Conference 7.286::maynard

    That's a good one, Frank.  I think it had something to do with the
    old mill days.
    
    Here's another trivia...........what year did MHS win the midland
    league championship (football), what year and who were the "Tiger
    team captains"????
    
    Debbie

    Frank,
    
    I think the whistles were blown at 12:10 to signal the end of lunch,
    during the olden days of the mill.  A tradition that's never passed,
    and a tradition that I temporarily grew to despise, while living 3
    houses from the fire station for a short period of time.  :-)
    
    re: football championship
    
    It was probably before my time, but there was a team in the early 80s
    that made it to the Central Mass. Div. I Superbowl.  I don't think they
    won the Midland League that year though.  If I'm not mistaken it was
    old nemesis, Milford that took the honors.  Probably sometime back in
    the late 30s?
    
    					Steve

    RE: .1 	My guess would be the team for the 1970 season. I remember
    great foolball players that year, Billy Watt, Billy Mullin, Sabu,
    majority of them Seniors who graduated in 1971, with you Deb!
    
    RE: .0	I would agree with .2 aobut the return to work part, but I
    believe the tradition continued, as the fire depatment is required to
    test the alarms on a regular basis.
    
    Life long Maynard resident whom is enjoying these trips down memory lane!
    Even though some of them go back further than I do!
    
    Norma (Dwinells) Donahue
    Norma (Dwinells) Donahue
    Norma

    Re: .3 Norma 
    
    That 1970 team (Class of '71) lost their first and only game of the 
    year to Milford by one point.  I think the score was 7-6.  Doug Roblee 
    could probably tell us more, as he was a member of the team.  
    
    That class also played a huge part in Maynard winning the Class E State
    Championship in track & field in 1971.
    
    					Steve

Well, I can't speak for the "old mill" days, but I understand the "noon"
whistle is a Fire Dept. test which is run each day *if* the whistle isn't
used earlier in the day.  If they had a fire in the morning, they wouldn't
blow the whistle again at noon.  To prevent people from becoming attached to
it as a timepiece - they whistle it 10 minutes after noon or so.

Could be a suburban legend though...


- dave

    Right you are, Steve! Doug was on that team! Sorry I didn't mention you
    as one of the greats, Doug!!
    
    I think everybody knew the team would go down in history as they had
    _so_ many good players in that class. Of course, MY class had
    Buckwheat, Scott Higgins, Mike Baio, to name a few...

    Nope........my class (71) isn't the oe I have in mind.
    
    Debbie

    The answer to the 12:10 whistle is:
    
    The Mill blew their lunch whistle at 12:00.  To avoid the obvious,
    the Fire Dept. decided to go to 12:10.  They have kept the tradition
    since.
    
    Keep the answers coming to the Football question.  I don't know the
    answer either, but I know my uncle Mike played on the 1931 Maynard
    High team that won the Midland League title and tied for first in
    the Middlesex League.  He was captain of the 1932 team that also
    won the Midland League team.  My father, Frank Sr., was on that
    team. 
    
    Wasn't there a Lauri Toivonen as captain as the undefeated 1938 team??  
    Debbie, are we getting close??  When I played (or tried to play),
    there were faded cards in the old Field House noting the score of
    each game that season.  
    
    Frank

    RE: 5
    
    The Fire Department would still run the test at 12:10PM no matter how
    many times the whistle would blow for a fire in the morning. It is the 
    SOP (Standard Operating Procedure), for the deskman at the station to blow
    the whistle twice at 12:10PM.  
    
    Unless a report of a fire came in at the same time, which has happend 
    before, instead of the 2 whistles, you would then hear 4 whistles - 4 
    times.  
    
     
    TRIVIA QUESTION:
    For a easy Trivia question:  Where was the location of the Old Fire Station
    before the Fire/Police Station was built on the corner of Summer and Acton 
    Streets.  
    
    .......
    Ken
    

    RE: .9	Hi, Old neighbor! Now I KNOW you aren't old enough to 
    "remember" where the Police Station was, so you probably got this
    tid-bit from your Mom, right? I know I'm older than you and I don't
    remember it being anywhere but on the corner of Acton and Summer.
    
    Norma (Dwinells) Donahue
    (formally of Hillside Street, ring a bell Ken?)

I would hope that they don't move the fire whistle to noon, as it would
interfere with the peal of the clock tower.

    
      Wasn't the old station at the intersection of Nason and Main next
    to the Union Congo. Church?  (The Old Factory Outlet?)
    
                   Mark

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    Here are two more trivia questions for you:
    
    The Maynard High School "mascot" is NOT the tiger.
    What is it?
    
    The Maynard town colors are NOT black and orange.
    What are they?
    
    
    Frank

re: .13

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    The answer to the second part of the question.
    
    	Town colors are Blue and White, which if I remember, it was 
        adopted in 1971 the year of the Centennial.

re: .13, .14

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    Blue and White town colors sounds right to me, as the graduating class
    of 1971 wore those same colors. Right Debbie?

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    Fire Station
    
    If I remember correctly, the fire station was on Nason Street
    approximately where the Paper Store is now.  It was a white wooden
    building with a cupola on the roof and a white snowey old lived there.
    
    I have lived in Maynard 28 years. I grew up in Sudbury and remember
    coming to Maynard on Thursday nights with my parents to shop for
    groceries at the A&P and what ever else we needed. Sudbury didn't
    have any sizable stores in the late 40's and 50's. Wow am I dating
    myself. Anyway, Maynard has always been a part of my life.

    The Town Colors question was answered right away in .14 and .15.
    Blue and White were adopted as town colors before the turn of the
    century.  Last year at town meeting, Phil Bohunicky presented the
    town with a beautiful blue and white town flag, which is in the
    lobby of the town building.
                                                                    
    Frank

    The original Fire Station was identified correctly in .16.  It
    was kept pretty much intact by Town Paint and Supply, which 
    was located where the new Paper Store building is now.
    
    The Police Department had a few locations prior to locating in
    the "Town House" (where the Post Office is now).  The Police
    were located on the left side of the building, at the corner
    of Main Street and Florida Road.
    
    The Town House, by the way, was originally a hotel, one of 
    several in downtown Maynard.  I'll talk about this some other
    time.
    
    Going back to the old Fire Station, the Police Lock-up was in 
    the rear of the building, abutting the railroad tracks.  The
    bars were still on the windows when Town Paint and Supply tore
    the building down.
    
    Maynard was the first town in the area to have full time Police
    and Fire Departments, dating back to the turn of the century.
    This was far ahead of our neighbor towns.  As an example, my uncle, 
    John McGovern, became the first full time police officer in Sudbury 
    in 1947.  He was also the first chief there, and served for over 
    20 years.
    
    Frank

    REF: .8 Frank, you're close.......Lauri Toivonen (my father) was
    the captain of the undefeated 1938 midland league championship,
    along with Danny O'Leary.  I should have been more specific since
    they've won more then one championship.
    
    REF: .13 The MHS mascot is: Gary Greenaway......I cheated on this
    and asked some former Tigers.   
    
    Ref: 15 geez Norma, I couldn't remember my class colors...isn't
    that terrible??? 
    
    Also, Frank you mentioned a diner "King Square" that your uncle
    owned, next to Grubers, right??? My parents had their store across
    the street and my dad, The Palmaccio's (Obergs) always had lunch
    there.  I remember them saying best sandwiches and burgers in town!
    
    Debbie

    Sorry, Frank, I made a mistake your grandfather owned the diner
    not your uncle.  
    
    Debbie

Who is Gary Greenaway, and why is he the mascot?

Why does Maynard's football team wear black and orange if the town colors have
been blue & white since the turn of the century?

Thanks,

Cliff

    Gary Greenaway is an avid sports fan whose home is behind the football
    field.  He is always at the field, no matter what sport is being played, 
    football, baseball, whatever.  Gary was grand marshall of the Little
    League parade in April.
    
    The school colors are black and orange.  We are the Maynard Tigers.
    
    Chris             
    

    
      Steve,
          I was a member of that team but saw very limited action...I
    played some defensive end...We indeed had a great team offensively
    and defensively...That team posted six shutouts I believe...We did
    however lose a opening game heartbreaker to Milford 14-12...Milford
    went on to take the state championship and finished undefeated....
    To this day amongst old friends we still talk about that game...
    
                                                       Doug

    Frank,
    
    Great idea- this Maynard trivia note!   Very interesting reading.
    
    I'd like to add my answer to two of the questions:
    
    - The MHS mascot is the Owl, as in wise as...  It was during the late
    50's that Coach Will DeRosa changed the mascot (for football anyway) to
    the Tigers.  After all, it's pretty difficult to get the cheerleaders
    and fans worked up to scream "Go Owls- Beat Marlboro".  It just
    doesn't have any punch.  Hence, Tigers.
    
    - Another Midland League champ was the 1958 team, captained by John
    White and Cyril Spratt.  Current MHS coach Ed Mullin was the QB that
    year.  It was, however, a three-way tie among Marlboro, Hudson, and
    Maynard.  That was also the year that Maynard finally beat Concord,
    after a drought of 20 years or so.  What a celebration that night in
    the old Milltown!

    Frank,
    
    This really has nothing to do with the trivia stuff, but I thought you
    might find it interesting to know that my father was the first hired-on
    police officer to work with your uncle, John McGovern. His name is
    Ernie Ryan and was promoted to sergeant and then acting chief after John
    retired. He was never officially appointed chief because he too decided
    to retire with about 21 or so years in. Anyway it certainly is a small
    world.
    
