Conference bookie::movies

    
    
    
    
    I, am also tired of Michael D.
    	There are too many other able stars out there
    	much better and much younger......

    I agreee too!  Demi Moore could have probably used a younger, more
    virile looking costar....  who would have fit the role better?
    
    Woody Harrelson?

    
    	Keep in mind that this is a discrimination/harassment story,
    	and as far as I can tell the ages of the main characters are
    	rather important.
    
    	She's an up-and-coming executive who slept her way to the top,
    	and uses her youth/looks to get what she wants.  And who'd not
    	believe a claim of harassment coming from someone like her a-
    	gainst someone like him?
    
    	[Woody Harrelson??  And maybe they could get Robert Redford to
    	play that weasel from Singapore that runs the production line.
    	8^)]
    
    							GTI
    

>Keep in mind that this is a discrimination/harassment story,
>and as far as I can tell the ages of the main characters are
>rather important.

In the book, the character Douglas will play is about 35.  Now even though
he does't look the 50+ that he is, he doesn't look 35.  Both characters
are about the same age in the book.  But, it wouldn't be the first time
that Hollywood has changed details of a book to fit the big screen (The Firm).
They can get away with this because a lot more people will see the movie, they
hope, than will read the book.  I just wish I didn't find out about MD until
I finished the book.  But I realize Hollywood has to use people with certain
"Star" power.  I just think someone who didn't make a career lately out of 
being getting involved with psycho women would have fit the role better.  

I read something interesting about Douglas in the paper recently.  A few
years ago it was reported that he had to go to therapy to treat a sexual
addiction problem.  Douglas denies this and says the problem was alcohol.



Spoiler from the book anyway....







At the end of the book, Crichton informs us that this was a true story.  The
company is not ficticious nor are the characters.  All people portrayed in
the book were interviewed.  

Also in the book, the main character, Tom Sanders, once worked for Digital.

Paul

    
    
    M. Douglas has clout and box office draw...
    
    But I still agree with all of you....Demi Moore needs an actor
    her own age, There are many of them I just can't think of any now
    it's late & I will be going home soon, Bye_for_now!
    

    
    	I never liked M. Douglas anyway, so now I'm beyond tired of seeing
    	him. Just from the TV trailers of his movies.

    	Yet another "M.D. vs. the big bad women in the world who are all out 
    	to personally get him" film. Yuch. He plays male characters in such
    	a way that they all come off feeling like jerks. It's hard to feel
    	any sympathy for them. Next to him these menacing evil women seem
    	more worthy of sympathy, or you feel that he deserves his fate even
    	if it is unjust anyway. 

    	I have absolutely no desire to see this film, purely because M.D.
    	_is_ in it. I might have otherwise. So this 'star' formula didn't
    	work to pull me into the cinema. (And I suspect it won't for many
    	others either).

	-Erik

    I just read Vanity Fair (It has Michael Douglas on the cover).  The
    article was a good one.  Douglas just turned 50  (hes not 50+) He
    works well with characters on the edge....he also said the papers
    made things worse..he "had" a drinking problem not a sexual addition
    problem  but the  rags   put the sexual addition thing cause its
    was more in tune with the Characters he played in Basic Instinct
    and Fatal Attraction.....don't believe everything you read and see
    it could be misleading....I remember him from Streets of San Francisco
    and what about his other movies like Romancing the Stone and Falling
    Down....I think he's a very good actor and has paid some major dues
    along the way.....give the guy a break  ....

RE:                  <<< Note 716.7 by NEMAIL::TARDUGNOM >>>
   
    >>he "had" a drinking problem not a sexual addition problem
                                        ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^

     Is that the kind of thing where you keep adding people until the
whole is greater than the sum of the parts?

                                    Greg
     

Well....Has anyone seen the film?

Paul

disclosure is a good flick - i liked it better than the book, in fact,
which may be a first.  wife felt the same.  michael douglas is good in
the male lead and demi moore is appropriately arrogant and mean as the
bad guy/gal.  donald sutherland is wonderful as the ceo, so much so in fact,
that if he wasn't immediately recognizable, he could be put in front of
any corporate group in the country and fool 'em all.  the movie makes
some good points about sexual harassment, so there is some educational
value as well.  a solid three stars (out of four).

bill

Bill, 
	How were the virtual reality scenes?

Paul

    My wifesaw this movie over the weekend while I stayed home and watched
    the football game (go Pats!).  She was kind of disappointed in the
    movie.  Said it was very well made and photographed, but she didn't
    understand why the Demi Moore character would do what she did with
    Douglas' character the first day he was on the job.  It made no sense
    to her.  She also said the ending was stupid.  She's glad she went
    (she's not a football fan), but was glad she went with a friend of hers
    instead of me, since I would have liked it even less than her (in her
    opinion).
    
    NAZZ

    
    -1
    demi went after him 'cause they were old flames and she couldn't wait.
    being the boss, she didn't have to.  
    
    -2
    the virtual reality scene was exactly as i imagined it while reading
    the book.  good special effects, but i kept wondering why the demo
    they developed (looking through file cabinets) was so unimaginative. 
    

    SPoiler question...
    
