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344.0. "Rocky Horror Picture Show" by 24728::WOOD () Mon Oct 04 1993 15:12

    
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	HOLLYWOOD (UPI) -- There is only one genuine, certified, authentic
cult movie in the known universe and it is ``The Rocky Horror Picture
Show.''
	Other claimants cannot compare with this outrageous, off-the-wall
musical romp from 1975 involving sex, transvestism, madness and kinky
horror.
	Most so-called cult films are seen by a million or two people over a
limited time span, but ``The Rocky Horror Picture Show'' is still going
strong after 18 years of midnight screenings around the world.
	More than just a motion picture, the production is a happening.
	Cultists attend midnight screenings dressed in wardrobe copied from
the film. They don grotesque makeup and shout the dialogue in unison
along with the cast. In many theaters the audience prances on stage,
singing and dancing with the images on the screen.
	The movie ``Fame'' included a scene in which the New York Performing
Arts High School student body participated in a typical ``Rocky Horror
Picture Show'' ritual.
	Unlike any other cult picture, this one has been a major box-office
smash.
	It makes its world TV premiere on the Fox network Oct. 25 -- for the
first time on TV, according to Fox.
	The man most responsible for this landmark movie is Lou Adler, who
produced the Los Angeles stage version at the Roxy Theater in 1973 after
seeing the original production in London.
	Adler, one of Hollywood's wealthiest men, formed the Dunhill and Ode
Records companies and was Herb Alpert's partner in A&M Records. All
three were sold for enormous profits.
	He has produced the movies ``Brewster McCloud,'' ``Cheech and Chong's
Up in Smoke'' and ``Shock Treatment,'' yet Adler's major claim to fame
may be his association with ``The Rocky Horror Picture Show.''
	When it was first sneak-previewed in Santa Barbara, a mostly
conservative enclave north of Los Angeles dominated by retired folk, the
packed theater emptied of all but 13 people, before the third reel.
	Adler, holding his head, said, ``I'll never forget that night. We sat
on the curb and listened to people shouting angrily at the theater
manager.
	``Wherever we opened the picture around the country it closed the
next day. Everybody hated our film. It was a total bomb.
	``A few theaters were willing to try it at midnight on weekends. One
was in Austin, Texas. I phoned every week and was told 50 or 60 people a
weekend paid to see it.
	``After five or six weeks I asked the manager what the mix of the
audience was and he said, 'Oh, it's the same people every week!' That's
when I thought we might have something, so we kicked off in other
theaters and audience participation followed.
	``At one time we were playing more than 300 theaters with midnight
showings. Eight years ago Fox tried to distribute it widely and it
bombed again. You can't surprise people with this film. It frightens
them. They don't know what to think. But the younger generation adopted
it as their own.''
	In 1975 the cast was unknown: Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon, Barry
Bostwick, Richard O'Brien, Meatloaf, Jonathan Adams, and Little Nell
Campbell.
	The story was simplicity itself. Sarandon and Bostwick play a
straight young couple with car trouble who enter a weird old mansion on
a stormy night only to encounter a coven of freaks from Transylvania.
	The couple soon get into the swing of rock music and the bizarre
goings-on, gyrating to such songs as ``Time Warp,'' ``Dammit Janet'' and
``Wild and Untamed Thing.''
	Nothing like it had ever been seen before.
	``Now other movies have a hard time defining cult films if they put
them up against our picture,'' said Adler. ``It's just incredible.
	``It cost $900,000. Who thought it would still be playing 18 years
later. A couple of days ago we figured out it's taken in about $175
million, which is outstanding when you average the ticket price at about
$4.
	``If you multiply the number of people who have seen it by the same
price they paid to see 'Jurassic Park,' we'd probably be up around $350
million or something.
	``The film's popularity is worldwide. Three years ago we finally got
into Brazil, Mexico and Spain where it had been banned. It's big in
Japan and we're going for China and Russia next.
	``We are taking a crack at interactive TV with our debut by cutting
away from the film to show audience participation in theaters.
	``'Rocky Horror Picture Show' has run longest in the NuArt Theater
here in Los Angeles. Fourteen years of Friday and Saturday midnight
showings. It's a combined stage show as audiences get up and perform
along with the film.
	``The demographics shows kids 15 or 16 go to see it over three or
four years, and then take their younger siblings. Then the parents want
to see what the kids are watching, so they go along too.
	``I never thought I'd live to see the day when 'The Rocky Horror
Picture Show' was a family entertainment.''