    Barbara

    There is much confusion regarding the Tigers and Black and Orange.
    Since I started this, here's what I know:
    
    When I was a sophomore (in 1964) we decided to start a "School Ring"
    tradition, rather than having each class design it's own "Class Ring"
    as had been done previously.  I was on the Ring Committee and remember
    the experience painfully.  Our original design had an "M" on one side 
    of the ring and a Tiger on the other side.  We were vetoed by the School 
    Committee, and particularly Mr. Mattioli, the High School Principal, 
    who pointed out, quite bluntly, that the official High School mascot 
    was the Screech Owl (as in the yearbook Screech Owl) and that the 
    Tiger was the "Sports" mascot.  Since we were moving to the new High
    School the next year, our second choice, the George Washington 
    Auditorium facade, was not appropriate.  We settled for a rather non-
    descript reveal of the front doors of the new high school.  We were
    disappointed to say the least.  
                                          
    QUESTION:  Is this school ring still being used?  
    
    Frank
    
    

    Regarding . 24:  Hey, are you Gerry Dee or Sandy Dee?
    
    Anyhow, thanks for the reply.  The Tigers of the late 50's were the
    golden years of Maynard High School Football, and for those of you
    who attend high school games today, imagine 5,000 fans for Hudson,
    Marlboro, Concord and Clinton games!!  AND a 100 member Maynard 
    High School Band !  I'm not making this up.
    
    I can't verify the origin of the Tigers as the Sports team mascot,
    but I will always hold Will DeRosa in the highest regard ( he was 
    elected to the Mass. Coaches Hall of Fame last year, and I got a 
    chance to talk to him last fall and thank him for all he did for
    me when I was a mixed up kid), but I THINK the Tigers date back to
    the 20's.  I have a picture of my father in a Maynard team photo
    from 1934, and it looks like they were wearing uniforms with 
    striped sleeves (like the Princeton University Tigers).
    
    Frank

Back in the late 30's when my father played MHS football team was the
    "TIGERS"!  I also, have some of those old team photo's - my father
    would never part with them!  
    
    Debbie
    

    Frank,  this is Jerry.  How have you been?  
    
    We need an old MHS sports historian like Al Cowles or Charlie Manty to
    confirm just when the Tigers became the official mascot.  I too have
    photos of '30s and '40s teams that show "stripes" on the uniforms but I
    don't think they were ever referred to as the MHS Tigers.  In my
    Freshman year at MHS we wore the old "Princeton Tiger" striped jerseys
    (they could have been the same ones your father wore, they were so old
    and faded) but we never referred to ourselves as the Tigers.  
    
    It was the next year (1958) that Will DeRosa installed a "new look" in
    uniforms (low cut shoes for running backs, new suspension-type helmets
    to replace the old "Notre Dame" leather variety, and snazzier jerseys. 
    To complement the new look, he and Fred Capone, sports editor of the
    Beacon, came up with the "Tigers" to combat the Hudson "Hawks" and the
    Marlboro "Panthers"- two arch rivals.  Fred Capone carried the Tigers
    theme heavily throughout the sports pages- in fact, through the entire
    paper.  It was "Tiger prom this Friday", "Tiger band marches in Waltham
    parade", "Tiger math team wins district competition", etc.
    
    So, although MHS may have looked like Tigers earlier, I believe the
    first references began in '58.  I see Bob DeRosa, (Will's son) checks
    into this file once in awhile; maybe he can add to this discussion.
    
    Jerry    

    Frank, you've got some great trivia!!!! anymore???  I love this
    stuff, but I'm driving everyone crazy, I called my father today,
    "were you a "TIGER" or weren't you"???  
    
    As far as my guess on the "mascot" I think Gary does deserve some
    recognition - he's on of the most dedicated, devoted enthusiastic
    fans of the Tigers I've ever seen.  I'm happy to hear that Chris
    mentioned that he was a grand marshall in a parade.  All the Tigers
    I knew appreciated Gary.
    
    Keep it coming.
    
    Debbie
    
    But the screeh owl how obvious!  

    How about this-  In my day, Maynard High seemed to be the only 
    one around with it's own school hymn, which was played at halftime
    at every football game, at graduation, etc.  I even have it on a
    Maynard High School Band Record album. 
    
    It is unique in that has an original melody, not just words added 
    to an existing song.
    
    The words and music were written by a Maynard High School teacher
    in the 1930's.  Hint: his name is mentioned elsewhere in these
    trivia notes.
    
    Can you name him?
    
    A bonus- what are the words to the hymn?  (no cheating!)
    
    Frank

    Frank,  this is what I remember of the school hymn:
    
    
    To the glory of our school
    We raise our voices to the sky
    We pledge our faith and homage ever
    Wher'evr our duty ever lies  (something like that)
    And in the tuneful chorus blending
    Her faith and honor never die
    To thee our dear old Alma Mater
    Our dear old Maynard High
    
       by Charles Manty  (former science teacher)
    
    Jerry

    First reply to the High School Hymn is a winner!
    
    Jerry's got it, folks.  A graduate of the class of '61 with a 
    mind like a steel trap!!
    
    Hey, you forgot the "RAH, RAH, RAH" at the end!
    
    Frank
    

    Here's a tough trivia question:
    
    What is the Maynard Town Motto?
    
    There's an interesting twist to this, in that until 1975, it was
    spelled incorrectly!!
    
    Frank

>    What is the Maynard Town Motto?

    I've seen Progressum Cum Stabilitat, or something like that written in
    a number of places. if that's it, and it means what I think it does,
    it's an interesting motto: progress with stability. we'll change, but
    not too quickly!

    					-- hs 

    ANSWER TO THE TOWN MOTTO QUESTION:
    
    I can't find the origin of the Town Motto, but I think I'd be safe
    in stating that it goes back to the turn of the century.
    
    As Hal pointed out in .35 the motto is:
    
    "Progessus Cum Stabilitate" (Progress with Stability).  You'll find
    this on the town seal.
    
    The story behind the story is that until 1975, the motto was 
    incorrectly worded "Progressus Cum Stabilitas" which managed to 
    slip by many, many classes of MHS Latin classes until one Steve
    Wagner pointed it out to me one night at a Conservation Commission 
    Meeting (we were both members at the time).  Horrified by the 
    error, Steve got this corrected.
    
    The "new" town seal featuring the Town Clock, by the way, was 
    taken from the reverse side of the Centennial Celebration Town
    Coin, issued in 1971 (which had the *incorrect* wording).  The
    front side featured a likeness of Amory Maynard with a background
    of the outline of the Maynard town border.
    
    One of the nicest town seals I've ever seen, by the way.
    
    Oh, for those of you really into trivia, the time on the Maynard
    Town Seal Clock is frozen at 2:00, which is believed to be the
    time of the actual incorpration of the Town.  The "Digital"
    version of the Town Clock, used on all Digital awards and
    literature, is 5:10, which is believed to the time of the 
    incorporation of Digital.
    
    I think.
    
    Frank 
                          
    

    RE: 36
    
    Frank, you are correect on the times.  If I remember correctly, I
    believe Gerry D'Erico a Maynard resident, had something to do with
    the design of the coin, and the "New" Town Seal.  Gerry also designed
    the old blue style patch for the Fire Department.
    
    
    	........
    	Kenny 

    Let's dig deep into Maynard history for this trivia question:
    
    At the turn of the century, Maynard was a hot-bed of sports.
    We had hockey leagues, soccer, rugby, and gymnastic competitions.
    
    We even had a Cricket Club, which existed for many years.
    
    Where was it located?
    
    Frank

    I just thought of another trivia question.  
    
    When was the first night football game played at Alumni Field?
    
    
    Frank

    Regarding the Town Motto discussion, I thought I was getting my 
    Stabiltate's and Stabilitas's mixed up when I noticed on Memorial
    Day that the Police and Fire Equipment all have the incorrect
    " Progressus Cum Stabilitas" on their town seals.
    
    When I got home I checked the latest Town Report and By-Law Books.
    They both have the corrected " Progressus Cum Stabilitate".
    
    I'm sorry I started this whole thing in the first place!!!
    
    How about we just say "Progress With Stability" and be done with it?
    
    Frank

    It's been a week and either you're all stumped or it was a lousy
    trivia question, so the answer to the Cricket Club question is 
    that for many years in the late part of the 1800's and early part
    of this century, the Maynard Cricket Club operated on land now
    occupied by the Green Meadow School.
    
    Frank

    I'm not ready to give up on the first night football game played
    at Alumni Field since I KNOW some of you must have been there.
    
    Here are some hints:  The first game under the lights did not
    involve High School teams, and it was long before the present
    lights were installed.  There was also a very large crowd on
    a very, very cold night.  Most everyone who came were there 
    for the curiosity of the lights, not the competition, and we
    all left at half time, frozen!
    
    Is this any help?
    
    Frank
    
    

    Thanksgiving Pond is well known in Maynard history as a favorite
    skating spot.
    
    Where is it?
    
    Hint:  The area is becoming quite popular on Saturdays these days!

    Thanksgiving pond:  Up near the town barn.  I do often wonder though,
    how it got its name?  Was that going to be your next question, Frank?
    
    					Steve

    re: The first night football game at Alumni Field.  My  guess:
    
    The game took place during 1962 (or '63?) between two teams from the
    Boston Park League.  One team was the Brighton Knights- not sure who
    the other team was.  There were a few Maynard guys that played for
    Brighton, including Harry Hatch.  
    

    
    Great notes file.... Being a former Maynardite you really find out how
    much you do or do not know about a place that you live all your life.
    
    As for the Maynard mascot I don't think anyone would disagrue that Gary
    is the most inspirational person in Maynard sports. As a younger
    brother to Gary I know when I played sports for Maynard when we lost
    he wouldn't talk to me for days. 
    His bed room is full of Maynard sport memorabilia. Gary is a true tiger 
    fan first. So I give my 1 vote for mascot to Gary.
    
