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    I saw this movie last night at a sneak preview, and it kept my total
    attention the entire two hours or so. It was a very good action
    thriller, with Dennis Hopper the ever-so-typecast villain/psycho and
    Keanu Reeves as his cop-in-pursuit. Also starred Jeff Daniels and
    Sandra Bullock (where have I seen her before?).
    
    Good cast...good action...good thriller...
    
    Catherine
    

    
    Wasn't Sandra Bullock in 'Demolition Man'?
    
    Schwing!

    
    We went to see this at this weekend's sneak preview because it was a
    way to get two movies for the price of one -- people who went to the
    sneak got to see The Crow for free, and we wanted to see that again.
    
    A good vehicle for Keanu Reeves, because the main character as written
    complements his style of acting very well, a style I would describe as
    "not highly emotive."  The script is not very demanding, although
    there's none of the mismatch between the depths of the supporting cast
    and the leads one sees so frequently in action movies.  A good physical
    role for him -- it's nice to see that he can do things besides stand
    around and look sullen or stoned.
    
    For 90% of the film, it's terrific.  Good psychological confrontation
    between Reeves and the villian, played by Dennis Hopper.  Sandra
    Bullock spends all her time acting smart and lets looking good take
    care of itself, a pleasant change for an action movie heroine.  Reeves
    is not omnipotent, merely competent and mostly calm.  With all this
    going for it, I did not have any trouble suspending disbelief for the
    bus.
    
    Three and a half stars out of five.  They lost it in the last ten
    minutes for me, because...
    
    <spoiler warning>
    
    <I really mean it -- this could ruin the film for you>
    
    ...there is the most glaring technical error I've seen in a film since
    Timothy Dalton made a semi-tractor do a wheelie in The Living
    Daylights.
    
    The entire final sequence depends on the notion of a runaway subway
    train.  The operator was shot by Hopper.
    
    Subway trains for many years have been designed so that if something
    happens to the operator (heart attacks are the more likely example, but
    bullets fall in the same category) the train comes to a stop.  Bullets
    into the control panel would more likely trigger the system than
    disable it.
    
    Not to mention that a lot of subway trains are built so that the
    passengers can stop the train in an emergency.
    
    And it really wasn't necessary.  Oh, yes, we needed the final
    confrontation between Reeves and Hopper, but that could have been done
    in any one of two dozen more reasonable ways.  It was a hideously
    obvious case of the script being engineered for the sake of a special
    effect.

    Sandra Bullock was in:
    
    Love Potion #9
    The Vanishing (1993)
    and
    Who Shot Pat?
    
    
    Michael

    As well as Demolition Man.

.5>     As well as Demolition Man.

	See .2

    reply to 563.3
    
    "its a  change from Keanu standing around looking stupid or stoned"
    Scuse me but  I must be the only one who REALLY liked
    "Point Break"  He didn't look to stupid or stoned to me!
    as the FBI agent.
    
    I think if the roles he took were meatier, he would rise to the
    occasion................I've always been a fan of his
    and looking forward to seeing him in "Little Buddha" which is
    supposed to be excellant.
    
    Thats only my estimation of his acting ability... that he will 
    get better as he goes along  anyway  he's soooo good to look at  
    who cares what he's in.  

    Re: .6
    
    That was a question, not a statement.
    
    
    Re: .7
    
    >I must be the only one who REALLY liked "Point Break"
    
    I didn't REALLY like it, but I liked it.  Though "Johnny Utah" is a
    truly stupid name.  Way up there with "Cole Trickle."

    Seems like the story line is picked up from and old movie called
    "Taking of Pelham 123". The difference being this movie is set in NY
    and it is a train which is planted with a rigged bomb set to explode if
    the speed falls below ?? mph.
    
    Guess the industry depends on remakes with changes.
    
    Rahul.
    

