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Title:Movie Reviews and Discussion
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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1249
Total number of notes:16012

253.0. "Jaws" by 42110::CABEL () Wed Jul 14 1993 08:54

    Thought I start a topic on a movie which has been left out , evan 
    if the film is 17 years old , and that is JAWS .
    What do you think of the film , style and general impresion of this
    monster of a movie . 
    
    
    
    
    
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253.1freeky music !!!42371::DAVISMWed Jul 14 1993 11:2714
    Well it's certainly the best of the 4 (?) that have been made.
    
    The last one was the biggest load of B*ll*x that was ever made !!!
    
    The idea was there, to make a movie about one of the most feared
    inhabitants of this planet. It certainly made me jump a few times when  
    I watched it first (all those years ago !!).
    
    I think for it's time this was a very good movie, however now days it
    is going to be cristisized (sp?) because of it's age.
    
    Are you wanting to talk about movie 1 or all of them ?
    
    M. 
253.225415::MAIEWSKIWed Jul 14 1993 13:5115
  I really liked the 1st one. The acting was good, the story was good, the
direction and effects were good. It's had a major impact on our culture as
well. For ever more people will associate the "bomp BOMP bomp BOMP" music with
sharks. 

  One thing that really made this work was the "Steven King" effect. Like
King's books, Jaws was a horror movie that had a believable effect on the
audience because it was set in "Everytown U.S.A." Unlike Aliens or Friday the
13th in which the horror only exists in a different reality, the horror of Jaws
was something that could happen to you on your vacation.

  First Rate movie, ****
  George

P.S. Didn't see the others
253.342721::IVES_JOne i-node short of a file systemWed Jul 14 1993 16:169
    One particular 'spielberg-ism' about JAWS which I expect is in Jurassic
    Park is the idea that this is both a monster AND an impressive creature
    at the same time.
    
    I remember the end section when they are harpooning the shark with the
    air barrels, and with three of the things in it it still keeps going.
    The film seems to make the point that the shark is really quite an
    incredible creature, in spite of it's eating habits. You almost feel
    sorry for it (almost).
253.4fine acting, and direction.16913::MEUSE_DAWed Jul 14 1993 16:5010
    
     Although Jurassic Park was very entertaining and I really enjoyed it.
    Jaws had a better story and better acting, and direction.
    
     A very fine film. It would still do well if first introduced today.
    
     The other three were not very good films.
    
    Dave
    
253.5I still refuse to swim in the ocean!NASZKO::DISMUKEWANTED: New Personal NameWed Jul 14 1993 16:5615
    I saw JAWS back (ugh) 17 years ago and I was definately hit by that
    movie.  I loved it and I was scared of it at the same time.  I remember
    it had (and still has) an affect on my swimming habits.  It was big
    time believable!  I also saw JP, and while it had an affect on me, it
    wasn't as lasting as JAWS *is*!
    
    I had a groupie crush on Richard Dreyfuss after seeing Goodbye Girl
    (perfect for a swooning teenager) and I still like him today - he has
    aged well!!  
    
    I must admit I wasn't into quality acting as much as a great flick. 
    That is what caught my attention to the movie.
    
    -sandy
    
253.6Still juicy after all these yearsRNDHSE::WALLShow me, don't tell meWed Jul 14 1993 18:1423
    
    Jurassic Park owes a great deal to Jaws.
    
    I think anyone in the industry who thinks about what ought to happen
    when making a very popular book into a very popular movie ought to look
    at what was done with Jaws.  There are things about the movie industry
    that are not to be denied.  With very few exceptions, scripts are
    structured a certain way, movies want to come in under a certain
    length, and popular culture demands that things zip along at a pretty
    good pace.
    
    That's just what happens in Jaws.  The basic elements of the book's
    tale (little seaside town gets terrorized by monster of the deep)
    remain, and all the things that would have slowed it down were taken
    out and tossed, without any significant loss in characterization. 
    Leaving in things like the matters between Ellen Brody and Hooper would
    have muddied the waters, ahem.
    
    Probably my favorite transition of novel to screen after the Three
    Musketeers.  Still holds up well after all this time.  A good example
    of Spielberg before he made too much money.
    
    DFW
253.7John williams24728::WOODFri Jul 16 1993 14:2715
    
    
    There was a special on PBS with John Williams and the Boston Pops.
    Behind the orchestra they had a screen and there were showing clips
    of movies that John had written the score for. In one instance
    they showed the scene from jaws where they first encounter the shark
    and harpoon it with an attached barrel, with out the music. Next they
    show the same clip with the pops playing the movie score and the
    difference is incredible. The music adds a whole new dimension to the
    movie. I saw Richard Dreyfuss on Whoppi and he said Speilberg had to
    ask him 3 times before he did the movie. That movie made Richards
    career.
    