    Keep this notes file going. Thats my 2 cents worth.
    
    dave g.
           
    

    Jerry Dee has it again.
    
    I'm not sure whether it was '62 or '63, but I lean toward '63.
    
    The two teams were the Brighton Knights and the South Boston Chipewas
    of the Boston Park League.  Larry Casalinouva's (Maynard High '66)
    dad was involved in the Boston Park League before he moved to Maynard
    and organized the game, which involved four sets of temporary lights.
    
    The lighting was great, the game was n!
    
    Frank

    Steve in .44 has the answer to Thanksgiving Pond.
    
    Steve, I don't know the history behind the name, but I'l ask 
    Elizabeth Schnair when I pick up the Sunday paper this week.
    Her family owned a farm nearby before the Government evicted 
    them for the Ammo Dump.  She should know.
    
    Fran
    

    Thanksgiving Pond:
    
    I believe the name came from the fact that it usually was the first
    large body of water to freeze over, and that it was mostly around the
    Thanksgiving holiday.  The pond is/was surrounded by tall trees and
    never received much sun, so it could be possible.  We used to play a
    lot of pond hockey and you could usually count on Thanksgiving Pond to
    be frozen, even when others, such as the Rod and Gun were not.
    
    Of course, that was in the days when the temps were always below zero, 
    it snowed six feet each snowstorm, and we walked four miles to school,
    uphill, both ways...at least that's what I tell my children.

    I'm glad that someone else agrees with me on the masoct! Thanks,
    Dave.   I guess I caused some confusion here......as Frank asked
    who the MHS mascot was and I thought of course sports (wonder where
    I get that from???).  BUT, some of the people I ask say that the
    owl is a symbol???  Also, back to the Tiger thing,  Frank, I just thought
    of this.......I don't think my fathers old team pictures say "MHS
    TIGERS" wouldn't you think that would be on them if they were the
    Tigers???
    
    Also I knew the answer to the cricket club but just didn't have
    the opportunity to reply.
    
    Frank, what about your history file.......I always enjoy reading
    that!  Haven't seen anything on it lately.
    
    Debbie
     

    re: .47  Frank, how do you know Larry? He's my brother-in-law and I
    didn't even know the story behind the first night game.

    Norma (Dwinells) Donahue

    Here's a little trivia question that dates back a few years but
    may be of interest to some:
    
    There is a street in Maynard, about 1500 feet long, with 6 or
    8 houses, that NOBODY lives on.  All the houses front on other
    streets so while it exists as a street, nobody came claim it 
    as an address.  It is paved, and regularly driven on, but no
    one lives on it, and never has, and probably never will.
    
    What's the name of this street?
    
    Frank
    
    

    The Assabet Valley Little League was formed 40 some years ago.
    When I played in the late 50's to early 60's, there were two
    divisions- Majors and Minors.  The Majors played on what is now
    the Minor League Field at Alumni, and the Minors played at Wilson's
    Field on Summer Street (now occupied by two houses and Howard Road) 
    and the Bradley Lane Field in Stow.
    
    There were six teams in the Majors, and I played for the Sparks,
    which was coached by a young Digital employee named Bob Graham.
    (Yes, 31 years ago!)
    
    What were the names of the other five Major League teams?  All have
    now adopted real major league names like Phillies, Cardinals, and
    Dodgers, so there's no hint there.
    
    I need help with this, because I can only remember four.   
    
    Frank

    I knew there was something I liked about ya, Frank.  I was a Spark too!
    Even though we were called the Sparks throughout my Little League
    career, most of the teams had already changed.  The one I do remember
    was Erickson's.  Did the Co-op have a team?
    
    					Steve

    Frank,
    
    I can only remember four teams also:
    
    	Sparks  (Rotary Club)
    	Elks  
     	Timkeneers (Bursaw Gas & Oil) 
    	Miners  (Maynard Oil)
    
    Were those your four?
    

Cleveland Street in the "New Village"?

Roberta

    Second vote for Cleveland Street. This happens to be
    my husbands' Eds favorite Maynard Trivia question, we
    live right across the street from it.

    
    
    	I'm surprised it took me this long to get into this note file.
    	I've been reading it for awhile but never wrote in.  Regarding
    	a few of the trivia questions:
    
    		Yep, Thanksgiving Pond got it's name because it was 
    		always (yep always, I had my father drive me up to
    		check it every Thanksgiving on my way to my grandmothers
    		to see if it was frozen) frozen, barely!  Many a hockey
    		game was played on there.  I remember there were some
    		houses or cottages back in woods....never knew who owned
    		them or lived there.
    
    		First night game at Alumni field: I was there....IT
    		WAS COLD!!!!!  I also remember some guy breaking his
    		leg in that game.
    
    		Little League Teams:  The PALS!  John Gudzinowicz drafted
    		me out of the minors (I was on the DIGIT's, sponsored by
    		you know who!).  The first year on the PALS I shared 2nd 
    		base with Allie Sale and Chuckie Barilone.  I remember
    		being 10 years old and having to get up and bat against
    		Eddie France....I was scared sh*t!).
    	
    		Other minor league teams were the Bee's	(Morgie, weren't 
    		you a Bee?), the Jets, the Hi-Fi's (sponsored by H.H. Scott), 
    		the Comminsky Builders (lousy uniforms). 
    
    		That's about it for now....I won't be a stranger so long
    		next time.
    
    		Steve (one of the Buscemi's!)
    
    	

    So far, using my memory in yours, I think I have all six major
    league teams:
    
    PALS	Purple colors		Police Athletic League 
    ELKS	Red colors		BPOE (not best players on earth)
    SPARKS	Maroon colors   	Maynard Rotary
    C0-OP	Green colors		United Cooperative Society
    TIMKINEERS  Black colors		Was it Bursaw?  
    MINERS	Blue colors		I thought this was Eriksons
    
    The sponsors are still confusing to me.  It would make more sense
    for the Miners to be sponsored by an Oil Company, but I know that
    Erikson's picked up a team somewhere along the way.  The Timkineers
    were better known as the Tin Cans, and the more I think about it,
    the Bursaw name sounds right.
    
    In my days the ELKS and PALS were the best, the Miners and Sparks
    usually the worst. 
     
    By the way, my step-brother, Fred Gould convinced Digital to sponsor
    a team and named the Digits.
    
    At this years Little League parade, the Selectmen, as is custom, all
    took turns throwing out the first ball.  Bill King took two trys to
    get the ball to the plate!  Afterward, Russ Salamone and I (we both
    help (?) coach the Cardinals) were kidding him and discovered that
    ALL three us were former Sparks!  Poor Bob Graham!!  And you too,
    Steve??  How did he ever put up with the likes of us for 31 years??
    
    Frank

    The street I had in mind was indeed Cleveland Street.  
    
    I thought it would be tougher than that!!!
    
    Great job.
    
    Frank

    Steve B. maybe you can help me on this one.  Who was the coach with
    John Gudz.......was it by any chance Fred Sarvela?   I remember
    my cousin (Rick Sarvela) playing for a little league team and his
    father Fred and John Gudz were the coaches.  Can't remember if it
    was the pals, but I sure do remember the little league picture!!!
    
    Debbie

    
    	Geez, it might have been Fred.....that was so long ago.  I only
    	remember John G.  I remember how happy I was that I got picked
    	to play on the PALS!  They were pretty good back then.  I only
    	remember a few of the "older" players on the team then...Wayne
    	Kush,  John Gudz Jr....that's about it.
    
    	Of course everyone remembers what the announcer said on a foul
    	ball out of the field, "Please return that ball....Thank You!"
    

    Steve, I still get a few heads turning when a foul ball is hit 
    today and I say " Please return that ball....Thank you"  My kids
    can't believe that we actually had a public address system in
    the "old days".  
    
    For those of you who weren't around, the present minor league field
    was for years the major league field ( the present major field didn't
    exist until about 10 years ago).  Directly/attached to the backstop
    of the now minor league field was the concession stand which had
    a long, screened opening that allowed for an announcer to introduce
    players.  Also, the outfield fence had advertisements all around 
    and we had dugouts on each side.  All the above are long gone.  As
    a matter of fact, the present major league field had the roofs removed
    from the dugouts this year, which didn't make much sense to me.
    
    By the way, there seems to be more room next to present major league
    field going down the driveway to the High School.  Sure would be
    nice to have another field, perhaps for farm league or T-ball.....
    
    In my opinion, the AVLL has an excellent facility at Alumni Field,
    with three quality fields (thanks to some hard work) and two batting
    cages with pitching machines).  The work done this past year in 
    reclaiming the infields by rototilling the skin parts revealed the
    excellent playing surfaces installed years ago which had become 
    overgrown with weeds.  Normal maintenance in future years with some
    fall reseeding will keep these fields going for years.
    
    Now, about Crowe Park......
    
    Frank

    
    In reference to the Maynard Tigers, Jerry Dee hit it right (221.29).
    In around the 1958 time frame Dick Lawson, Fred Capone and my father
    came up with the name Tigers. Somehow the "Owls" just didn't make
    it when you are playing the Panthers or the Hawks. My father and
    I talked about this when I visited my parents in Maine this past
    weekend.
    
    My 2 cents
    Bob
    

    I've been very busy lately with Charter Commission stuff, but
    how about another trivia question?
    
    Many of the business buildings in downtown Maynard have names.
    
    One of the central focal points in town, in terms of both 
    commerce and social significance, until the mid 70's was the 
    Halladay Building.
    
    The building still exists today, under a new name and a new and
    ugly (if I'm allowed to say that) facade.
    