    
    Well, it was kinda fun and it was kinda nice n' action-y and yeah, you
    do gotta suspend your disbelief quite a bit.   Keanu, alas, seems like
    a nice enough guy (I read an interview with him, he does seem earnest
    enough towards his acting career), but he's still a wooden
    dialog-deliverer.  He did emote somewhat, and to good effect, but every
    time he opened his mouth, same inflection, same tone.  He and Keifer
    Sutherland and Kevin Costner should make a movie together, with Andie
    MacDowell as the token female.   Brr.
    
    Anyway, I liked it.  For me, they coulda made a whole movie about the
    perils of the people riding the elevator -- I have a minor phobia about 
    elevators, stemmed upon seeing the movie "Earthquake".  Remember when the 
    elevator fell?  And it went "Splat", complete with added cartoon
    "splash" of blood to let us know, in no uncertain terms, the people
    inside went Splat?  I think another elevator fell in the movie "The 
    Towering Inferno".  Splat.  I've not been able to set foot in one of those
    things since without "Splat" going through my mind.  
    
    (mind you, I also saw the "Poseidon Adventure" in a drive in with my
    mom n dad and much younger brother.  Sensitive child that I was, I wept
    during the whole movie ["Everybody's DYING!" -- I guess the name Irwin
    Allen didn't quite equate to "yes, in my movies, almost everybody dies"
    yet], and I still am taken with a compulsion to decimate the radio
    should I hear that song "There's Got to Be a Morning After".  :)
    
    
    
    So, anyway, after the elevator/setting up the rest of the movie scene, I
    think the rest was a bit lacking because it got more unbelievable. The
    bus did some stunts buses just don't do.  But -- it was still fun. 
    Without giving away huge insights on the plot, the bus smashed into a
    lot of things, and that was fun (you have to wonder how much all those
    fictional drivers-who-got-hit sued the City of Santa Monica for, since
    that's where the bus came from).   The LAPD or Santa Monica PD (not
    sure) acted ept (although their traffic control/fast reaction to a
    crisis operations needed work).   There were some nice little plot
    things which came out neatly and one instance of morbid humor that I
    think I might have been the only person in the theatre to pick up on
    (I'll tag it onto the end of the message under a spoiler warning). 
    

    The movie really lost some momentum (so to speak) once we entered the
    subway, and not for the reason that DFW stated in his "this blew it for
    me spoiler" sort of thought -- it felt kinda like a Stephen King book (or 
    most John Cameron movies) in that the movie seemed as if it were uncertain
     where to end.  Here?  No, we can do this. Here?  Uh, no let's add this.  
    The climatic fight between Good Guy and Bad Guy was hurried, seemed edited 
    and anticlimatic.   The climatic big SPX scene seemed ill thought out, 
    corny to force love interest and not as splashy as oh, a building blowing 
    up (ala Die Hard).  
       

    The acting:
    
    Sandra Bullock, always cute and perky, was a bit *too* flip and perky 
    (she can't help being cute) for someone who's been  literally tossed into 
    the driver's seat of a bomb.  As stated, Keanu was effective enough, yet 
    wooden.  Jeff Daniels, who hasn't been working enough these days, was 
    good fun as The Partner.  Dennis Hopper was, well, Dennis Hopper. 
       
             
    Again, though, it was good summer fun.  If you like action, you'll like
    it.  Check oh, 25% of your brain at the door and you won't have any
    problems with it at all.
    
    *** out of ****
    
    
    kim                            
    
                                            
       

    

    This is an action movie that delivers the goods, without a lot of
    annoying features that have become standard in the genre.  Only one car
    chase (of course, we're on a bus most of the time, so we can't get off
    and chase someone), no arcade-style gun battles where the hero picks
    off baddies with his sidearm while the uzi-bearing baddies keep missing
    the hero, and a low body count (lots of vehicular damage, though). 
    Also, the usual wiseacre attitude is way toned down.  Most action heros
    toss off one-liners with a "See how witty I am" attitude.  These people
    seemed to be using humor to deal with their tension, rather than to
    impress the audience.
    
    The action delivers lots of suspense and thrills.  You know they're
    going to make it, of course, but still, the assorted complications are
    exciting.  The ending was too much, though; they started to repeat
    themselves, and it stretches the boundaries of Murphy's Law.
    