    
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344.1Not For Me I Guess58379::DAYLife's A Dance You Learn as You GoWed Oct 06 1993 07:2612
    Wow!!!!!!!!,
    
    
           about four years ago I watched the "Rocky Horror Picture Show"
    via video I think mainly because a friend had spoke so highly of the
    film. I had a hard time getting into the show, and didn't like it at
    all, I found it really weird.
    
          I think I was expecting something completely different, therefore
    to me it wa a complete let down.
    
    
344.229065::S_VORENothing Unreal ExistsWed Oct 06 1993 12:535
    I've got it on tape, but have only watched it once on the tube.  Small
    screen & no audience just dosn't cut it; if you want to see this for
    the first time (Virgin!) do yourself a flavor and DON'T find the tape. 
    Find someone to go with, preferrable someone with a good supply of
    toilet paper, rice, newspapers...
344.3A bit of trivia....60716::VISSEREscaping virtual realityThu Oct 07 1993 06:0114
    One of the movie cast, Richard O'Brien, is the author of the original
    stage play in London.
    
    I have seen the stage play with Gary Glitter playing Frank N. Furter,
    what a gas that night was.....
    
    I have seen the movie (17 times) at midnight showings - definitely
    needs audience participation for it to be fun.
    
    cheers
    
    ..klaas..
    (takin' a step to the right....)
    
344.444234::GGOODMANRippled, with a flat undersideThu Oct 07 1993 14:246
>    One of the movie cast, Richard O'Brien, is the author of the original
>    stage play in London.
      
    He plays the butler, Riff Raff...
    
    Graham.
344.512658::benceLife itself is the proper binge.Thu Oct 07 1993 20:0617
    
    
    I actually got to see the stage play (London, 1974).  I went on a
    whim with no prior knowledge of plot, though I did have a clue that
    it would be unusual based on the attire of some members of the audience
    (lots of glitter and sparkle).
    
    The beginning of the show seemed relatively mundane until the first
    "appearance" of the good Doctor.  There was a ramp extending from the
    stage out into the audience.  At the critical moment a spotlight
    kicked in and there, immediately to port, was Tim Curry lovingly clad
    in black mesh tights standing in a cascade of light and glitter.
    
    Wow....
    
    <clb>
344.6A mind f@#% is nice every oncein awhile...;-)8269::MARTINNokay,now what?....Sat Oct 09 1993 08:179
    
    re.<clb>
    
    I'm envious!!!!! Lucky you!!!! :^)
    
    I absolutely love this movie and especially the good Dr.! ;-)
    
    
    			Natalie
344.7But then to the US, they *are* the whole world :-)46010::MARSHALLSpitfire Drivers Do It ToplessMon Oct 11 1993 13:516
>> It makes its world TV premiere on the Fox network Oct. 25 -- for the
>> first time on TV, according to Fox.

Been on TV in Britain several times...

Scott
344.844234::GGOODMANRippled, with a flat undersideMon Oct 11 1993 15:0210
>>> It makes its world TV premiere on the Fox network Oct. 25 -- for the
>>> first time on TV, according to Fox.

> Been on TV in Britain several times...

    Twice if memory serves me right. Strange that we beat them to the TV
    Premier. The video was banned for years in the UK and was only released
    either 2 or 3 years ago...
    
    Graham.
344.9You'll always remember 'the first time'42712::SMITHAIl y a une sange, dans l'arbreThu Oct 14 1993 07:3615
True, you have to see this for the first time at a midnight showing in a movie
house - the sleazier the better.