    Three part question:
    
    	1.  Where is (or was) the Halladay Building?
    
    	2.  What were the three stores that made up the Halladay
    	Building during the 50's to 70's?
         	
    	3.  What is this building known as today (besides ugly)?
    
    Frank
    
                                                   

    Considering your emphasis on ugly, Frank, I'd have to say the answer
    is the lawyer's office next to the Outdoor Store, where the Mail Box 
    store was or is.  I've seen better looking tree houses for cryin' out
    loud.
    
    					Steve

    Firestones was the center store in that block, the store on the
    corner had alot of occupants, the last being a womens clothing
    store, the other is a blur.  Am I right???
    
    Brigit

    The word "ugly" must have been TOO good a clue....
    
    The Halladay Building (and I can't find Halladay anywhere in Maynard
    history) is now the Sokoloff Building on Nason Street next to the
    Outdoor Store.
    
    During the 50's to early 70's, this block contained Hawes Florist
    (originally owned by L. Roy Hawes, but operated for many years by
    Victor Tomyl who regularly conducted local political discussions
    while making funeral wreaths until he moved the shop to Powder Mill
    Road, where he can still be found conducting local political 
    discusssions while making funeral wreaths), the legendary Acme
    Supply/Firestone Store, owned and operated by Tony Sebastyn and
    his brother John Sebastynowicz (don't ask), ad Aubuchon's.
    
    Firestone's was the focal point in downtown Maynard in this era,
    much like Notar's Center Store in Acton and Anderson's Market in
    Concord in the same timeframe.  The life and character of each
    town seemed to disappear when these stores closed.
    
    Aubuchon's is an interesting story.  Our's was the 13th store in
    a chain of what is now over 75 stores.  When forced to vacate their
    Nason Street location, they spent two years trying to find another
    location in Maynard, before finding a spot on Naylor Court.  They
    re-established this store as #13 in honor of the long history of
    service to the town, a fact that only low badge numbers in Digital
    could appreciate....
    
    As for the Sokoloff Building.........In my opinion, this is a 
    monument to the DE-vitilization of Maynard.  Only my opinion as
    a Maynard resident, not as a Digital employee so as not to cause
    this conference any hardship.
    
    Frank

I actually kind of like the appearance Sokoloff building - it keeps the
town from looking like a scene from an american version of Brigadoon,
and lets people know that there is still enough vitality in the town to
warrent the occasional new construction.  That, and I like bricks
(which is why I work in the Mill).

Now, if only it weren't vacant...

What I *don't* like is:
	- The flourscent tubes in the window of the Copper Kettle.  Gawk!
	- Pink Stucco pseudo-chinese restraunts.
	- Vacant storefronts of any appearance.

Do you have any idea how much prime retail space is vacant in Maynard?

From memory:
	- The entire "mall".
	- The old True Value (Formerly Mannings).
	- The previous Video Paradise location (60 Main).
	- A small shop on Main St. next to the cleaner/Tux shop.
	- The new space adjacent to BayBank.
	- The old Century-21 space next to Brother's fish and Pizza.
	- The non-lawyer half of the Sololoff building.

I'm sure there's more.  Can't we get Lechmere or Sears to move into
the Mall?

    Jeff and others:  As one who has been guilty in the past of combining
    notes and/or placing replies in inappropriate topics, before this note 
    takes off in the wrong direction, I suggest we use Note 234 for comments 
    on what looks nice and what does not, and maybe open a new note for 
    suggestions on the contents of the Mall?  I'll open this now assuming
    the Moderator approves these suggestions.
    
    Mr. Moderator: should .70 be moved to 234 also?
    
    Frank  

    The issue of the origin of the Tigers has been referred to the 
    Ultimate Expert- Ralph Sheridan, for a ruling.  I spoke with
    Elizabeth Schnair this morning and she says the Football team
    was called the Tigers when she graduated in 1935.  She'll check
    with Ralph, who unfortunately is not feeling well right now.
    My wife's uncle, George Novick, says it was the Tigers in 1944
    when he graduated.
    
    It may be that the 1958 Will DeRosa origin and the '30s origin
    are both correct, in that the Tiger name might have been lost in
    the post war years when Maynard sports hit a low point.  Mr.
    DeRosa might have revived the Tiger name in the late 50's I n
    some old yearbooks from the early 50's there was no reference to
    Tigers or any other nickname for the football team.  The Basketball
    and Baseball teams in the early 50's were called the Owls.
    
    More later,
    Frank

    Please refer to 221.59.  This is an update on the AVLL.
    
    I finally found one of my most treasured possessions, my 1961 SPARKS
    yearbook, while preparing for a Gould/Ignachuck family reunion.
    
    The six teams that year were:
    
    Timkeneers	11-4
    Pals	11-4
    Elks	 9-6
    Miners	 9-6
    SPARKS       5-10
    Co-op	 4-11
    
    The Tin Cans won the play-off with the Pals to get first place.
    
    The funny part is that I really thought I did better than a .156
    batting average and a 1-4 pitching record.  I guess 29 years does
    things to your memory.....
    
    Oh well, I ONLY made 11 errors and I stole 2 bases!!  No wonder the
    Red Sox never called.....
    
    Frank
    
    

    To answer part of the question concerning the picture in MRO3.  I have
    not seen this picture for a couple of years.  Some of the players I
    remember are: John LeSage (my brother), Steve Buscemi, his father Lou
    was the manager and Arthur Lesage was a coach.  I could name most of
    the players if I could see the picture again.

    Remember this note??  I have been busy and have not had any time to
    keep up with trivia, but how about cranking this up again?
    
    Here's a start:
    
    When I was not-so-young, the best pizza in town came from a place
    that was officially known as the Pizza and Spaghetti House, later
    known as Dick's Pizza and Spaghetti House.  It was on Nason Street,
    where the China Ruby is now.  The building burned down in the late
    60's, and also housed the famous Priest's Cafe and Bracken Heating
    and Plumbing.  
    
    Now for the question:  For some ungodly reason, I can still remember
    the phone number for the Pizza House.  Can anyone else?  
    
    Frank

    Referencing 221.75, when the phone systems were converted from
    operator assistance to rotary dial, each exchange was given an
    acronym-type word to identify the exchange.  Follow me?
    
    
    Please name the town associated with the following words:
    
    1.  EMERSON
    2.  COLONIAL
    3.  TWIN OAKS
    4.  HILLTOP
    5.  TWINBROOK
    
    
    Remember the carpet cleaning commercial -
    
    How many cookies did Andrew eat?
    
    Andrew ate 8000
    
    How do you keep your carpets neat?
    
    Call ANdrew 8-8000!
    
    Frank

    Frank,
    
    You're dating yourself!  I haven't the slighest idea of the Pizza House
    number, but I do agree it was the best in town.  If I remember right,
    they had square pizzas, correct?
    
    >Please name the town associated with the following words:
    
    >1.  EMERSON
    >2.  COLONIAL
    >3.  TWIN OAKS
    >4.  HILLTOP
    >5.  TWINBROOK
    
    Concord, Acton, Maynard, Sudbury and would venture to guess that
    Twinbrook was Stow.
    
    					Steve

    The pizza house burnt down in the early 70's
    

    RE: .76
    
    Nope, TWinbrook was Waltham.
    
    dm

    But we do remember the andrew jingle ...
    
    Olympic and Trinity

    Answers to the Phone Exchanges:
    
    Steve (.77) has the first four:
    
    EMerson = Concord (369)
    COlonial = Acton (263)
    TWinoaks = Maynard (897)
    HIlltop = Sudbury (443)
    
    DM has TWinbrook which is Waltham (894)
    
    Phil (.80), Olympic and Trinity beat me...
    
    How about some more.  Hudson, Marlboro, Littleton, etc.
    
    Frank

    OLympic = Natick
    TRinity = Framingham
    
    Phil

    Marlboro
    
    HUntley (485)
    
    This was when marlboro had only 1 exchange.
    
    
    edh.

    
     In regards to Maynard football, how did the GUTSO GUS award come
    about? Who thought it up and is it still given out today? I believe
    it was given to the player who had the most outstanding day defensively.

    Doug, not sure of the origin (goes back to the early 60's) but you're
    right in saying that it went to the best defensive player of the game.
    
    Now that I think about it, didn't the Beacon have a Gustso Gus Award
    each week?   I think it is long gone.....
    
    The Band had a "Go Gutsos" cheer for many years, that was used when the
    Tigers were on defense.
    
    I defer to Mr. Dee who knows all.  
    
    Frank

    RE: .83.. I was confused about HU.  If Marlboro was HUntley, then 
    Littleton must have been HUnter.
    
    I can understand COlonial in Acton and EMerson in Concord.  And
    I always thought that TWinoaks in Maynard somehow related to Uncle
    Pete's Twin Tree Cafe (later Alphonse's Powder Mill and still later
    the Elks), but who or what was HUntley?  And where was Brinkley?
    
    Frank

    In regard to GUTSO-GUS...
    
    Didn't Mr. DeRosa (who also taught history/civics)think that up??
    
    
    Linda (Calabria)Vinciguerra
    class of 65

    Linda, I think you're right.  Harry Larson was the Defensive
    Coordinator when Gutso Gus was at it's peak, but I believe he
    came along after the name was created.
    
    Frank

    While on the subject of Gutso Gus, here's a trivia question about
    Maynard Football:
    
    Harry Larsen was the High School Gym teacher for many years.  Before
    coming to MHS, he was known by another first name.  What was it and
    why did he change it when he came to Maynard?
    
    Frank

    
     Frank...
             Could that first name be Dick, and the reason he changed
    it was because there was also a Dick Lawson who was also affiliated
    with Maynard athletics??