    Perennial favorites Sandra Bullock and Joe Morton show up in the
    usually thankless roles of The Girl and The Boss.  Jeff Daniels also
    lends good support as The Partner.  (They don't do much with him in the
    middle of the movie; I enjoyed their work in the opening gambit.) 
    Dennis Hopper plays the Psycho with a little understatement, which is
    nice.  And Keanu Reeves was solid as Our Hero.
    
    I feel I got my $6.50 worth.  In fact, I'd see it again, definitely at
    a matinee and maybe even full price.
    
    Spoiler discussion after formfeed:
    
    
    
    I really HATE the dead meat cliche.  As Jack and Harry head off to
    check out the elevator, I told my friend Harry was gonna die by the end
    of the movie.  I had hopes that he might survive when he was          
    office-bound.  But no, they had to go out of their way to blow him up.

    
    Well it lived up to my expectations. Lots of action and destruction,
    good acting and some great moments.
    
    Well worth the money.
    
    Dave
    

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     When Jeff Daniels walked into that house, I just knew it was rigged
    for blast off.   I really liked him as Keanu's  Partner....good
    choice...I was sorry when they killed him off so soon....
    Another thing is the low keyed aspect  no real wise-cracking all the 
    time  just when warrented  was  a  good thing.... I agree it was 
    a nice change from the usual fare that you get
                              

    re.14
    
    I was going to mention that scene,the look on his face...uh-oh.
    
    
    

    re:15
    Spoiler
    
    I didn't look at my watch  Was that 1/2 way thru the movie???
    that Jeff got bumped?

    SPOILER:  RE: another Scene 
    
    
    WHAT did you think of: ??
    The sequence when Keanu  had to get under the bus  to look at the
    type of bomb that was there    and he was on that contraption
    to wheel him under the bus.....i was getting  NERVOUS   with his
    legs and feet getting  tooooo close to the bus's wheels..!!yikes!!

    HBO has a program 'THE MAKING OF SPEED' which showed how some of hte
    special effects were done.  Pretty awsome.  I've heard mixed reviews
    about the movie - probably something my husband would like to see as a
    guy flick.
    
    -sjd
    

    See "The Making of Speed" only *after* seeing the film. They give
    away a lot of the plot twists and surprises.
    
    -- Bill

    
    	This is one of the next movies I'm going to go and see ... looks
    	excellent!!
    
    	And no, "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3" wasn't that similar.  The
    	subway in that movie wasn't rigged so that it'd go off at a
    	certain speed, but rather had a group of hijackers that refused
    	to give up their hostages until they got an enormous ransom
    	[maybe $1M?] from the city.  Of course, unhooking the cars from
    	the engine could be seen as somewhat similar, but not quite.
    
    	Also an excellent movie, BTW.
    
    							GTI

    Yeah it was a gooood movie  (while I saw "Wolf" this past weekend
    I was sitting there  wanting to sneak into the   "Speed"  section
    so I could see it  again....   definitely going to see SPEED a 
    second time at the movies....then again at video rental time!!

    
    Have to give my two thumbs up here.  Neat and minimalistic.  Just the
    way I like these kinds of movies.  
    
    And as for Keanu's wooden acting...  maybe so, but it isn't as bad as
    Dennis Hopper's same-old-psycho characters.  I would have rather seen
    someone like Christopher Walken carry his part.  Dennis just couldn't
    pull it off for me.  
    
    But they did give Keanu too many Arny one-liners.
    
    Guess I'll reward the story and the direction for taking this one over 
    the top.  It gave me what I thought Demo Man would but didn't.
    
    Great summer action flick.
    
    - Sean
    
     

    re .20
    
    I had seen the movie 'taking...' a long time ago - 70's. I have not
    seen it again so I have to depend on my memory. But I distinctly
    remember that the entire track was ordered cleared by the
    superintendant of the railways (or whatever he is called) and that the
    train was not stopped externally (easy job for electrically run
    trains). The storyline entirely depend on the train being continuously
    in motion.
    
