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Conference pcbuoa::server_works

Title:	Server_works

Moderator:	PCBUOA::IS_SYSTEM

Created:	Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	291
Total number of notes:	1063

263.0. "Discovery problems with Digital UNIX V4.0B" by KITCHE::schott (Eric R. Schott USG Product Management) Mon Apr 28 1997 20:25

Problem with auto discovery and Digital UNIX V4.0B systems.

Hi

 I installed serverworks and did an auto discovery.  The Digital
UNIX V4.0 systems were properly recognized, but the V4.0B systems were
not.

Here is some snmp_request output for the working and failing systems:

  Systems that are recognized by ServerWorks:

kitche[254] snmp_request shaman public get 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.2.0
1.3.6.1.2.1.1.2.0 = 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.15.2.4.0
kitche[255] snmp_request osgpm0 public get 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.2.0
1.3.6.1.2.1.1.2.0 = 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.15.2.4.0

  System NOT recognized by ServerWORKS:  (V4.0B system)

kitche[253] snmp_request kitche public get 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.2.0
1.3.6.1.2.1.1.2.0 = 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.15.2.3



Notice the different responses from the V4.0B system.

Can serverworks be fixed?

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
263.1	Server Works doesn't support Old WS's	PCBUOA::BRACKEN		`Tue Apr 29 1997 14:18`	3
	The reason this does not work is because there is no support for DEC3000 and 2000 series of workstations, which haven't been sold externally for 3 year.
263.2		KITCHE::schott	Eric R. Schott USG Product Management	`Wed Apr 30 1997 00:02`	3
	Can I ask why? We have not decommited support for any alpha systems?
263.3	Trying to keep up with newer platforms	PCBUOA::BRACKEN		`Wed Apr 30 1997 12:37`	4
	It's not that we have decomitted, we have always added new platforms since the inception of Server Works without having the manpower to go back to supporting legacy platforms. If we do it is in the Server realm.
263.4		SMURF::DANIELE		`Tue May 06 1997 20:02`	13
	> <<< Note 263.1 by PCBUOA::BRACKEN >>> > -< Server Works doesn't support Old WS's >- > The reason this does not work is because there is no support for > DEC3000 and 2000 series of workstations, which > haven't been sold externally for 3 year. What MIB variable are you polling to learn the workstation model? .0 posted values for sysObjectID, which doesn't map to models at all... Thanks, Mike
263.5	You can override us!	PCBUOA::TAGARIELLOB		`Mon May 12 1997 22:35`	33
	What MIB variable are you polling to learn the workstation model? The sysDescr is used in the case of VMS and Digital Unix. The decision was made that ServerWORKS should ONLY DISCOVER SERVERS! THIS IS A PRODUCT MANAGEMENT DECISION, NOT A TECHNICAL ONE. We have been through this many times, one day it is in the next day it is out. Kami Ajgaonkar is in charge of our Alpha funding, and made this decision. If you wish this decision changed, please contact him ASAP. Any user can make the change in the object group for a server.digital. Select the menu Tools->Object Types... Push the "object descriptor..." button Use the Object Type selector, find server.digital. Hit add Use Object Type selector again, server.digital add in the sysDescr field DECM4000 or whatever you want. When discovery finds this string in the sysdesc it will override the regular mechanism. tag
263.6		SMURF::DANIELE		`Thu May 15 1997 13:51`	6
	Thanks for the information. I really just wanted to make sure you weren't making assumptions about sysObjectID values. Mike