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Conference 7.286::maynard

Title:Maynard -- Center of the Universe
Notice:Welcome to our new digs...
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Wed Aug 06 1986
Last Modified:Thu Feb 20 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:509
Total number of notes:4062

481.0. "Chubby's Gone?" by CHKMAT::SMSDEV () Fri Dec 30 1994 15:12

    what happened to Chubby's?
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481.1chubbysMYOSPY::FINNERTYSat Dec 31 1994 08:527
    RE: -1
    
    Chubbys went out of business. I think the food was good but the service
    was not. I hear that a Tocco shop will open in its place, run by one
    of the landos.
    
    Kevin F.
481.2Who else has gone?SLEDD::HABERsupercalifragilisticexpialidociousFri Jan 13 1995 16:398
    I saw in yesterday's Beacon that the Bagel Stop is being thwarted in
    his attempt to move to a bigger store... I think it's the one on Main
    St that used to house Village Jewelers [who, by the way, have gone out
    of business in the Assabet Mall, with no notice in any paper].  The
    article also mentioned that 4 other businesses had just closed up shop 
    this past month -- who?  Main street looks so bad right now.
    
    sandy
481.3Bagel shopPARADE::LESAGEFri Jan 13 1995 18:5533
    I will try to explain what is happening with the Bagel shop.  In
    October the Bagel shop was going to move to the building Century 21 was
    vacating on Nason St..  Mark Strauss the owner of the Bagel shop was
    told then, he would have to go thru the Site Plan approval process.  Mark
    Strauss was suppose to meet with the Planning Board on December 13th to
    discuss the process.  He never showed up.  I heard a few weeks later
    that he wasn't moving to Nason St., but was going to move to Main St..
    
    Sometime in December Mark's lawyer called the towns' legal counsel to
    discuss the site plsn process.  Town counsel told him he had to conform
    to the process.  After Christmas Mark called me and other board
    memebers to see if we would waive the process.  Since we have made all
    other businesses go thru this process, the Bagel shop must do so also.
    However, The Planning board and the building expector have agreed to
    let Mark start the demolition on his new site before the site plan
    process starts.
    
    In the meantime Mark has gone to the Beacon, the Chamber of Commerce,
    some members of the Selectmen, telling them we are thwarting his
    business.  The Planning Board can't be blamed for Mark changing his
    mind on his new location for his business, and for having his lease
    expire.  Which does not give him enough time to adhere to the towns
    regulations and move to his new site.
    
    I have heard that the reason some of the other businesses in the mall
    have closed, is because the owner of the mall is cancelling all the
    leases.  They plan on using to most mall for office space.
    
    regards
    
    Paul   
     
    
481.4PRAGMA::GRIFFINDave GriffinFri Jan 13 1995 21:0518
Ah, the Beacon's probing investigative reporters...


Not that you have to answer this Paul but could you comment on the
discrepency between the statement:


>>                           Since we have made all
>>other businesses go thru this process, ...

and the Beacon comment that Grappa's received a waiver?


[I only know about this because I happened to pick up a copy to see how
 badly they mangled my quotes on the Joe Magno feature...]


- dave
481.5Site PlanPARADE::LESAGEMon Jan 16 1995 14:5718
    Grappa's was given a waiver because there wasn't a change of use.  The
    building was the Red Door Cafe, which was mostly a bar room, but it did
    serve food and it did have a small kitchen.
    
    Site Plan approval process is required when there is going to be a
    significant change of use or if there is going to be significant change 
    in the foot print of the building (expansion).  Pep's Gym had to go thru
    Site Plan.  Mr. Paul is adding a small bakery next to his gym.  This
    bakery is going to sell some type of health muffins, biscuits, coffee
    etc..  Wendy's, Christmas Motors, The Thai restaurant, Chubby's
    Chicken, TC Lando's, just to name few, all had to adhere to the site
    plan approval process.  Most towns have a site plan process. For
    example Wendy's had to go thru the process with Maynard and Acton,
    because the site is in both towns.
    
    regards
    
    Paul 
481.6TPSGPX::GULDENSCHUHMon Jan 16 1995 19:3013
re: .5

Not that I really care one way or the other, but...

>    Grappa's was given a waiver because there wasn't a change of use.  The
>    building was the Red Door Cafe, which was mostly a bar room, but it did
>    serve food and it did have a small kitchen.

When they renovate that building, ALL of the exterior and interior walls
were removed!  The only thing that remained the same was the foundation
and the frame.  If that didn't require a site plan, then something is wrong!

/s/ Chuck
481.7Re: .5 -- thanks for the clarificationPRAGMA::GRIFFINDave GriffinMon Jan 16 1995 21:259
Then I suppose Grappa really didn't get a waiver then, since (apparently)
there was *nothing* to waive -- they were simply able to proceed without
a site plan approval because they were within the regulations or whatever.

(A waiver, to me, implies that someone is permitted a shortcut around
normal rules for some set of extenuating circumstances).


- dave
481.8site planPARADE::LESAGETue Jan 17 1995 11:4415
    Dave you are correct.  Site plan was not waived for Grappa's, the
    regulation did not apply.  The process for Site Plan usually proceeds
    as follows:  An applicant goes to the building inspector for a building
    permit.  The building inspector reviews the plans.  If the building
    inspector thinks the plans fall under the site plan process he sends
    the applicant to the planning board.  The board then rules if the site plan
    process applies.  You can altar a building considerably without
    expanding and site plan does not apply.  For example Digital has been
    renovating the mill for years, but they did not change the exterior 
    foot print of the building.  DEC did not have to go thru the site plan
    process.
    
    regards
    
    Paul
481.9HUMANA::ROTHGeometry is the real life!Tue Jan 17 1995 14:416
   Re:  the Bagel Stop, business has been waaay down at lunch now that
   the Mill is vacated.  Mark had to lay off some of his lunchtime
   help, it's more like Saturday business there during the week these
   days.

   - Jim
481.10HUMANA::ROTHGeometry is the real life!Tue Jan 17 1995 14:4816
>         <<< Note 481.9 by HUMANA::ROTH "Geometry is the real life!" >>>
                            ************

   The node database on MCC1 appears to be out of date, we're no longer
   in the Mill :-)

	NCP>tell mcc1 show node wrksys
	25.923 (WRKSYS) 

	NCP>tell mcc1 sho node humana
	29.715 (HUMANA)

	NCP>sho node wrksys
	29.715 (WRKSYS)

    - Jim   WRKSYS::ROTH
481.11I think the Bagel Stop is closed...WRKSYS::ROTHGeometry is the real life!Thu Apr 06 1995 20:283
    I haven't seen any sign of activity there this week.

    - Jim
481.12Many more have closed...WHYNOW::NEWMANSystems Upgrade Marketing - DTN 223-5795Fri Apr 07 1995 02:142
    THe BAgle Stop has closed along with Bouchiers Perfume store and all
    retail stores in the "Maynard Mall"...
481.13LANDO::CANSLERMon Apr 10 1995 15:047
    
    
    Can anyone explain what is going on with the mall; is it rent??
    
    
    bc
    
481.14PLUGH::needleMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye!&quot;Thu May 04 1995 19:284
The Maynard Mall is being converted to office space.  Geriatric doctors, I
think.

j.