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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

23.0. "the eyes have it" by KRYPTN::JASNIEWSKI () Fri Jul 18 1986 18:35

    
	Prompting this note is portions of two earlier responses to # 16 -

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    	I agree with the attractive powers that the eyes hold over one's
    own set of eyes.  In fact, I find myself quickly cutting away from any
    sort of intense mutual staring because I'm afraid I'll fall in love or
    at least be temporarily hypnotized (which is not too cool for a married
    man like myself).  There is a psychic bond somewhat akin to laser-beams
    that takes place when eyes connect in a mutual stare, which is infinitly
    more powerful than...
	
	and

	    Someone once said "The eyes are the mirror to the soul."	
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	I'm continually amazed at how accurate the above statements are. Lets 
talk about that. I've found - 

	a. Eye contact is really quite an intimate thing. If a "psychic" or
	sixth sense based connection actually is established, a lot of folks
	do not allow it to happen casually.

	b. I believe a 'special' connection does link up. Funny how it works
	off mirrors, thru sunglasses and even at near-right angles. I'm 
	wondering what is going on to make it so 'intense', 'infinatly 
	powerful' and so on.

	c. When someone 'quickly cuts away', their eyes hitting the floor or
	whatever, I take it as a rejection. I call it "soft rejection" as it
	is not as conclusive as getting slapped or spit at or told  "no 
	thank-you". But it is rejection, as the protocol was refused...

	d. Under the influence of alcohol, a lot of folks begin to allow
	that sort of 'intense mutual staring' that can be a precursor to 
	'falling in love' or whatever. Is it simply that their "less 
	defensive" and "more daring" at this time? I believe the alcohol
	is effecting a person more deeply than the "first-order" responses
	of being ballsy and/or letting your guard down.

	e. Ah yes, 'the eyes are the mirror to the soul'. How honest and true
	the information conveyed theiein. (unless you're a gambler!) Pity to
	those who have not learned to mask the scalding truth of their soul's 
	present state, or who have not effectively dealt with all the static
	going on upstairs. Thats where the line "he/she looked right through
	me" comes from.

	f. Various defenses, used by those who "are'nt so happy", can be
	sooooo devestatingly powerful. You can be sure h/she will never
	talk to you again - all you need is to give or recieve a few shots
	of the old *lightning* eyes. Perhaps a good, solid, instantaneous
	"cut to the floor" will wrap it up for you. I know that this action
	has a inverse; a smile and slight lift of the eyebrow is the accepted 
	exchange for greeting. Does this have the same magnitude of effect?

	g. So powerful is the langauge of the eyes that the uncorrelated 
	movements of a blind persons eyes is often hidden with dark glasses.
	Apparently seeing this can be upsetting to a lot of people.

	
	Its interesting that no one has treated this area of life as an
objective science and researched the facts. It seems that how well you make
use of this way to communicate is mostly a function of how "street wise" you
are. Innocence is obvious and easily taken advantage of. Anyone wanna play 
eyes?

	Joe 

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23.1I appologize if I have ever shunned anyone with my eyes.CSTVAX::MCLUREVaxnote your way to ubiquityMon Jul 21 1986 04:2739
re: 0,

	Having been quoted so generously by the author of this note-topic,
    I feel obligated to assist in continuing this discussion of eye-power.

	Eyes are incredibly overlooked (no pun intended) by even most experts
    in Communication theory.  I recall a Communication class I took in college 
    which dealt with various levels of communication (Meta, meta-meta, meta-
    meta-meta, etc.), as well as the effect that touching has upon people,
    but I don't recall getting too deeply into perhaps the most effective
    form of communication - eye-contact.

	From the time we are born, we (that are lucky enough to see) are
    taking everything in with our eyes.  Anyone recall seeing a baby who
    had anything but bright wide-open bug-eyes (when they weren't teared-
    over from crying), and who wasn't intensely watching anything interesting?
    Probably not.  There comes a time in everyone's life, however, when
    a person's defenses take over and those bright wide-open bug-eyes become
    much more squinted and shaded by frowns or sceptical expressions.  Sun-
    glasses merely offer a form of camouflage for one's eye-weapons.

