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| Title: | NAS Message Queuing Bus |
| Notice: | KITS/DOC, see 4.*; Entering QARs, see 9.1; Register in 10 |
| Moderator: | PAMSRC::MARCUS EN |
|
| Created: | Wed Feb 27 1991 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 2898 |
| Total number of notes: | 12363 |
2850.0. "IQ utility error message" by AYOV29::LTALBOT () Wed Apr 16 1997 14:57
Could someone explain the error message I am getting while running the IQ option within the Link Management section of the DMQ
menu.
While attempting to get the status of any external group linkage I get the message
"Received message is larger than the user message area".
I am running DMQ v3.2-13(3213) on an Alpha with OpenVMS 6.2-1H2.
At least one of the nodes I an trying to communicate with is DMQ v3.2A-22(3222) on VaxVMS 6.1 Other nodes are running at least
this level or older versions of DMQ and VaxVMS. While doing a LOOP test to this remote group I also set a
"Data Verification error".
Some additional background to this problem -
This is not a new application. The original version runs on DMQ v2.1B-36 on VaxVMS v5.5-2. We are currently porting
it to Alpha. I have done a LOOP test to all the remote groups from the DMQ v2 group with good results. I have been
comparing this to the same LOOP test on the new Alpha setup. The LOOP test on Alpha produces a large number of Time Outs
and one site has these data validation errors.
My dmq$init.txt is attached.
Thanks in advance,
Les Talbot (823-3714)
*************************************************************************
* *
* DECmessageQ Initialization File *
* *
*************************************************************************
*
%VERSION 3.0
*
%PROFILE ***** Profile Parameters *****
*
ACCEPT_KILL_CMD NO ! Control MONITOR terminate requests
ENABLE_XGROUP YES ! Enable DECmessageQ cross-group access
XGROUP_VERIFY NO ! Limit incoming cross-group connections
ENABLE_MRS NO ! Enable DECmessageQ Message Recovery Services
ENABLE_JRN YES ! Enable DECmessageQ Message Journaling Services
ENABLE_SBS YES ! Enable DECmessageQ Selective Broadcast Services
ENABLE_QXFER NO ! Enable DECmessageQ MRS Queue Transfer Services
FIRST_TEMP_QUEUE 200 ! Select start of temp queue pool (200-950)
XGROUP_TABLE_SIZE 25 ! Select max number of group entries (25-32000)
NAME_TABLE_SIZE 200 ! Select max number of GNT entries (100-32000)
RCV_MSG_QUOTA_METHOD MAX ! Select type of rcv msg quota deductions (MIN | MAX)
ATTACH_TMO 600 ! Select PAMS_ATTACH_Q timeout (100-36000)
PAMSV25_MODE NO ! Select PAMS V2.5 compatiable DECnet object
*
%EOS
*
%XGROUP ***** Cross-Group Connection Table ******
*
* DMQ
* DMQ Group Gen Buff Recnt --Window---
*Group name ID System Cnt Pool Timer Delay Size Trnsprt Addr
*--------------- ----- ---------------- --- ---- ----- ----- ----- ------- -----
OVP 66 AYRDSS S 100 -1 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_REO 2961 RDGE60 Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_UTO 2898 HLIS21 Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_BPS 2836 BPSTEP Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_DBO 2817 DUB03 Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_IYO 889 MLNEUC Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_ISO 2815 MACABI Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_FNO 2819 HSKAP2 Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_SQO 2940 MDROSO Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_XIP 2839 MINHO Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_RTO 2824 RTOOF Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_EVO 2909 EVTV02 Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_CDG 2912 EVOIS8 Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_BRO 2810 BRSEIS Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_AUI 2906 VNOAP1 Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
ODW_ZUO 2903 RPRT01 Y 100 300 -1 -1 DECNET
*
*
%EOS
*
%ROUTING * initial routing table
*
* Target Route-Thru
* Group Group
* ------ ----------
* 1 2
* 2 4
* 3 4
* 4 2
* 5 4
* 6 2
* 7 4
*
%EOS
*
%CLS **** Client Lib Server Configuration Table ****
*
* Maximum #
* Endpoint Transport of Clients
* -------- --------- ----------
* 5000 TCPIP 16
* 5001 TCPIP 16
* 6000 DECNET 32
*
%EOS
*
%BUFFER ***** Buffer Pool Configuration Table *******
* Reserve
*Msg-Block-Type Byte-Size Number Warning-level Count
*-------------- --------- ------ ------------- ---------
SMALL 1000 600 20 60
MEDIUM 10000 100 20 5
LARGE 32000 100 20 1
%EOS
*
*
%QCT ***** Queue Configuration Table ******
*
* ---Pool Quota--- UCB Q Q Confrm Perm Name Check
* Queue Name Num Bytes Msgs Ctrl Send Type Own Style Act Scope ACL
*------------------- ---- ------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ---- ----- ----
IMS_MASTER_OVP 1 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
OVP_UPD_UK 2 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_BLD_UK1 3 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_BLD_UK2 4 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_SQL_UK 5 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
OVP_UPD_NOR 6 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_BLD_NOR1 7 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_BLD_NOR2 8 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_SQL_NOR 9 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