    
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253.8actually it was part of a series...25700::HABERJeff Haber..AVS IM&T Consultant..223-5535Fri Jul 16 1993 16:3410
Just a nit re: -.1 -- 

the show was not a special per se, but rather part of the "Evening at Pops"
series which has been on PBS for many, many years and has been underwritten by
Digital for something like the last eleven years. This particular show was a
special show, however, in the sense that they were doing a tribute to John
Williams since this is his last season with the Pops ;^(>. 

	/jeff
253.9J A W S still has the bite44038::CREIDThu Jul 29 1993 12:5317
    
    
       This is & always will be my number 1 film of all time,i think it 
       was a film before its time.
       When you think back to the way the movie was made,the fear was put
       into you for the 1st half by the music only,without even seeing the 
       shark. Also a lot of scenes were very well put together,like 
       Brodie's young son copying him across the table,Hooper & Quint
       arguing over,if hooper should go on the boat with them.As Quint
       thinks he's just a spoild rich kid.
       And even the shot of the Orca leaving the harbour,seen through
       Sharks Jaws. The list is endless.
       The only thing which killed this film is the same thing which 
       killed ever good orignal,Hollywood milking it dry with sequels
       Granted there have been good sequels,but they've been a different
       [excuse the pun] kettle of FISH.
    
253.10No use BruceYUPPY::SECURITYSecurity @LDOThu Feb 10 1994 10:4414
    
    
    I went to see 'Bruce' the shark at Universal Studios in LA but,
    unfortunately, he was broken...  tch...
    
    What amazes me, though, is that they still have the pool containing the
    blue dye and the sunny day painted back-drop that they tried to pass
    off as the Caribbean in 'Jaws IV:This Time Its Perfunctory' as an
    attraction.
    
    How DID that shark know where to find the Brody family?
    Hmmmmm......
    
    
253.113270::AHERNDennis the MenaceThu Feb 10 1994 12:466
    RE: .10  by YUPPY::SECURITY 
    
    >How DID that shark know where to find the Brody family?
    
    Cuz by Jaws IV they were beginning to smell?
    
253.12Funny how that happens!DECWET::HAYNESThu Feb 10 1994 14:253
    Cause the director told it where they were....
    
    :) Michael
253.13Jaws 2: The Return of the fish???36905::BUCHMANUNIX refugee in a VMS worldTue Jun 28 1994 16:3226
    My wife and I just watched Jaws on video (first time for me in 17
    years), and were struck once more by what a good movie it is, and how
    very effective at what it sets out to do. We did have two questions:
    
    1) In the sequence when Quint, Hooper, and Brody are getting drunk in
    the pilothouse, Quint shows Hooper a scar of a tattoo which was
    removed, and launches into a painful reminisce about how he was aboard
    the SS Indianapolis when it delivered the A-bomb to Japan in WW2. He
    goes on to describe the torpedoing of the ship, and how hundreds of his
    comrades were drowned or attached by sharks before they were rescued
    several days later. Was this sequence in the movie? I don't remember it
    at all.
    
    2) My wife tells me that, in a later movie (is Jaws 2 subtitled "the 
    Revenge"?), a shark that was merely injured in a previous movie comes
    back to stalk the beaches once more. She thinks it was the original
    shark from Jaws, but the ending shows that shark's head being
    demolished by the exploding air cylinder. The damage seems too great to
    allow that shark to come back, but those Hollywood ressurection men can
    work wonders (Spock, Hobson, Curly, etc). Can someone fill us in?
    
    By the way, the fisherman on whome Quent was based did catch a 42-foot
    great white shark in the early 1980's. I don't think that fish was
    feasting on swimmers, though.
    			Thanks,
    				Jim
253.14DSSDEV::RUSTTue Jun 28 1994 17:1814
    Re .13: 
    
    1) Yes, that sequence was in the movie. Based on fact, too.
    
    2) Not sure about this one; the "justifications" for the various
    sequels were all pretty lame, eventually seeming to fall back to a sort
    of "cosmic avenger shark" that had it in for the Brodies and would pick
    a new avatar when the previous one got destroyed. [I think there was
    some theory - proposed in the movie or off-line, I don't remember -
    that the Jaws II shark was an offspring of the Jaws I shark. I don't
    particularly believe it, but then I don't particularly care, either.
    ;-)]
    
    -b
253.15Jaws V : Starkist Bait10529::HAYNESWed Jun 29 1994 16:054
    And Jaws 2 was just Jaws II...  Jaws IV was actually called 
    "Jaws : The Revenge"
    
    Michael
253.16DELNI::DISMUKEWed Jun 29 1994 19:087
    Didn't one of the sequels have the offspring of the first great white??
    
    There was a TV movie about the victims of that military mission who
    were stranded in the ocean.  Pretty gruesome thought!!
    
    -sandy