I lost my 'virginity' at a midnight showing in Thousand Oaks Ca. in 1980.
I friend and I from the UK were travelling the States and a girl we met
insisted that we had to be initiated. Amazing.

We went along with no idea what to expect and were just blown away by the
audience participation. All the rice, the water-sprays, newspapers, toast, the
participants in front of the screen (question - who decides who's going to
'perform' given that there are so many dressed for the part - are there
spontaneous auditions ???). It was all a blast.


T.
344.103228::BELFORTIPFYOWSWed Oct 20 1993 13:4310
    
    Are there any midnight showings going on here in the NH area???  For
    Saturday nights???????

    I have the video and love it, but have never seen it on the big
    screen... and am DYING to!  The other secretary wants to see it too,
    and has never seen it.. I will be loaning her my tape, but would rather
    introduce her to the good Dr. and his co-horts, bigger than life!

    M-L
344.1157799::BUCKLEYlead us still, as thou hast lead..Mon Oct 25 1993 17:595
    Any New England-area midnight showings that still allow all the
    audience madness this film is renowned for??  While this continues
    to show weekends in Cambridge in Harvard Sq., a bottle-throwing
    incident has stopped ALL OBJECTS (rice, toast, cards, etc.) from
    being used in conjunction with the film  8^(
344.1257852::VENTURACats Rule! Dogs Drool!Mon Oct 25 1993 19:094
    FWIW, FOX is playing this tonight at 8:00. (at least in the New England
    area they are)
    
    Holly
344.135235::J_TOMAOMon Oct 25 1993 19:127
    Good question - I'd be very interested too.
    
    I saw this Saturday night at a party for the first time all the way
    through.....some of the party goers knew the "audience participation"
    dialogue but, I'd love to exprience the whole affect.
    
    Jt
344.145235::J_TOMAOMon Oct 25 1993 19:136
    RE: Holly
    
    Yeah but its not the same - I heard they will be editing it......bad
    enough putting it on the small screen but to edit it !?!?!?!?
    
    Jt
344.15the Fox showing: what a wasteREGENT::POWERSTue Oct 26 1993 12:5810
Worse than editing it, they made it a party  movie, having stuffed
a church-hall looking "movie theatre" with your (apparently) typical
midnight viewing crowd, and intercutting the real movie with the antics
of the assembled crowd (including parallel acting on stage, under the screen).

For somebody who was interested in seeing the MOVIE, I was totally turned off
by the "experience," and didn't watch but 20 minutes off and on through the 
whole thing.

- tom]
344.16DSSDEV::RUSTTue Oct 26 1993 13:139
    Re .15: Yeah, I found the "party" stuff distracting - if I'd wanted
    that I'd have gone to a live show. But I still enjoyed being able to
    see (most of) the whole movie; up 'til now all I'd seen were the
    time-warp and "sweet transvestite" segments. (I thought the ending fell
    pretty flat, but I enjoyed most of the movie. I'm mucho envious of the folks
    who got to see this on stage - it looked like that would have been the
    perfect venue for something like this, at least for me...)
    
    -b
344.1711843::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketTue Oct 26 1993 15:3413
    Count me among those who are disgusted with Fox!  I'd planned to tape
    it, forgot, tuned in at about 8:30 and couldn't *believe* the trashy
    presentation.  I'd never seen RHPS (figured it would be at the Exeter
    forever!) and would like to see the entire movie WITHOUT poorly-
    video'ed partygoer AMATEURS, half of whom not only couldn't lip synch
    but apparently didn't even know the words.  And what they did show of
    the movie was edited??  Bah humbug!
    
    Apparently on 10/30 at 11:00pm Fox (ch. 25 in Boston, anyway) is showing 
    it again.  Maybe if enough of us call and complain, they'll run the
    movie and *not* their no-talent wanna-be's....
    