    Re: .90:  Doug, nice catch!  Harry Richard Larsen used his middle
    name and was known as Dick Larsen until he came to Maynard.  The
    MHS Athletic Director at the time was Dick Lawson, and to avoid
    the obvious confusion, went by the name Harry. 
    
    Frank

    
    	I thought his other first name was "Heartless"??? ;^)
    
    	Steve
    

      Just recently discovered Maynard Trivia through my brother
    Harry Manuel (Class of '62).  Its great to the remember when....
    
    Re: 36  Story behind the motto....
    
       Yes the wording was found to be incorrect.  Let me back up and add to
    the story behind the story.  My husband Gerry entered the "design the
    Maynard Centennial Coin contest".  Before he submitted his entry, he
    tried to validate the correct spelling of the motto through different
    sources (i.e. schools, library, etc.) without results.  He even talked
    to one of the local priests (can't remember which one).  With the 
    deadline close, he submitted it anyway with the hopes it was correct.
    
    He won the contest and as they say 'the rest is history.
    
    p.s. On the clock side of the coin..... he drew the roman numeral
    IV.  Well needless to say, that was wrong too.  One of the old-timers
    in town pointed out that it should be IIII.  That too has been
    corrected.  Next time you look at the Mill clock, check it out!
    
    

    Thanks for the info and the story behind the story.
    
    The minor problems with the coin and the town seal do not in any
    way detract from the beauty of the design and the effect of the 
    *new* town seal, which is terrific!
    
    Everyone keep in mind that in 1992 we will (I hope) have a party
    to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the "Town Clock".  
    
    By the way, there is some confusion about the reference to the Clock
    as the "Mill Clock" versus the "Town Clock".  I would remind you the
    that the Clock was dedicated to the people of Maynard by Lorenzo 
    Maynard in honor of his father, Amory.  I suggest that the Clock
    be referred to as the "Town Clock".  
    
    Is there any way we could get the "Town Clock" on the Registry of
    Historic Whatevers for it's anniversary??
    
    Frank  

    Dusting off an old note on a Saturday night:
    
    I know of two streets in Maynard that have a beginning and an end
    but no middle.  In other words, you can enter each of these streets
    from two sides, but you can't go from one side to the other.
    
    Can you name them?  And are there any others?
    
    Frank

    I've just spent some time going through this note and I must mention
    that the famed Halliday Building (see notes .65 to .68) is up for
    auction.
    
    I don't mean to be unkind, but there is justice in this world after
    all............
    
    Frank
    

    >I know of two streets in Maynard that have a beginning and an end
    >but no middle.  In other words, you can enter each of these streets
    >from two sides, but you can't go from one side to the other.
    
    I know one of them, Frank.  Beacon St.  One end begins on Summer St. 
    then stops for about ~100'.  The other end is off of Florida Rd.
    
    I'll take a stab and say the other is Old Marlboro Rd.
    
    					Steve

    The other is Old Mill Rd. one end is off of Great Road and the othe is
    off of Waltham St.

    re: .97
    
    Mr. Morgan, take a prize at the door.  Old Marlboro Rd. is indeed one
    of those roads with 2 ends and no middle.  The first part starts on 117
    near Sudbury and ends on Parker St.  I used to live just about in the
    middle at the bottom of Woodridge Rd.   
    
    The other half starts about 1/4 mile down the Rd. (Ianuzzo's used to
    live near there) and it extends to the Military installation and beyond
    (I can't remember what the name of this is, my memory fades after 15
    years).  The Herricks used to live on this 'end' of the road.
    
    Interesting footnote...  what the heck, let's make it a trivia
    question...
    
    What famous poet or author wrote a short poem about this road?
    
    Wayne
    

    On second thought, Old Marlboro Rd. gets 1/2 point for partial credit.
    
    You CAN get thea' from heah' (contrary to the Maine phrase) in a
    straight line, it's just not contiguous as you have to use Parker St.
    to do it.
    
    Wayne (again...)
    

    The answer to the dead in the middle street question is as follows:
    
    1.  The two that I had in mind were Beacon Street and Linden Street.
    2.  Old Mill Road is a third.
    3.  Old Marlboro Road does not qualify, since it has THREE sides today.
    	But I'll give partial credit because it gets cut off at Parker
    	Street.
    
    Actually, if you look at the old USGS maps, Old Marlboro Road has been
    really chopped up through the years.  It started in Concord, became
    North Road in Sudbury, and Great Road in Maynard, and then reclaimed 
    it's name as it left Great Road near the Asparagus Farm.  It got lost
    on Parker Street and got it's name back as it entered the Annex.  When
    it went into Sudbury (in the Annex) it was renamed Craven Lane and
    came out onto Hudson Road.  At this point it could have gone in one
    of two directions, either just to south of our White Pond Water Supply,
    where it is now called Bruen Road, or it could have followed Hudson
    Road to a point where the present Marlboro Road is in Sudbury.  In
    either case, it ends up being called Concord Road in Marlboro, and
    I think you can find it at the Marlboro Country Club.  
    
    Whatever it's now called, this road was the southerly route through
    what is now Maynard.  The other route through town, the northerly
    route, also has it's origins in Concord as Old Stow Road.  Old Stow
    Road went through the now or formerly W.R. Grace land and ended up
    as Concord Street and Summer Street in Maynard.  This route was used
    by the Assabet Village Minutemen during the April 19th, 1775 march.
    There is a marker on the green at Concord and Brown Streets noting
    this fact.
    
    The reason for these two routes, by the way, is that neither one
    required a bridge or an Assabet River crossing.  The southerly route
    was more popular since it was a more direct route to Marlboro.
    
    Frank
    

    There is another "dead in the middle" street that I drove over,
    or tried to drive over, last weekend.  Euclid Avenue has two
    starts on Florida Road, and both entrances are paved.  In the
    middle, between Central AutoBody and the old Maynard Coal Co.
    yard, the road is dirt, and can barely be navigated.  It isn't
    officially dead in the middle, but it's really close.
    
    
    Frank

    Let's try a another trivia question:
    
    There are two streets in Maynard with the same name, and they
    are about a mile apart.  I think that officially one is called
    a "street" and the other is called an "avenue". 
    
    Can you name it/them?
    
    Frank

re:Note 221.103 

>    There are two streets in Maynard with the same name, and they
>    are about a mile apart.  I think that officially one is called
>    a "street" and the other is called an "avenue". 
    
>    Can you name it/them?
    


ANSWER TO ONE IS:    WARREN STREET AND WARREN AVENUE.


Julian

    RE:  NOTE #221.103
    
    HI FRANK,
    
    THE OTHER IS:  WOLCOTT STREET
                    -
    
                &  WALCOTT AVENUE
    
    ADDED NOTE:
    
    As you are probably aware, there are 6 other streets/avenues/courts
    with the same name.  Should I name them--or guess?
    
    Virginia
    
    

Well, there's Garfield St and Ave.


Liz

    How about:
    
    Elm Street and Court
    Acton Street and Court
    
    Lin Snow
    

    Just to keep this going, don't forget Florida Road and Florida
    Court, Parker Street and Parker Place, Powdermill Road and 
    Powdermill Circle, Concord Street and Concord Street Circle
    (they could have done a better job with THAT one), Acton Street
    and Acton Court (goes behind Jarmos, in case you're a Maynardite
    rather than a Maynardian), Sudbury Street and Sudbury Court.
    
    North and South Streets aren't anywhere near East and West Streets.
    
    And while you're giving directions to some poor soul, don't forget
    that there are two Walcott's and a Wall Court.
    
    WE never said it would be easy living in Tigertown.
    
    Frank

    1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th.  Where's 4th St.?  I'm pretty sure it's the
    unpaved strip up in that area off Waltham St. but am not certain.
    
    					Steve

    I'm going to crank this up a notch.  Through revitalization, Nason 
    Street and Main Street became partially one-way streets.  
    
    Name two other streets in Maynard that are two-way and one-way 
    streets.
    
    Don't include "specific hour restrictions" that are in effect on
    streets like Park Street, B Street, Marlboro Street, North Street
    and South Street.
    
    Frank
    

    Another on the list of Streets and Courts are/is Dartmouth Street
    and Dartmouth Court.
    
    Frank

    Regarding .99:  Wayne, you asked a trivia question about a famous
    poet/author who wrote about Old Marlboro Road.  We give up.
    
    The age of the road would lead me to believe that the answer would
    be more likely to be Longfellow than Frank Zappa.
    
    Frank 

    Mill Street and Beacon Street???
    

Florida St

re: .110 BUILD::MORGAN

4th street was gobbled up by the abutters to the street.  I am not sure how 
they did it, but when I moved in, Tony Puleo lived on 4th street.  Now he lives
on 1st Street which mystifies me.  I would have thought that he was on 2nd
street. See P below.

  ________________________________ Waltham St
	|	|	|
	|<3rd	|<2nd	|<1st
	|	|	|
	|-------|-------+
	| ^4th P| ^1st^
	|	|
	|	|
	+-------+
	  5th

So, my understanding is that 4th street is no more.

Phil

    Regarding streets that are part two way and part one way:
    
    	.114- Mill Street is one.  This is very confusing, since it
    is two way from Main Street to SummerHill Road, and one way from
    Main Street to Pine Street, but you can enter Mill Street from 
    Great Road, although you cannot go from Great Road to Main Street.
    You must turn up Pine Street.  Get it?
    
    	      Beacon Street is two way on both sides (remember that it
    has no middle.
    
    	.115- Florida Road is another.  Two way from Summer Street to
    Railroad Street, but one way from Main Street to Railroad Street.
    
    Now, so far we have Main Street, Nason Street, Mill Street, and 
    Florida Road.  
    
    There is one more.  Hint:  It is a dead end street, and is very
    well known.
    