OVP_UPD_GY 10 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_BLD_GY1 11 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_BLD_GY2 12 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_SQL_GY 13 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
OVP_UPD_SMA 14 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_BLD_SMA1 15 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_BLD_SMA2 16 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_SQL_SMA 17 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
ODW_CLIENT_REO 18 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_RTO 19 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_FNO 20 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_EVO 21 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_CDG 22 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_BRO 23 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_ZUO 24 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_AUI 25 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_UTO 26 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_BPS 27 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_IYO 28 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_SQO 29 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_DBO 30 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_ISO 31 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_CLIENT_XIP 32 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
OVP_IPE_CL1_DP 33 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_IPE_LD1_DP 34 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_IPE_FL1_DP 35 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_IPE_SH1_DP 36 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_IPE_IT1_DP 37 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_IPE_NRVNUE_DP 38 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
OVP_IPE_REF_DP 39 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
OVP_AYO_DP 40 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
* Test ODW Servers
* ----------------
ODW_BCKLG_RTO_DP 41 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_REO_DP 42 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_FNO_DP 43 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_EVO_DP 44 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_CDG_DP 45 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_BRO_DP 46 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_ZUO_DP 47 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_AUI_DP 48 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_UTO_DP 49 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_BPS_DP 50 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_IYO_DP 51 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_SQO_DP 52 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_ISO_DP 53 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_XIP_DP 54 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
ODW_BCKLG_DBO_DP 55 1000000 . byte . P . . N L N
*
* SBS Server uses the following UCB numbers for Optimized Delivery
*
sbs_eth_control 74 0 0 . E . . . . L N
sbs_eth_chan1 75 0 0 . E . . . . L N
sbs_eth_chan2 76 0 0 . E . . . . L N
*
*
* Queues 90-100 & 150-199 are reserved for DECmessageQ utilities
temporary_q 0 64000 100 . . . . . . L N
screen_process 0 64000 100 . . . . . . L N
spare1 90 100000 100 . . . . . Y L N
all_ucbs 91 0 0 . . . . . . L N
timer_queue 92 0 0 . . . . . . L N
null 93 0 0 . . . . . . L N
internal1 94 64000 100 . . . . . Y L N
qtransfer_server 95 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
dead_letter_queue 96 64000 100 . . . . . Y L N
mrs_server 98 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
sbs_server 99 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
avail_server 99 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
com_server 100 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
declare_server 100 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
connect_server 100 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
queue_server 100 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
pams_transport 100 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
dmq_loader 150 250000 100 . . . . . N L N
dcl_by_q_name 151 0 0 . . . . . . L N
tcpip_ld 152 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
decnet_ld 153 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
reserved_ld 154 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
event_logger 155 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
jrn_server 156 1000000 1000 None . . . . N L N
mrs_failover 157 0 0 . . . . . N L N
dmq_fulltest_pq 191 250000 100 . . . . . N L N
dmq_fulltest_sq 192 250000 100 . . S 191 . N L N
example_q_1 193 64000 100 . . . . . N L N
example_q_2 194 64000 100 . . . . . N L N
IVP_unowned_sq 195 250000 100 . . S . . N L N
IVP_private_MOT1 4999 0 0 . . . . . . L N
IVP_universal_MOT1 5001 0 0 . . . . . . L N
*
%EOS
*
*
%SBS ******* SBS Server Initialization Section ************
*
MOT_MODE DMQ ! DMQ or ETH primary service
MOT_LOW 4800 ! 4000 - 4900
MOT_MID 5000 ! must be 5000
MOT_HIGH 5200 ! 5100 - 6000
*
*ETH_DEVICE ESA0: ! VMS device name of the Ethernet board
*
* <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Warning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
* The protocol and Ethernet addresses show below are not registered
* and are not guaranteed to not cause a conflict. Use them with
* discretion.