    Leslie  
344.1819007::FIELDSStrange BrewTue Oct 26 1993 15:533
    I was under the impression that the movie run last nite was to show
    what to do and when....so I'd guess they will show the movie without
    the cut aways on saturday....but what do I know....:')
344.19DSSDEV::RUSTTue Oct 26 1993 16:034
    Re .18: Now there's a thought. I missed the opening credits and
    introduction; maybe it _was_ an "instructional video". ;-)
    
    -b
344.20Script and Audience actions16821::WISEEPobodys NerfectMon Nov 01 1993 13:364
    Somewhere Sometime I saw a copy of the script with all the added
    actions here. Any idea where I could find it now?
    
    	Efw
344.21No "Official" List29065::S_VORENothing Unreal ExistsTue Nov 02 1993 19:377
    There was at least one book published that had a bunch of the audience
    participation lines in it and also an album.  I don't know, though, if
    anyone can claim to have "all the added actions"; I've seen it in a
    couple of different cities and every audience has it's own set of
    comments/actions.  That's part of it's attraction, IMHO.
    
    
344.22Constantly evolving36905::BUCHMANUNIX refugee in a VMS worldWed Nov 03 1993 20:3417
    The audience response lines certainly are not fixed; they change by
    location and also over time. I saw the movie five times in college in
    1979, then again around 1986. In the meantime, Star Trek III had been
    released. When the moviego tto the part where Frankenfurter talks of
    how he has discovered the secret of live, he has a line which is
    something like "I have found it. That elusive ... SPARK!" In the pause,
    a group of people chanted "Star Trek 3 the Search for -", and then
    Frankenfurter supplied what sounded like "SPOCK!" This was obviously an
    innovation.
    
    By the way, my group used to enjoy sitting in the back row, so we could
    yell "Yea, back row!" when Riff-raff sang "In the back row" in the
    opening song. We learned better when a self-appointed emcee who was
    pacing up the aisle during the opening song yelled "Where's the best
    place to get a b___ job in the Charles Cinema?" just before the crucial
    line. Touche'.
    
344.23Avoid, avoid, avoid!SECOP2::CLARKMon Jan 16 1995 20:561
    Barforama. 
344.24BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Mon Jan 16 1995 21:138
    
    	This isn't a movie, it's an experience.
    
    	Don't tell me you rented it and couldn't understand what the
    	big deal was!!  8^)
    
    							GTI
    
344.25unrentable..REFDV1::MURPHYSymbolic stack dump follows...Tue Jan 17 1995 00:4319
    It's nothing watching it on video.  I hated it on Video.  
    
    It used to play at the Exeter St Th. when I was in college.
    
    We used to go there often on the weekends for the midnight shows
    with all the fixin's (rice, toilet paper, newspaper, squirtguns,
    toast - the works...). 'Course we all wore civilian clothes 
    we weren't *that* much into it :-) 
    
    It was great being there, because there were so many "regulars" all
    around that knew exactly what to yell and when to yell it
    	"HEY MAGENTA... Let me hear you do your impression of a chicken
    	laughing underwater" "Waiter - there's a transvestite in my soup!"
    
    I believe it's playing at the Harvars Sq Th. now.  Not quite sure
    though, Haven't seen it for years now that I'm old, have a family
    and can't stay up that late anymore...
    
    
344.26Is it playing????MROA::DUPUISThu Nov 02 1995 16:304
    Does any one know if this is playing in the Boston area this weekend?
    
    Thanks,
    Roberta
344.27GRIM::MESSENGERBob MessengerThu Nov 02 1995 17:174
It plays at Harvard Square (10 Church Street, Cambridge) Friday and Saturday
nights at midnight.

				-- Bob
344.28MPGS::FARRELLFri Nov 10 1995 16:114
    Phone number for this theater is (617) 864-4580 (recording) or 
    864-4581 (person), and cost is $7.25.
    
    Bernard
344.29"lets do the time warp again"HOTLNE::SHIELDSSun Dec 29 1996 03:406
344.30Dammit, Janet !COMICS::MILLSS&quot;Jump! Jump now!&quot; ...KoshMon Jan 06 1997 12:026