    Frank
    

    Although not a dead-end, what about Acton Street?  It's mostly two-way
    except for that little stretch between Cumberland's and Concord Street.
    
    Jerry

    I think Jerry's got you there, Frank.  There is another one-way/two-way
    that I think you were talking about, because you mentioned it being a 
    dead end. 
    
    Glendale St.  One way behind the Roosevelt School and two way by the
    Church of the Nazarene.
    
    					Steve

    Steve Morgan found the one (Glendale Street) that I hinted at and
    Jerry Dee found another that I missed.
    
    I *think* that's all there are.
    
    Frank

    Here's an obscure trivia question:
    
    Along Main Street at the Digital entrance at Building 21 there is 
    a row of small yews in various shapes and sizes.  They are well
    trimmed and very handsome.  
    
    These plantings are not in their original location.  
    
    Can anyone give us the original location of these shrubs and their
    original intended purpose?
    
    Frank

    Regarding the previous note (.121), I have learned that if you
    don't get any responses in one day, you should give it up.
    
    The yews along Main Street were originally planted on the hill 
    between the lower and upper Parking lots, and spelled out the
    word "digital".  I think that the idea was taken from the "dec"
    in shrubs in front of MKO1.
    
    However, after the plants were installed, the idea was vetoed,
    and the shrubs were re-transplanted rather hastily, along Main Street.
    
    Frank                                               

	How many streets change names as you travel along them?

	I can only think of 2 definites, which I'll share if noone answers
	within a day.  There's also one I'm not too sure about.

	John

    If you start at the police station, it goes from Acton Street to Hayes
    (sp?) Street to Brown Street all on Route 27.
    
    I can't think of any others right now.
    
    Lin
    

    As long as we are on the subject of streets.  Does anyone know the 
    procedure for getting a street name changed ?  I live on Acton Street
    in Maynard and feel that we should no longer have a street by that name 
    in this town after what happened last week.  I don't have a replacement
    name in mind but anything else would do.

    I'm not sure this counts. As you travel north on Brooks St., you come
    to a big intersection (Brooks, Mockingbird, Lincoln, Randall, Brigham).
    If you go straight through the intersection you're on Mockingbird.
    Brooks St. actually takes a hard left.
    
    It always struck me as a little dangerous that Brooks has the right of
    way (because it was there first, I guess.) All the other streets have a
    stop sign. Logically, Mockingbird should have the right of way.

re .125

You could always name it Augustine Road



<big grin>

liz

    re: .125
    
    A few thoughts came quickly to mind:
    
    The SHARE folks would approve of Boxboro Road.
    
    The SOS folks would keep the same name but make it one-way, out of
    town.
    
    And then there's the best one for all interests:  Unity Street.
    
    Jerry

    Again re: .125
    
    The process for changing the name of a street is actually very
    simple- an article is submitted to the voters at town meeting
    and a vote is taken.  If approved, the new name is registered in 
    the Registry of Deeds and that's it.  
    
    On the same subject, when a street is proposed for acceptance
    at towm meeting, the article CAN be amended and a new name 
    submitted.  I wish someone had thought of that when Rickey, Brian,
    Michael, etc. came up for acceptance.
    
    Frank  
    
    

    RE:  NOTE 221.123
    
    ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW:  CONCORD STREET BECOMES HIGH STREET
    TO THE TOWN NEXT TO US.
                                                            

    Here are two more trivia questions on street names:
    
    1.  Starting at the town line at the Maynard Motel, list the streets
    you would have to drive on to reach the Stow line, using Route 62.
    
    2.  Starting at the town border on the Sudbury line, list the streets
    you would have to drive on to reach the town to our north (I forget
    the name of the town) using Route 27.
    
    Frank                            

    RE: .128:
    
    Jerry, I like Unity Street!
    
    There is an historical precedence to changing a name.  Back in 1899,
    The Assabet Manufacturing Company failed and with the failure came 
    the loss of over $130,000 that the Mill workers had on deposit with
    the "Credit Union" in the Mill.  Blaming the Maynard family for the
    loss of their savings, the people of Maynard petitioned the State
    Legislature in 1902 (House Bill #903) for approval to change the name 
    of the Town to "Assabet".  After many debates, a State Legislature
    sub commmittee voted 69 for and 79 against the petition, and we 
    remained MAYNARD.
    
    [see page 101 of "The History of the Town of Maynard" copyright 1971
    by the Town of Maynard Historical Society for more details]
    
    Frank

    Re: .131
    
    Frank, this question is a little easier than the spreading yews; talk
    about obscure!
    
    From the Maynard Motel:   Powdermill Road- Waltham St- Summer St- Nason
    St- Main St- Great Road.
    
    From the Sudbury line:  Parker St- Waltham St- acton St- Haynes St-
    Brown St.
    
    (I think)
    
    Jerry

    Well, you are way ahead of me on this one, as you have come up with several
    that I did not think about.

    The 2 I had in mind are PowderMill Rd to Parker St., or vice versa and
    Garfield St. to Garfield Ave., and again vice versa.

    The one I'm not too sure about is Waltham St. turns into

	o Summer St.?
	o Acton St.?
	o Both?  (Sounds liek there's a bar bet in there somewhere)

    I didn't think about Acton St. changing to Haynes St., and then to Brown
    St.  That's a good one, becasue you can start at different places and
    come up with different answers, as far as how many streets.

    At the rsik of sounding like a judge, I think the Brook St. to
    Mockingbird Lane should qualify.  You would be traveling along a road
    that would logically seem like the same street, but it's different.

    Again, risking judgeship, Concord St. to High St. would not qualify, as
    High St. is in another town.

    Have we got them all?

    John

    If you consider name changes at the Town Line, I think that Great 
    Road turns into North Road in Sudbury, Brown Street becomes Main
    Street in acton, Summer Street is Pompositticut Road in Stow, and
    Parker Street becomes Maynard Road in Sudbury.
    
    Frank 

    This isn't really trivia, but it does tie to 221.53 about the 
    Assabet Valley Little League and the replies that followed that
    entry.
    
    The Phillies (known as the Sparks in my day) won it all again,
    for what I think is the fifth straight year, beating MY team,
    the Cardinals.  The Phillies were undefeated (18-0 counting the
    playoffs).
    
    For you ex-Sparks out there, including Steve Morgan, Steve Buscemi,
    Tracy Galvin, and ME, we should feel proud that all our hard work
    in training Bob Graham how to coach finally paid off!!
    
    Paul Fryatt (another ex-Spark) was one of the umpires during our
    playoffs and I he told me that the Cardinals (my team) were the
    old Co-Op team.  I'm still trying to figure out what became of the
    other original teams.
    
    ASIDE: Do any of you ex-Sparks have your old Sparks hats?  I think
    my father burned mine.... 
    
    Frank

    >ASIDE: Do any of you ex-Sparks have your old Sparks hats?  I think
    >my father burned mine.... 
    
    Can't say that I have my hat, Frank, but my mother did save a bunch of
    pictures and newspaper clippings for me.  My son has a picture of
    myself in the old SPARKS uniform, at the innocent age of 12, sitting atop 
    his desk.  It's comical to look at the woolen uniforms we used to wear, as 
    well as the fact that very few (if any) kids wore cleets, never mind wrist
    bands, batting gloves, etc., during those years.  I always sported a pair 
    of $5 Converse REJECT, canvas sneaks, bought at Webster's in Hudson.
    
    					Steve

re: .118

Sorry, Jerry, but that wasn't really correct about Acton St. 

I always thought it was one way from Concord St. to Cumberland, but it 
is not.  

I came down Maple Court one day and realized that you can go hard 
right to Cumberland, or straight up Acton St. to the Acton / Concord 
Sts intersection (ok, so that's 10 feet). 

Actually, I was shocked, because when I turn right onto Acton (towards 
cumberland) from Concord, I never think that a car can be coming at me 
from Maple Court.  

I guess it is one-way from the Maple Ct. 'intersection' to Cumberland.

    Re:  Note 221.130
    
    Small correction Concord Street in Maynard becomes Parker Street
    in Acton.  High Street crosses Concord/Parker street in Acton.
    
    Regards,
    
    Alice
    
    

    OK, I've had enough of street names for a while. 
    
    Let's change the subject.
    
    ***WHO NAMED ALUMNI FIELD?***
    
    Frank

    Here's another question:
    
    ***WHO NAMED THE GREEN MEADOW SCHOOL?***
    
    Frank
    

    For those who get .140 and .141, try this for the triple play:
    
    ***WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED NAME FOR THE NEW MAYNARD HIGH
    SCHOOL?***
    
    (Hint: It was NOT Maynard High).
    
    Frank

    This one should keep you busy for a while:
    
    Everyone should know where Maynard High School is today, and most
    will know that prior to the construction of the present MHS, the
    High School was at the present Fowler Middle School.
    
    Before that (1916) where was Maynard High School?
    
    Frank

    Was it where the Maynard Town Hall is today?  Just a guess!
    
    Lin
    

>    ***WHO NAMED ALUMNI FIELD?***
 
    Don Lent?   

>    ***WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED NAME FOR THE NEW MAYNARD HIGH
>    SCHOOL?***
 
    JFK High School?  This name was then given to the gymnasium at the
    present Fowler Middle School.

>    Everyone should know where Maynard High School is today, and most
>    will know that prior to the construction of the present MHS, the
>    High School was at the present Fowler Middle School.
    
>    Before that (1916) where was Maynard High School?
    
    Nason St., at the Nason St. School, which held grades 1-12?  This is where 
    the Roosevelt School stands today.  The present building is/was the 3rd 
    school to sit on that lot.  After a fire swept through the 2nd structure 
    somewhere around 1916, the current building was built using the same 
    foundation.  The building that exists today was always a grade school 
    (1-6) until it closed a few years ago, I believe.
    