    So I conclude that the bomb was rigged to set off if the speed fell
    below a certain speed.
    
    But then you may be right.
    
    Cheers.
    Rahul.
    

    
    	Hmmm, I'll have to find it and watch it again.  Now you have
    	me wondering.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

    
    
    I really enjoyed this movie.  Granted you had to suspend belief during
    certain scenes, but all in all in was a fun movie.  I really liked the
    interaction of Sandra Bullock and Keanu.  I thought they were perfectly
    cast.  I couldn't picture anyone else that would have fit better with
    Keanu.  The only problem I have with Keanu is that it seems like in all
    his movies he can not get rid of that Surfer Dude language.  In all of
    his films, he just sounds like a surfer.  Oh, well.  It was worth
    paying full price admission.
    
    JMO.
    Serena
    

    
    I saw this movie over the weekend and I guess I went into with too high
    a hopes... I thought MOST of the action scenes were Tooo far fetched
    even if you wanted to suspend all logic at the door. 
    
    I liked the way it began.. but it went down hill from there. 
    
    
    
    I mean really fine rig the bus so that if it drops below a certain
    speed it blows but 50! on several of the camera shots they didn't 
    even try to hide the fact that the bus wasn't going over 15 MPH.
    This happened more times than I could keep count... then a 3 ton 
    bus going 70MPH cna't jump a 50ft gap without a ramp actually not at
    all bring the bus up to 100+ and put some junk at the end for the bus 
    to catapult off of, do something to at least make me think ok well 
    that might be possible! but a flat road that just stops doesn't make
    the front end pitch 90degrees when it leaves the ground.... Then the 
    subway blows through the end of the subway line, derails,  crashes up 
    through the street rolls around and the front windows don't even blow
    out that's tough glass.... 
    
    Sorry to moan but I just expected more, why I don't know...  
    
    One scene I liked although very predictinble was when Keanu's partner 
    figures out who Hopper is goes to his house only to get inside and 
    realize he screwed up and the house was rigged to blow.  The motion 
    detector on the house alarm causes the house ot go.  The look on
    Harry's face was pretty good. 
    
    Rp 
         

    Re: .26
    
    >I thought MOST of the action scenes were Tooo far fetched even if you 
    >wanted to suspend all logic at the door. 
    
    I suggest you stay away from _True Lies_.  Far-fetched action scenes
    are a staple of Arnold movies, especially with Cameron directing.

    
    Re: 27  I had seen True Lies prior to Speed and although they too 
    were far fetched there was a slim chance that it was at least possible 
    that the effects in True lies might happen... I guess my frame of mind 
    going into True Lies allowed them to get away with things... It was 
    an overall fictional/humorous type of story... while going into Speed 
    it was more of a serious type movie with supposedly a serious plot 
    and serious characters.. What was humorous were the attempt at serious 
    effects. In True Lies you went in not taking it serious and that
    reaction stayed with you throughout the whole movie. 
    
    Just my opinion but Speed was much bigger a let down that True Lies. 
    
    Rp 
    
     
    

    I, on the other hand, preferred Speed to True Lies.  Speed was a 
    rollercoaster ride with some major reaches, but the momentum of the
    story carried me over them.  Sort of like the bus.  ;-)  I particularly 
    liked the ratio of high action to low body count.  
    
    In True Lies I really liked the performances of Jamie Lee Curtis and
    Tom Arnold.  As some point, however, I was turned off by the high
    body count and laughs based on how someone was killed.  A cheap trick
    in my book.
    
    As to the relative credibility of the action, what they did to one
    of the Florida Keys in True Lies was a REAL stretch.
    
    clb
    

    
    	I finally saw this over the w'end, and all I can say is that
    	it was great.  Well, I could say more, but I don't feel like
    	it [so there!!].
    
    	Had me on the edge of my seat 95% of the time.  I finally got
    	a look at Sandra Bullock, and she's as cute as I heard she
    	was.
    