*
* |------ MCA ----| |Prot #| |- UCB queue -|
*CNTRL_CHAN AB-AA-34-56-78-90 81F0 74
*
* |------ MCA ----| |Prot #| |- UCB queue -|
*SET 0 AB-12-34-56-78-90 81F1 75
*MAP 5101 0 ! map a MOT to an Ethernet channel
*MAP 5102 0 ! map a MOT to an Ethernet channel
*
* |------ MCA ----| |Prot #| |- UCB queue -|
*SET 1 AB-12-34-56-78-92 81F2 76
*MAP 5103 1 ! map a MOT to an Ethernet channel
*
%EOS
*
*
%MRS ******* MRS/JRN Servers Initialization Section ************
*
AREA_SIZE 512 ! disk blks per file (min:128, max:16384, def:512)
NUM_DQF_AREAS 1000 ! min:100, max:1000000, default:1000
NUM_SAF_AREAS 1000 ! min:0, max:1000000, default:1000
NUM_PCJ_AREAS 1000 ! min:0, max:1000000, default:1000
NUM_DLJ_AREAS 1000 ! min:0, max:1000000, default:1000
NUM_MESSAGES 512 ! min:128, max:2147483647, default:512
NUM_QUEUES 128 ! min:128, max:2147483647, default:128
CACHE_PERCENTAGE 90 ! % rcv msg quota for MRS msgs (min:1, max:100, def:90)
USE_HIGH_WATER_MARK YES ! checkpt MRS sizing params to disk (YES/NO)
LOAD_MRS_CTRS YES ! init recoverable msg ctrs on startup (YES/NO)
RCVR_ONLY_CONFIRM YES ! limit msg confirms to receiving process (YES/NO)
XGRP_JRN_CTRL NO ! allow JRN cntrl msgs from other groups (YES/NO)
REDELIVERY_TIMER 10 ! integer seconds (min:0, max:5000, default:10)
*
PCJ_FILENAME DMQ$MRS:MRS_%bg.PCJ ! char[64] - %bg is a macro that
DLJ_FILENAME DMQ$MRS:MRS_%bg.DLJ ! char[64] - expands to bus_group
*
%EOS
*
%GNT ********* Group Name Table Section *********************
*
* Queue Name Queue Addr Scope
*------------------------------ ---------- -----
*global_queue1 1.234 G
lcl_queue1 134 L
lcl_queue2 135 L
lcl_queue3 136 L
*
%EOS
*
%END
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| 2850.1 | Need more info... | KLOVIA::MICHELSEN | BEA/DEC MessageQ Engineering | Thu Apr 17 1997 12:20 | 30 |
| >Could someone explain the error message I am getting while running the IQ
>option within the Link Management section of the DMQ menu.
>While attempting to get the status of any external group linkage I get the
>message
> "Received message is larger than the user message area".
Please get a header trace of the message that causes this problem
since it works here.
>At least one of the nodes I an trying to communicate with is DMQ
>v3.2A-22(3222) on VaxVMS 6.1 Other nodes are running at least
>this level or older versions of DMQ and VaxVMS. While doing a LOOP test to
>this remote group I also set a
> "Data Verification error".
Please be specific as to a combination that causes this problem
plus the answers given to DMQ$LOOP. Also, please examine the log
files on both sides of the link to see if the messages are being
lost or other errors. One thing that occurs to me that could cause
this behavior is mismatched large buffer sizes and you attempted to
loop a message larger than the remote system can handle and was
truncated. This problem should show up in the log file and it
will be handled better in the V4.0 release.
Marty
|
| 2850.2 | Log files + details | AYOV29::LTALBOT | | Thu Apr 17 1997 13:52 | 69 |
| Marty,
As requested I have concentrated on two groups only. My Alpha node has
OpenVMS 6.2-1HR and DMQ v3.2-13(3213) the remote node I am testing with is
VaxVMS 6.1 and DMQ v3.2A-22(3222). This remote node is group 2961 (ODW_REO).
The attached event log file relates to when I did a loop test to 2961 and got
a stream of messages
*** Data verification error, word # 399 sent=399 rcvd=0 ***
Immediately after this test I did an IQ within Link Management and got the message
"Received message is larger than the user massage area"
The remote group (2961) had nothing in its log file.
I got the remote group to perform the same loop test and IQ enquiry back into
my node. Both were successful with no problems.
I set the trace at DCL and ran dmq$mgr_utility.exe direct. I repeated the IQ
option. The screen grab is below.