    This may or may not be the answer you're looking for, Frank.  I think
    there was a short period of time after the fire, when the high school 
    was actually on Acton St.
    
    		  			Steve
    

    Not exactly Maynard related, but, what was the previous name of Lake
    Boon?  (HINT: this is somewhat of a trick question)
    
    How many "houses of worship" are there in town?  Can you name them?
    
    					Steve

.146> Not exactly Maynard related, but, what was the previous name of Lake
.146> Boon?  (HINT: this is somewhat of a trick question)
    
I spent the 4th of July in, on, and next to Lake Boon.  My friends there say 
it used to be called Boon's Pond.

Let me propose a multiple question:

Where is White Pond, where is White's Pond, and why should this matter to
people in Maynard?

-Steve

    Correct, Steve.  Boon's Pond it was.
    
>Where is White Pond, where is White's Pond, and why should this matter to
>people in Maynard?
    
    White Pond is near the Hudson/Stow line, I believe, near the Fire
    Academy.  This pond is important because it is one of Maynard's
    water sources.  It is also very close to the Ft. Devens Annex (the old 
    Ammo dump), which is full of all kinds of nice little carcinogens.
    
    White's Pond is in Concord just over the Sudbury line.  This is a very
    popular trout fishing spot.  This pond is now pretty much surrounded by
    houses.  There is also a beach there for Concord residents.
    
    					Steve

    re. .112
    
    You are right Frank, it was Longfellow.  I'll search thru my old
    yearbooks and see if I can find the passage...
    
    W

          <<< Note 221.141 by SENIOR::IGNACHUCK "Native Maynardian" >>>
    
  >  ***WHO NAMED THE GREEN MEADOW SCHOOL?***
    
    Did a little research over the weekend (a.k.a., asking the family at
    Sunday dinner).  The school was named by the students, who were
    provided with a list of possibilities.  Green Meadow was voted the most
    popular.
    
    					Steve

        <<< Note 221.146 by BUILD::MORGAN "It is time to become one" >>>
    
    > How many "houses of worship" are there in town?  Can you name them?
    
    Well, this one doesn't seem too popular a question, so I'll answer it
    myself.  The answer follows the form feed, it you'd still like to
    guess.

    To the best of my knowledge there are ten churches/houses of worship in
    Maynard.
    
Church of the Nazarene			(Glendale St.)
First Bible Baptist			(Waltham St.)
Holy Annunciation Orthodox		(Prospect St.{rectory at Elm})
Kingdom Hall of Jehova's Witnesses	(can't remember st. name {off Walnut})
Maynard United Methodist		(Summer St.)
Mission Evangelical Congregational  	(Walnut St.)
St. Bridget's Roman Catholic		(Percival St.)
St. Casimir's Roman Catholic		(Great Rd.)
St. George's Episcopal			(Summer St.)
Union Congregational			(Main St.)
    

    Frank,  Thanks for the plug in .136.  I was proud to be a Spark, since
    it is the only AVLL team I ever played for.  I forget my coaches name,
    but I want to say ? Snow.  I don't have any hats left, but my mother
    does have a couple of pictures of me in the old woolie.  The back of my
    uni was missing a letter, so I actually played for the S ARKS.
    
    BTW, I am still waiting for the answer to my question of who is
    represented in the large wall picture of the Digits, in MRO2.
    
    Tracy
    
    P.S.  My daughter just completed her first year in AVLL.  We are
    looking forward to many more.

    If your are talking about the picture of the little leagers Phil
    Buscemi (now at LKG) is in that one.
    
    garry
    

    Being in a "Field Service" Group, it's very embarrasing to report that
    my node (Senior) has been brain dead for the past two days, so it's
    taken me a while to close out my trivia questions.
    
    Here goes:
    
    .140 asks "Who named Alumni Field?"-  It was Don Lent, in 1928.  Steve
    Morgan wins this.
    
    .141 asks "Who named Green Meadow School?"- Again, Steve gets the win.
    The school children came up with the name.
    
    .142 asks for the original proposed name for the "new" High School.
    A motion to name the School "John F. Kennedy High School" was defeated
    at Town Meeting.  However, the gym at the new High School was named
    for John F. Kennedy.   Steve gets partial credit because the gym at
    the Fowler School is the "Memorial Gymnasium" in honor of our Veterans.
    
    .143 asks for location of the High School prior to construction of the
    Summer Street School.  Right on, Steve, the High School was part of 
    what is known as the second Nason Street School which burned down in
    two fires within a week of each other in 1916.  Actually, the High 
    School had already planned to move into the new Summer Street building
    in October of that year.  I don't know that the original foundation
    was used for the Roosevelt School, but it could have been.
    
    Thanks for the responses.
    Frank

    
    	By the way I was a member of the PALS, not the lowly SPARKS ;^)
    	(actually I'm just jealous because Bob Graham use to buy the
        whole SPARKS team an ice cream at Erikson's even when they       
        lost).  I was also a member of the DIGIT's, I'm not sure if 
        I'm in the picture though.  I'll have to check it out at LKG.
    
    	Steve
    

    My brother, Erik Tervo, was on a team called the BOMBERS.  Does anyone
    remember them?  I think I have the team picture at home, if I didn't
    send it to Erik at some point.  I remember Arthur "Tiger" Brooks and
    his brother Bob were on the team.  Can't remember any others right now.
    
    Have a good weekend everybody,
    
    Linda (Tervo) Snow
    

    Steve, 
    
    The DIGIT's picture is in the MRO2 bldg. lobby level right near
    the elevator.  It's a great picture.  I asked Stella Buscemi
    who was in it and all I remember is: The Richardson brothers,
    Whitney Brothers and her son David.  Also, the coaches were:
    Phil Buscemi, Art LeSage and Jim Richardson.  
    
    I bet Frank would know who is in the picture!!!!

    Here's a trivia question about schools:
    
    The oldest school building in Maynard still exists and is now a home.
    
    Where is it?
    
    Frank

    how about the little brick house on the right hand side of summer
    street
    heading toward Stow - just past summerhill road?  I think Mrs Tucker
    (jr hi health teacher, humerus, radius, ulna......)was born in it!
    I think it's painted white now.
    Judy

Geez, I live right down the street and I can't remember if it's white or gray,
but I think it's now gray.  If I'm not mistaken there's been an addition added
to the back of the house, and the number is 99.

Steve

    Maynard's first schoolhouse was our first home.  
    
    It is 101 Summer St. and painted a very light gray.  The only addition
    to the original school is the kitchen many, many years ago.  The
    original blackboard is still in the front wall of the livingroom - 
    wallpapered over of course.  
    
    The bathroom was originally a flour pantry - quite small - and with
    three females in the family we had to move on but I will always have
    a soft spot for that home.

    The answer to "The Oldest School Building" is indeed the brick
    house at 101 Summer Street.
    
    It may be of interest that the School was built by the Town of
    Stow around 1766, and was known as the District 5 School.  It
    served as a school for over 100 years and was finally sold by
    the Town of Maynard in 1872 for $113.50.*
    
    *(From the History of Maynard, copyright 1971, Maynard Historical
    Committee).
    
    Frank

    There is another old school building that is an apartment building. 
    Does anyone know it?

    It is on Acton Street, Steve Morgan and his new bride lived there
    I believe.  I learned this on a history walk I took with my
    fifth graders class last May.  
    
    Brigit
    

    The other school house which is an apartment building is on the corner
    of Great Rd. and Sudbury St., the building with the parking loy in
    front of it.

    Maynard Trivia is back:
    
    In our 120 year history as a Town, who holds the record for the 
    most years as Selectman? 
    
    Also, who holds the record for the shortest term as Selectman.
                 
    Frank                                                         

    >   Also, who holds the record for the shortest term as Selectman.
    
    This one's easy. Frank Ignachuck.
    
    
    <grin>

    For some reason I am inclined to say that Dick White was selectman the
    longest.

    No more action on the Selectmen longevity question so the answers
    are:
    
    1.  Frank S. Binks served as Selectman from 1914 to 1928 and again
    from 1930 to 1933.
    
    2.  I'm probably the one with the shortest term, but I think that
    George Whalen died after a very short term in office.
    
    Frank

    This is not really trivia, but there isn't a note on wildlife,
    so I'll enter this here.
    
    A couple of weeks ago, I represented the Town of Maynard at an
    announcement at the Fort Devens Annex.  I got there early, and
    went into the guard's shack to beg for a cup of coffee, and to
    chat with the people who patrol the land.
    
    Like most Maynard residents, I'm very interested in the two
    square miles of Maynard that has been controlled by the government
    for over fifty years.  (Someday I hope to get this land back,
    but that's not trivia).  
    
    You might be interested to know that the present deer count in
    the Annex is up to 22.  There are six beavers currently trying
    to dam up Taylor Brook, and an increasing population of fishers.
    Last year there was a brown bear but he/she has not been seen 
    this year.
    
    
    Frank

 A brown bear??!!

    Here is the ultimate trivia question:
    
    	What was Amory Maynard's middle name?
    
    
      Note: it was not "Tiger", and (for Gerry Dee) not "Pub"....
    
    Frank
    

    Wild guess - "Lorenzo"
    
    I know the son who donated the clock was named Lorenzo, maybe after his
    fathers middle name?
    
    TG
    
    

    Folks, we need to crank up this trivia note.
    
    Everyone knows that Gruber's Furniture must be the oldest store in
    Maynard.
    
    QUESTION:  So, what's the second oldest store in Maynard?
    