    	Small spoiler:
    
    
    	The bus jumping the 50' gap in the road was a little far-
    	fetched, even though, as Keanu said, "there's an incline so
    	it might work".  I'm no physics major, but I did take some,
    	and I'm pretty sure that even going up an inclined surface,
    	an object will start to descend as soon as it has nothing
    	supporting it.  And therefore the landing area would have
    	to be lower than the take-off area, or, as was obviously the
    	case, there was a ramp at the take-off area.
    
    							GTI
    

    Re: .30
    
    The mechanics of jump:
    
    
    
    The takeoff definitely used a ramp.  The landing was from a much
    shorter jump (which also used a ramp).

    Finally caught this one, and enjoyed it; the action carried me along
    even while I was making mental "This is ridiculous" notes, and kept me
    on the edge of the seat even though I knew how it was going to come
    out. (My favorite line was from Alan Ruck's character, the hapless
    tourist on the bus. <Minor spoiler...>
    
    
    
    He'd complained early on about how it had taken him three hours to get 
    to town from the airport, and when the bus finally made its way back
    there again, the look on his face was priceless. "It's the airport," he
    said numbly. "Yeah, so?" said somebody else. His bewildered reply: "I've 
    _seen_ it already."
    
    -b

    Coming to video already ... Speed will be available on November 15.
    I've reserved a copy for $13.99 in a local video store.  As someone 
    who's seen this movie an absurd number of times, fast output to video
    has me thrilled to death!
    
    Karen.

    I was surprised how much I liked this movie - great action throughout.
    I agree with previous replies that much of it is incredulous but that
    didn't take away from the excitement.
    
    

Hello everyone,  

I'm always enjoying this conference in Japan and happy to know the newest 
information about movies.

By the way, does everyone know the truth about the rumor that Keanu Reeves
got married to the MAN called David Geffen.  What is he?
There is no information on the magazine or newspapers in Japan, I want to 
know about it.  
Actually, I was really shocked!!

Kaori Suzuki @TKO

    
    	David Geffen is the president of Geffen Records [possibly called
    	the David Geffen Corporation, or DGC].
    
    	I'm not sure if the rumor is true or not, but I did hear the
    	same thing a couple weeks ago.
    

    He's also one of the three folks (along with Steven Spielberg and
    Jeffrey Kazenberg) who started that new studio (Dreamworks SKG or
    something like that).
    
    
    kim

    Hello,
    
    here in Switzerland we heard the same rumor but some weeks after in an
    another magazine it seems that it was not true. Keanu is still single.
    Apparently he want to make a "lawsuit" for wrong information. Now we
    still don't know if it's right or not. If Keanu is really married
    with this man probably his manager think that it will make him
    unpopular to his fan so .... Nobody knows, maybe it's true maybe not. 
    
    Flo 

    I keep thinking (when I heard this rumor) that since SPEED was such
    a success for Keanu, it was an attempt at a Smear Campaign...from
    persons unknown..(not to name names but Charlie Sheean and his brother 
    Emilio Estevez, in an interview, said some things that were really 
    dripping with jealousy and vindictiveness, that of all people Keanu
    should have this kind of success with this picture, that they could
    have done better) ha dream on.....
    
    
    
    
    

I'm amazed at the general good reviews this movie has gotten here.
I finally rented it over the past weekend, not expecting much, 
but getting less.
The plot holes were just TOO obvious.

details....

If Dennis Hopper's character really wanted the money, and it seemed he did,
why would he put his hostages in SUCH a precarious position that he was 
not in control?  If the bus blows up, because of an accident, or having 
to slow down, or running out of road, he's lost all leverage.
Maybe he's happy, but he's out a lot of his own money (all that equipment 
and plastique) and he's no closer to his goal.

He put a video bug on the bus, but no low-bandwidth audio?
He had no monitor on the bus to detect that it had blown up, or at least
that his devices hadn't been disabled?

The runaway subway was stupid.  We have to believe there's a live 
third rail running into and presumably through a construction zone?
And that the throttle will work well enough to speed the train up to 70mph
but not arbitrarily slow it down?

