because
    his arms were `too short', like turning under his arm.  Also, he was
    a good dancing teacher, but was sometimes a bit hard to follow because
    he tended to dance in socks (rather than dancing shoes) when he
    was teaching, and his feet were VERY small -- hard to follow him!
    
    Doug was a "tough customer", which I suppose is necessary for a
    man of his stature.  By the time he graduated from college, he had
    his "ten gallon" pin from the blood-doner drives - in spite of actually
    begin 1/2" too short to legally donate blood!
    
    I don't care, really, how tall or small you are.  I must admit that
    I am not really used to men that are taller than I am, so I feel
    a bit odd if I have to crane my neck up to look at a friend!
    One funny story: I have know Neil TLE::Faiman for years.  One Christmas
    break I stayed at his folks' house while working on campus.  One
    time Neil had me stand on the stairs so that we were eyeball-to-eyeball
    (Neil is taller than my brother! - must be 6'6" or so, aren't you?
    I KNOW you read this file!).  He stared at me and said "God, that's
    wierd!", and picked me up (!) and put me back on the floor so that
    our relative heights were back to normal (he is more than 7" taller
    than I am!).  I guess very tall men are also unused to having people
    be the same height as they are!  Neil's wife (Lynn) is very petite
    - I think she is about 5'2" or so, by the way.