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| 119.1 | A.F.F.A. | FDCV13::CALCAGNI | | Tue Oct 28 1986 15:25 | 30 |
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Just signed on after a few days off and found this new topic,with
no responses!!!
I figured it would have been hammered to death by now.
I've always found that too much of a good thing spoils it. When
it comes to some person (I use this term loosely) trying to tell
me what I can and can't read or see really gets to me!
You can call it flameing or whatever.
I cannot believe that perfectly sane people let a bunch of fanantics
attempt to impose their morals on anyone!
Damn it pushes me to the end to see someone who cannot control their
own lives try to restrict mine!
I love to read..and I censor what I read mainly because I dont
like certain stories dealing with children being hurt. My favorite
author right now is Steven King, but I wouldn't read Pet Semetary
because of this. BUT I censor myself not some "dogooder"!
The same with movies and magazines.I like Penthouse, Easyriders
but not Hustler, but I never impose my censorship on anyone else.
I put the whole thing as ..I firmly believe if we cut out this
censorship nonsense and got down to business we wouldn't have half
the problems we have now. The forbidden fruit syndrome.
So if I'm hurting noone then they all can go take a flying s***!
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| 119.2 | what am I???? | USMRW4::AFLOOD | BIG AL | Tue Oct 28 1986 16:03 | 20 |
| Well most people who know me well would classify me as a strong
conservative. Re: strong vs flaming
I'll be the first to complain about the goverment dictating how
I can live. I don't need a law to tell me I should wear seat belts
- I don't, I don't need Meese/falwell telling me what I can buy
and read/view - I do occasionally buy penthouse as well as occasionally
renting/recording an adult film.
Isn't it strange the the anti-gun proponents are considered liberals,
but the anti-adult reading/viewing/doing censoring group are
conservatives. Leaves me confused sometimes as to just what I am.
All I can say is let me choose that which I want as long as it doesn't
interfere with other people's choice of what they want to do.
Individual rights as opposed to group rights. Maybe I should be
a liberterian such as David Brudnoy.
al
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| 119.3 | Sounds like Bullsh*t to me... | HERMES::CLOUD | PCH 101, it's a way of life! | Tue Oct 28 1986 16:47 | 3 |
| fanatics/purists + overestimated statistics = panic/censorship
Phil
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| 119.4 | Don't Sing Wrong Either | TIGEMS::SCHELBERG | | Tue Oct 28 1986 17:42 | 10 |
| Yes, I got a little upset with people when they wanted to ban record
albums so "children" couldn't get a hold of them and also to stop
rockers from making the kind of music they wanted to with the lyrics
they wanted to.....I'm sorry but that's soooooooo extreme. You
can't dictate to people and besides I'm more worried about inflation
and economics then I am about what kind of song some rock group
has out that parents are up in arms about.....eeeeeeeeee gads!
bs
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| 119.5 | You need better terms for politics | MINAR::BISHOP | | Tue Oct 28 1986 18:06 | 26 |
| WARNING! **POLITICS*** WARNING!
The reason "conservative" seems contradictory is that the conventional
left-right scale does not capture enough of the variation in American
politics. A more sophisticated two-dimensional scale below (not
original with me) has one axis for desired level of control of
economic relationships, and one for personal acts:
High Personal Low Personal
Control Control
High Economic control +-----------------------------------
| Populists Liberals
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Low Economic control | Conservatives Libertarians
Or:
Liberals will let you smoke dope but won't let you own a cow,
Conservatives will let you own a cow but won't let you smoke dope,
Populists won't let you do either and
Libertarians will let you do both!
(Where "own a cow" means "run a business without EEO, minimum-wage
and other regulatory and legal constraints".)
-John Bishop
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| 119.6 | Words with many meanings=>confusion | ATFAB::REDDEN | Carbide tipped self-esteem | Tue Oct 28 1986 23:13 | 6 |
| RE: .5 Clear definitions
WOW!!! Finally, some language that can allow meaningful discussion
on the topic.
Thanks!!!
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| 119.7 | Gimme a break. | SWSNOD::RPGDOC | Dennis the Menace | Wed Oct 29 1986 19:59 | 8 |
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The news reports that I read indicated that "Wizard of Oz" was on
the hit list because it depicted a "good" witch and was therefore
advocating Satanism.
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| 119.8 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Reality is frequently inaccurate | Wed Oct 29 1986 20:13 | 13 |
| Not to mention the Satanic messages you get from playing the
"Theme from Mr. Ed" backwards...
Simplistic solutions from simplistic minds - this world is growing
too complex for many people to handle, and they naturally latch
on to "obvious answers" expressed by anyone who calls themselves
an authority.
I'd suggest that, as a start, anyone upset by the increase in
censorship, etc., consider supporting Norman Lear's group "People
for the American Way". I'm looking for their address to send them
a check.
Steve
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| 119.9 | Oz is about politics | BOGART::KRAVITZ | Terrapin | Wed Oct 29 1986 21:42 | 10 |
| The co-incidence of the descriptions of political types with
"The Wizard of Oz" reminds me that "Oz" is a political parable,
or fable based on (I think?) the Populist Movement (William Jennings
Bryant, etc.) and the move to (or away from?) the gold standard
for legal tender.
My memories of this are quite rusty, but I'm sure that "Oz" and
its follow-on books are not just fairy tales.
Dave
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| 119.10 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | The Mad Armenian | Fri Oct 31 1986 04:45 | 21 |
| re:.9
I believe that that line of thinking has been discredited. Some
people will read anything into anything. Someone I know once
put forth the thesis that Orwell's 1984 was about a utopian
society seen through the eyes of a paranoid, and was able to
defend that thesis quite well. He didn't believe it for a minute,
but was only demonstrating how one can make any sort of wild
interpretation of a work.
The reply about these people taking away free will (which in
essence means that they think they know better than God) makes
a very good point.
These people claim that they don't want their children (or others'
children) tempted by "evil" things. As far as I'm concerned, if
they bring up their children "right" (ie. what *they* think is
right and proper), their children will reject this material just
as they themselves reject it.
--- jerry
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| 119.11 | Count me in | CURIUM::JACKSON | | Sat Nov 01 1986 22:26 | 5 |
| Re: .8
When you find the address, please let me know.
--
Seth
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| 119.12 | | NY1MM::SWEENEY | Pat Sweeney | Sun Nov 09 1986 23:39 | 5 |
| People for the American Way
Post Office Box 37106
Washington DC 20013
and tell them Patrick Sweeney sent you...
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