The opening elevator gambit was good, and I agree with the previous noter's
abservation about Sandra Bullock "acting competent and letting looking
good just happen."

But this movie was a loser........

- tom]

>>But this movie was a loser........

	Aye.  'Twas major league bad, I thought.

    I rented this movie a while back and was very dissappointed as I
    expected a good movie given all the great reviews.  I was barely
    able to watch half of the movie and couldn't keep quiet about the
    poor acting so I went to bed and left my husband to watch the rest
    of it on his own.
    
    Some movies you like and some you don't.
    
    PChaplinsky 

    Re: .40
    
    Personally, I didn't pay tons of attention to the details.  What I like
    about it is that it has the right kind of energy.  I got caught up in
    the suspense even when I watched it a second time.  Also, a minimum of
    the mano-a-mano macho machine gun crap that Die Hard kicked off.
    
    Regarding spoilers:
    
    
    
    >If the bus blows up, because of an accident, or having to slow down, or 
    >running out of road, he's lost all leverage.
    
    Not necessarily.  He can do it again, and the police take him all the
    more seriously, knowing that he's not bluffing.
    
    >He put a video bug on the bus, but no low-bandwidth audio?
    
    Buses are kinda noisy, what with those big engines and all.
    
    >He had no monitor on the bus to detect that it had blown up, or at
    >least that his devices hadn't been disabled?
    
    I guess he trusts his ability to build a secure bomb -- and he was
    counting on the news networks to let him know if it blew.
    
    >The runaway subway was stupid.
    
    My impression was, "Haven't we done this already?"

    
    
    I've noticed some of the conferencers over analyze these pictures
    to death... 
    
    Speed just hit the $300 million mark....It was a good action film
    with pretty good characters.... I think Jan DuBont did an excellent
    job of shooting this picture, Keanu Reeves got to show another side
    of himself as action good guy (yum), Dennis Hopper did NOT over act
    loved him as the bad guy, Sandra Bullock was terrific !
    
    It would NOT have made THAT much money if it stunk...Word of mouth
    and movie conferences like these spread bad news (and good) f a s t..
    
    I for one loved this movie, being an action flick fan..... I can
    hardly wait for Johnny Mneumonic Keanu's next film to be released
    this summer.... Even True Lies (which i did not enjoy) didn't make 
    THREE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS!
    Its rare when that happens with a film of this kind so it has to be 
    terrific in order to go over the 100 Million mark..
    
    on a scale of 1 to 10,  10 being the highest  I rate this an 11
    keep those action films coming.... 

>>    It would NOT have made THAT much money if it stunk...

	I don't believe this is true.  I think the movie was lousy.
	But it's purely a matter of opinion.  There is no right
	or wrong about it.  If you enjoyed the movie, that's great.
	

    Re: .44
    
    >It would NOT have made THAT much money if it stunk...
    
    No?  Consider "Ace Ventura."

    
    	"Ace Ventura" was NOT lousy.  8^)
    

    please.... no more Ace Ventura blasting!  I had enough if it in the
    ACE VENTURA topic :-)
    
    now... if you'd like to discuss movies that stunk that made a lot of
    money... (a) open another topic and (b) open the discussion with "TRUE 
    LIES". 
    
    
    Steve\
    

    Steve,
     b)"Open the conf with True Lies" (meaning that was terrible?)
    I agree with you on that one.....   
    
    I think there already is a conf. on  lousy movies.
    
    All I'm saying is that  (nothing could be as bad as Ace Ventura
    haha)     OH forget it...
    
    

  A bus chase. Great, next time let's do dump trucks.

  Saw this movie on HBO. It was fun, I have to give it that. Dennis Hopper
plays his psycho bad guy again and it's good to see he hasn't forgotten how
but he doesn't come up with anything new. If you can only see him play this
part once, rent Blue Velvet. 

  The leading guy adds nothing. Sandra Bullock's pretty but we've already got a
Julia Roberts, the real one, why do we need another? So what's new about this
film? ... The bus chase. 