    
    It's been a long time since I read the book, but didn't she initially
    attempt to seduce him because she knew he would back off... and maybe
    even request to be transferred, something to do with the new CD drive
    they were putting out that they didn't want him in the way?
    
    
    	Michael

    Re: .13
    
    >demi went after him 'cause they were old flames and she couldn't wait.
    >being the boss, she didn't have to.  
    
    Well, I guess they made some changes during script development, then. 
    My understanding from the book was that there was something of a
    deadline involved.

    Spoiler Question/Answer...
    
    
    
    I just finished the book and the reason Demi/Meredith moved on
    Michael/Tom so quickly was because she had authorized changed to a
    plant in Malasyia and need M/T out of the way so she could blame the
    changes on his production line.
    
    Roberta

    I noticed in the credits it mentioned Digital Equipment.  Not
    Corporation but...did we have anything to do with the technology used?
    
    Anyone know what E-mail package they used?  I thought it was pretty
    cool.
    
    I liked the movie.  

    
    	The E-mail looked too pretty to be practical for everyday use.
    
    	I have a feeling it's some kind of a demo package that was
    	developed for just this sort of situation ... a movie that
    	wanted a pretty graphics display.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    I thought the movie was very good, not as good as the book, but better
    than I expected.
    
    I happen to like Michael Douglas so I thought he did a great job, but
    not as good as Demi Moore's, she was EXCELLENT!!
    
    If you work in the hi-tech industry, you'll have a blast watching this
    movie.  Not only because you can relate to different situations, but
    some of the lines are pretty hilarious!
    
    

    Someone told me, that the equipment was all Silicon Graphics.
    I did n't see any small DEC thing in the movie.
    
    BTW, isn'there a real company called Digicom ?
    
    A.

DigiCom (WIKI-DOM)
   1818 Howard Avenue
   San Diego, CA 92103
   Domain Name: WIKI.COM

But note that the address used in the movie, digi.com, belongs to:

OnLine Design (DIGI-DOM)
   20 Borica Street
   San Francisco, CA 94127-2802
   Domain Name: DIGI.COM

  I have not seen the movie or read the book. I plan to see it when it comes
out on video.

>                                -< Could be... >-

>DigiCom (WIKI-DOM)

  I read a review of the movie and they thought the company was "Digitcomp".
Novelists and movie makers are cautious about using the name of a real company
as the subject of fiction (whether "based on fact" or not), though peripheral
references to real companies are OK, and some companies even pay movie
companies for the "free advertising".

> But note that the address used in the movie, digi.com, belongs to:

> OnLine Design (DIGI-DOM)

  ".com" in an Internet address stands for "commercial". It's just dumb luck
that a company called "Digicom" would be able to have an Internet address
identical to its name. 

    I rented this movie this weekend, now that it's out on laser and video.
    I was very disappointed - the plot felt weak and contrived, and Michael
    Douglas came across very whiny, in my opinion. 
    
    Spoiler after <lf>
    
    
	I felt his credibility was weakend considerably by the fact that he 
    	wouldn't tell his wife what had occurred. In fact, he didn't seem
    	likely to tell her all except that another department head brought
    	it out in the open at a party they all attended.
    

    Well, I haven't seen the movie, but I can tell you how it played out in
    the book:
    
    
    
    When he gets home, his wife tells him that Meredith called about
    tomorrow's meeting.  He doesn't say anything.  Then, when he decides to
    go ahead with the suit, he tells his wife everything and advises her to
    take the kids out of town for a while.
    
    I had no desire to see the movie because I could imagine all too
    clearly how Hollywood would play it out.

	I rented this one a couple of weeks ago and was VERY pleasently
	surprised at how good it was!

	From the few trailers I saw it looked like it was going to be
	another Fatal Attraction or another type movie.  It was just
	the opposite however, and the technical accuracy of the work
	really made this film a winner!

    I rented this over the weekend and liked it...better than the
    book.  Granted it's not Oscar material, but it was good.
    
    Sue

  I saw this on tape a week or so ago and felt it was pretty good. The
characters were quite believable, the acting was good, the direction was good
and for Hollywood the movie was pretty good from the technical point of view. 

  Nothing earth shattering but well worth seeing on tape instead of what ever
the networks are serving up on a sunday night.

  *** out of 5,
  George

    Thumbs up from my husband and I.  We rented this last Saturday night;
    four days later I'm still talking and thinking about this movie.
    
    Donald Sutherland was outstanding in his performance.  He played his
    part to perfection; you'd actually think he was the head of some
    computer company like DigiCom.  Demi Moore was a perfect pick and
    surprisingly Michael Douglas was a good selection.  I had, like other
    noters, some misgivings on Michael playing this role but it turned
    out o.k.  
    
    The movie was a bit slow at the beginning but the pace picks up as the
    story unfolds.
    
    Question:  Is this the role where Demi Moore was paid the largest
    sum any female actor has ever received?
    
    PChaplinsky

    RE: 716.28
    
    > Is this the role where Demi Moore was paid the largest
    > sum any female actor has ever received?
    
    No, that would be her forthcoming part in "Strip Tease".