	After having been trained "not to stare" for so many years, combined
    with learning the hard way a few times when you did anyway, I think it's
    easy to see why people are conditioned not to stare (especially not into
    someone else's eyes).  This is where the "if looks could kill..." phrase
    comes from; stares have a very similar meaning across cultures, as well
    as across species.  If you want to make an animal extremely nervous,
    simply stare at it with a contorted facial expression for awhile.

	I think eyes can be equally used as a positive force, but many people
    are too busy being on-guard out of habit to make use of their eyes in
    this way.  Obviously, when eyes do make the right kind of contact, then
    the results are quite satisfying!  Unfortunately, being hesitant with one's
    eyes at the very beginning of an encounter usually indicates an uneasy
    sense about the encounter, and tends to eliminate anything meaningful
    happening as a result of the encounter (unless this is interpreted as
    a sort of shy innocence - in which case it may prove fruitful).

						-DAV0
23.2Eye ContactEUCLID::LEVASSEURWherever You Go....There You Are!Mon Aug 04 1986 18:2134
        I agree on the "Eyes having it!" There are some poeple who's
    eyes you can ignore and oithers that rivet people. A few years 
    back I hung around withe a guy who had the most hypnotic eyes.
    Wherever we went he had people eating out of his hand by just
    looking at them. Ha had the kind of eyes that you just could not
    take your own off of.
        Some friends rell me I have angry piercing eyes, I cannot see
    it myself. If you look carefully you can see the pain in the eyes
    of someone who's had a hard life.
        Eye contact is another thing. I was active in a self help week
    end seminar and one littel exercise was for the group of 55-60 to
    just wander around the conference room and actively not notice any-
    one else. As time went on we were told in stages to look at more
    and more of our surroundings and to start making casual eye contact.
    Toward the end of the exercise we were told to now pick out one
    or two people and look intently at them as if there was a deep
    sexual desire. About 1/3 of the group freaked out and refused to
    carry on any further. After the exercise we broke up into groups
    and talked about how we felt. Many felt very uneasy having someone
    state at them, felt their privacy had been violated.
        Here's a little thing that you can use to tell if someone is
    really glad to see you. in Desmond Morris's book, "Manwatching"
    he mentions that in all cultures when two friends, lovers, etc
    approach each other, if they're happy to see the other person
    there will be an uncontrolled/unconscious brief raise of the
    eyebrows. An almost unnoticable look of surprise. I've observed
    this and it is correct.
        Even in interviewing, good eye contact is important in
    establishing interest on both people's parts. How many of you
    have been on interviews where the interviewer, was more inter-
    ested in the wall, floor or his/her watch than looking you in
    the face. Didn't leave ya feeling too wanted huh!
    
                                        Ray
23.3Fascinating...HERMES::CLOUDFull Boogie...too hip!Wed Aug 13 1986 00:178
         This is a VERY interesting subject...as I've had occasion to
    wonder what's really going on when there is intense eye contact.
    I am not familiar with the goings on surrounding this subject, but
    it does sound (to coin a phrase)...fascinating!  I hope there are
    more replies from people educated in the field.
    
    					Phil
    
23.5Pointer to a book on the subjectATFAB::REDDENFri Aug 22 1986 15:265
    In the book "Influencing with Integrity", Genie Laborde gives a number
    of specific things to look for in eye behavior - for instance, the
    direction in which the gaze is deflected suggests the type of cognitive
    representation system that exists behind the eyes.  Kinda mechanistic,
    but good stuff is left when you take the mechanism out.
23.6Ice blue eyes have it for meFULTON::JOYFri Sep 05 1986 19:2312
    Re: .2
    
       I know just what you mean about someone having hypnotizing eyes.
    I am currently dating someone who has the most incredible eyes,
    they seem to be able to look right into my soul. I find it very
    hard to look away when I make eye contact with him, its like falling
    into an icy-blue pond. Of course his eyes aren't the only reason
    I'm attracted to him, but they do seem to have a hypnotizing effect
    on me. I certainly have to agree that "the eyes have it".
    
    Debbie