Enter Group Number or <CR> to Return : 2961
DmQ T 44:05.0 Time Stamp - 17-APR-1997 14:44:05.00
DmQ T 44:05.0 =========================== PAMS Header V2.4 ===================================
DmQ T 44:05.0 Target= 66.100 Source= 66.276 Alt-tgt= 66.155 Size-data= 351
DmQ T 44:05.0 Org-tgt= 66.100 Org-src= 66.276 Ntfy-tgt= 66.276 Owner-PID=20200496
DmQ T 44:05.0 Class= 29 Type= -975 Alloc-flag= 1 Priority= 0
DmQ T 44:05.0 Del-Mode= 00000440 DIP-sts= 00000001 Visit-cnt= 16 Prev-grp= 0
DmQ T 44:05.0 Org-DM= 00000040 UMA-sts= 0 Timeout= 300 Endian= 0
DmQ T 44:05.0 Msg-flgs= 00000000 CRC[H:D]= 0000:0000 Seg[C:N]= 0:0 RP= 0
DmQ T 44:05.0 Seq-num= 01140042 ROSN= 00000000 LRA= 00000000 Links=00000000
DmQ T 44:05.0 00000007 7754E85C 00000000 00000000
DmQ T 44:05.0 =========================== PAMS Header V2.4 ===================================
DmQ T 44:05.0 Target= 66.276 Source= 66.1 Alt-tgt= 0.0 Size-data= 552
DmQ T 44:05.0 Org-tgt= 66.276 Org-src= 66.1 Ntfy-tgt= 66.1 Owner-PID=20200496
DmQ T 44:05.0 Class= 50 Type= 50 Alloc-flag= 1 Priority= 0
DmQ T 44:05.0 Del-Mode= 00000141 DIP-sts= 00000001 Visit-cnt= 16 Prev-grp= 0
DmQ T 44:05.0 Org-DM= 00000141 UMA-sts= 0 Timeout= 300 Endian= 0
DmQ T 44:05.0 Msg-flgs= 00000000 CRC[H:D]= 0000:0000 Seg[C:N]= 0:0 RP= 0
DmQ T 44:05.0 Seq-num= 00010042 ROSN= 00000000 LRA= 00000000 Links=FFFFEE80
DmQ T 44:05.0 0001CA07 33563543 00000000 FFF95150
Bus:112 Group:66 DECmessageQ Manager Utility Thu Apr 17 14:44:05 1997
*** Error returned by PAMS_GET_MSGW
%PAMS-E-AREATOSMALL, Received message is larger than the user's message area
Extract from EVL log file while doing Loop test and IQ option.
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 12:46:40.88 I Connect confirm from node BRSEIS is protocol V2.3
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 12:46:40.88 I Received a connect confirm from node BRSEIS group 2810 (ODW_BRO)
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:01:33.11 I Received a request to reset the counters at 17-APR-1997 14:01:33
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:02:12.23 F DECnet communications lost to message queue group 2961 (ODW_REO)
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:02:12.23 F %SYSTEM-F-LINKABORT, network partner aborted logical link
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:02:34.58 I Accepted connect from system REPROT for group 2961 (ODW_REO)
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:02:55.14 I Received a request to reset the counters at 17-APR-1997 14:02:55
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:05:07.59 F DECnet unknown communications error for message queue group 2836 (ODW_BPS)
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:05:07.59 F %SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT, device timeout
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:10:08.46 F DECnet communications lost to message queue group 2961 (ODW_REO)
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:10:08.46 F %SYSTEM-F-LINKABORT, network partner aborted logical link
COM_SERVER 17-APR-1997 14:10:25.20 I Accepted connect from system REPROT for group 2961 (ODW_REO)
Regards,
Les
|
| 2850.3 | Look at 66.1... | KLOVIA::MICHELSEN | BEA/DEC MessageQ Engineering | Fri Apr 18 1997 13:10 | 7 |
| re: .2
It looks like one of your processes is, for some reason, continuing to
send messages to a temporary queue after it has been recycled.
Marty
|
| 2850.4 | Note 66 ??? | AYOV29::LTALBOT | | Fri Apr 18 1997 13:49 | 5 |
| Sorry Marty I think you are asking me to look at note 66? What is the
connection between 66 and my question?
Les
|
| 2850.5 | I ment *queue* 66.1... | KLOVIA::MICHELSEN | BEA/DEC MessageQ Engineering | Fri Apr 18 1997 17:17 | 9 |
| re: .4
The header trace indicates that a message from queue 66.1 caused the
DMQ$MGR_UTILITY to have problems. This program only have dialogues with the
queues 98, 100 & 155, specifically this request goes to the COM Server
(Q-100).
Marty
|
| 2850.6 | IQ Now Working | AYOV29::LTALBOT | | Mon Apr 21 1997 14:04 | 13 |
| Marty,
Yes I get the dummy of the year award for not picking 66.1 as a que!
I have stopped the process on que 66.1 and everything is working OK.
I am taking to the (MSG+) IMS support people as 66.1 is the IMS Master
server.
Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Les
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