  Oh, and a subway chase. Now that's real exciting. "Dam, can't figure out how
to shut this thing off". We all know you have to be a rocket scientist to drive
a subway train, let's see there's 

  "Open Doors"
  "Close Doors"
  "Stop"
  "GO"

  What, there must be at least two controls to get one of those darn things to
work. Got'ah be hard trying to figure out which one is which, especially
when one's labeled "Open Door" and the other one labeled "Stop".

  What a stupid movie.

  Really good effects, good explosions, they did a great job with the bus.
But it was a bus. Now if they had done that with a steam engine or a fire truck
maybe but a bus? And a city bus at that. 

  Do NOT pay a lot to see this movie,

  ** out of 5
  George

>>  Do NOT pay a lot to see this movie,

	In fact, demand that they pay _you_.  ;>

I am not sure if its mentioned in here:

<spoiler warning>

- The theme is exactly similar to "Bullet Train" set in Japan, where the train
  would blow up if it gets below some speed. So they in bring another
  train parallel to this one on the next track, place a plank have the guy
  sit on it and defuse the bomb. That was much more thrilling.

- This I read in MAD magazine.. How come this guy who takes all the troubles
  to see that he stops the bus before it crosses 50, can't think one - simple,
  often used trick - just_shoot_at_the_tires. Simple, effective.. He even
  tries to board the bus to explain the driver to stop. All this is fine
  if he didn't have a gun, but he had one  -): ):

  Spoiler stuff


  Well for that matter he didn't have to wire it to the speed gage at all,
he could have just set it off with a transmitter. I think the idea was that
he was nuts and wanted to set up this particular puzzle for the cop.

  George

    Well it seems there will be a Speed II comin up soon, but previous star
    Keanu Reeves doesn't want to play in this one!
    
    	He says he's fed up with staying in shape and eating properly for
    these parts...he also says something like, I don't want to be a action
    hero on screen.  Eevn if Sandra is in...he isn't!
    
    	You couldn't keep me from starring in a flick with her! (if given
    the opertunity of course)

    
    	I think he's a moron for not wanting to be in a sequel.
    

    >he also says something like, I don't want to be a action
    >hero on screen.  Eevn if Sandra is in...he isn't!
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Ummm, I heard a rumor a couple years ago that he got (married ?!)
    to David Geffen.  Was that true?  Even if it was only half-true
    or whatever, it might explain his feelings.  :')
    
     

    re .57

>    Ummm, I heard a rumor a couple years ago that he got (married ?!)
>    to David Geffen.  Was that true?  

    It's not true. When the rumor was flying, they had never met.

    Lisa

    
    
    What's the point in a sequel when the leading actor isn't going to
    be in it? 
    
    Chris
    :)

    This could also have something to do with the fact that Keanu recently
    came out and announced he was the brother of Vic.... (I heard the other
    day.)
    
    ;-)
    
    Stephen

>     Well it seems there will be a Speed II comin up soon, but previous star
>     Keanu Reeves doesn't want to play in this one!
>     
>     	He says he's fed up with staying in shape and eating properly for
>     these parts...he also says something like, I don't want to be a action
>     hero on screen.  Eevn if Sandra is in...he isn't!

	When this news broke it was said Reeves couldn't do the movie
	in the time frame planned because he was currently focusing
	on the rock band he is in (which has played on Letterman FWIW).

    Yeah...I think they're called Dogstar....and he does want to
    concentrate on the band more...does anyone know if they're any good?

    
    	Hopefully they're better than Johnny Depp's band, P.
    

>   <<< Note 563.55 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Baroque: when you're out of Monet" >>>

>    	I think he's a moron for not wanting to be in a sequel.

	superfluous verbiage alert
    

    
    	He always spoke very highly of you.
    

    I don't think it would be the same without him and Sandra both in the
    movie.
    
    P

    DOGSTAR     should be called DOGSH!T
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    			Woody.
    

    Boston Globe gave them a pretty good review when they were in town last
    year.
    
    NAZZ