    Frank

    This is a total guess here and since I don't live in Maynard anymore
    (yes, I deserted long ago) I'm not sure what stores are in existance.
    
    		1)  Woolworth's
    		2)  Market on the corner of Walnut and Parker?
    		3)  Salmone's market by McDonald's
    		
    
    How'd I do?
    
    -sandy (formerly Wuorio)
    
    

    What year did Grubers Furniture open???
    
    Brigit

    My guess would be the little store next to what is now Amory's. My
    family has always called it Nellie's Paper Store.
    
    Norma

    Some of us (who don't have a life) would like to know the answer here!
    
    -sandy
    

    I'm so sorry.  I was waiting for more guesses.
    
    In the discussion about granting a beer and wine license to the 
    Corner Store, it was revealed that this is the second oldest store
    in continuous operation in Maynard.
    
    I'm not sure of this part, but I THINK that the Croft family has
    been the owners of the property all the time, leasing out the 
    store to various owners (Ali, Ron Doran, Fred DeGrappo, and Varish
    Patel, and perhaps others) all these years.
    
    Frank

    
    Hey Frank,
    
    How's about Mr. Maynards middle name?  Was I close?
    
    TG

    And were you aware that Gruber's used to be the movie theater?
    
    Karen
    

    Long, long ago, in 221.172, I asked a trivia question about Amory
    Maynard's middle name.
    
    I thought I knew the answer and had a chance today to check with
    Ralph Sheridan.
    
    I was right.....
    
    
    Amory Maynard didn't have a middle name!
    
    Frank         

Well, this isn't really about Maynard...   On 117, just over the stow 
line, there is a white building on the left side (headed west).  It 
looks like it has two 'garage' doors, and then a part you would walk 
into.  Maybe it was just an old gas station, but I drive by and wonder 
if there is an interesting story behind that building.  

    re: .183
    
    You must be referring to Lauri Kuenelius garage.  Lauri used to run a
    radiator shop out of that building for many years.  He just closed shop
    in the past couple.  The family lives off of White Pond Rd (the road I
    grew up on), after leaving Maynard (only to return later in life).
    
    The shop was great.  I can remember pulling in my old 66 mustang one
    day.  Lauri pulled the radiator right out of the car, and proceeded to
    rip it apart.  Of course he was performing a diagnostic check and when
    it was complete, I was out $100 for a re-cored one from his stock.  I
    was so impressed  I brought all my american made cars there to be
    fixed.
    
    TG

    While attending meetings on the 100th anniversary of the Town Clock,
    I received a pile of newspaper clippings and various historical 
    information from Ralph Sheridan, Town Historian.
    
    Here's a trivia question for you:
    
    The Town Clock has been grey and white for the last 50 years.  It
    it's first 50 years, however, it was not.  
    
    What were the original colors of the Town Clock?
    
    By the way, in 1980, when the Clock was sandblasted down to the
    original wood, there were *nine* coats of paint on it. 
    
    Frank
    

    RED and White,  Hows that BRO??
    

    Sandblasted????  Does that mean all those names dating back to the turn
    of the century were wiped out???  What a pity, if so.
    
    TG

    The original color of the Clock was quickly answered by brother
    Roy.
    
    The clock was "brick red" with white trim from 1892 to 1942, when
    it was repainted in a less obvious grey and white during World
    War 2.  
    
    Regarding .187, only the exterior of the clock was sandblasted,
    and the "cones" that make up the reflectors remain today with
    hundreds of autographs.  In an attempt to reduce further autographs,
    there is now a visitor log book on a lower floor for sign-ins.
    
    Among the neatly pencilled autographs are a couple of spray painted
    names, done by some yahoos a few years ago (although as I remember,
    the color *is* Digital touch up grey).  That episode kind of put a
    damper on the sign the clock craze.
    
    Frank

    I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask this, but here goes.
    
    There are two structures on Parker St south of PKO that have 
    always puzzled me. They are both clusters of identical small
    houses, separate but abutting. One cluster is sort of a U-shape, 
    the other is almost a closed circle, reminding me of a wagontrain
    parked for the night. 
    
    Who built these? Were they for a special purpose?
    
    Lucy 

    Do you mean on the opposite side of the road that PKO is on, Lucy?
    If so, I think I know where you mean.  I've no answer other than to say
    it always looked like a little commune to me...
    
    					Steve

    Yes, they are on the opposite side of the road from PKO.
    One of them is opposite the Vose Hill development, and one
    is farther down toward Sudbury.  
    
    Lucy

    What's the deal with the new three-way stop intersection down on
    Mockingbird Lane at the corner where the new development is? I believe
    Mockingbird should have retained its right-of-way and the town should
    have simply put a stop sign up on the new road coming out of the
    development. Instead, we've got an all-way stop now.
    
    Here's the trivia: Name another intersection in Maynard with an all-way
    stop sign.

    The reason the 3 way stop sign was placed on Mockingbird Lane, was from
    the request from the neighborhood residents during the public hearing
    for the new devlopment.  Several residents said the curve on
    Mockingbird Lane was dangereous and cars frequently were speeding around
    this curve.  When the devlopment was approved a condition was made that
    the developer place the stops signs and square the intersection, thus
    eliminating the curve.  The devloper plans to square the intersection
    this fall.
    
    Paul

    I could be wrong on this, but I don't think these stop signs are state
    sanctioned, and therefore you cannot receive a citation for going
    through one.  Heard that one at a local coffee shop.  The stop sign on
    the west side of Mockingbird does not make any sense to me.
    
    TG

    Wrong! Bob C
    
    I go by your house every morning....coming from Mockingbird Lane.  I do
    know the area, and I believe the sign on the Reo rd side of Mockingbird
    is not placed right.  This is my opinion.  I can see you have your own.

    I'll agree that the intersection is a little silly right now. However,
    I think it will be much better once the builder squares it off. 

    As a Mockingbird Lane resident, I understand the issue of the
    Mockingbird straightaway. I don't think the stop signs will solve the
    problem. There's still a good quarter mile of open road before they
    even have to think about slowing down. Now, maybe a stop sign around
    Bluejay Way would stop the drag racing.

    Stop signs have to be ordered by the town selectmen and approved by the
    state. If the builder just threw up three signs on the way home from
    work one day without getting all the necessary approvals, they won't
    hold up in court.

    What about the trivia? No one can name another all-stop intersection?
    Is this our first one?

    >I know what you are saying about about the stop signs are true, but why
    >have to go to court why not just stop. save alot of hassle.
    
    Well, this is not really the issue. I'm sure most people aren't
    interested in testing the legality of the signs. Who cares? When it
    says stop, you stop. However, for those times that someone actually
    gets cited by the police for running a stop sign, it might be helpful
    if the citation was founded on some legal principle which could be
    enforced.
    
    Besides that, I'm guessing the town could get in trouble for a renegade
    stop sign strategy. 
    
    Trivia, trivia -- what about the trivia! There's got to be another
    all-way stop.

    Alright, I'll bite................4-way stop signs are in the
    Presidential development - Hayes Street @ Roosevelt Street, I believe.
    
    Brigit

Regarding legal stop signs:  Where my wife works in Concord, they need a stop
sign at the end of the drive way, but it can't be a real stop sign because it's
on private property.  The solution: a red, eight-sided sign that says "WHOA".

						Brian

    The stop sign at the Mockingbitd Lane intersection was posted in the
    legal notices of the Beacon, which is one of the requirements to become an
    approved (legal) stop sign.   I beleave this sign is legal and
    enforcable.  

    Unless things have changed, The State does not have to approve Stop
    signs unless they are on State Highways.  The Local Authorites can
    approve after posting notice for X amount of days.  In this case I
    think it is the Chief of Police and the police Commisioners I.E the
    Selectman,
    
    Roy

    The stop signs at Mockingbird were part of the Planning Board site
    plan approval for the new subdivision, and the Selectmen invoked an
    emergency provision to have them installed now, rather than wait for
    the completion of the subdivision based on a petition submitted by the 
    neighborhood residents.   
    
    The stop signs ARE legal and enforceable by the Maynard Police.
    
    FYI:  ALL stop signs in Maynard are locally controlled and DO NOT
    require any approval from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.  The
    Commonwealth only regulates stop signs on State CONTROLLED roads
    (Rte. 2, 20, 2A, etc). Rtes. 117, 62, and 27 are State NUMBERED
    roads, but not State controlled.
    
    I agree that the four way stop intersection is at Roosevelt and
    Hayes.
    
    Regards,
    Frank

>    plan approval for the new subdivision, and the Selectmen invoked an
>    emergency provision to have them installed now, rather than wait for
>    the completion of the subdivision based on a petition submitted by the 
>    neighborhood residents.   
 
  Good. I have seen dozens of four-way intersections around here in new (and
old) developments that have no stop signs in any direction. The residents
learn to live with this, but it's a major hazard to visitors. The stop signs
should go up when the first houses are moved into, NOT when the development is
finished.
   
>   Rtes. 117, 62, and 27 [in Maynard] are State NUMBERED
>   roads, but not State controlled.
    
  Are you saying that the town owns every mile of "state" highway in Maynard?
If so, I would be surprised. Usually, the town owns the numbered roads in the
(historically) built-up sections of town and the state owns the state roads in
the outskirts.

> Regarding legal stop signs:  Where my wife works in Concord, they need a stop
> sign at the end of the driveway, but it can't be a real stop sign because it's
> on private property.  The solution: a red, eight-sided sign that says "WHOA".

  If Concord has such a rule, it is very unusual. I can cite dozens of examples
of stop signs where private business roads intersect with public roads, in-
cluding three right here at LKG.
  I have also seen "real" stop signs at intersections located entirely on 
private property. Legally enforceable? I don't know, but they can legally be
erected.