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Title:Movie Reviews and Discussion
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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1249
Total number of notes:16012

117.0. "Under Seige" by 12368::michaud (Jeff Michaud, DECnet/OSI) Mon Apr 05 1993 18:55

	I can't believe it, Steven Segal was actually in a decent picture!

	Lots of action, not predictable (well just a little :-), and
	well written.  This film was nominated for both "Sound" and
	"Sound Editing" however I only have a mono VCR so I can't comment
	if it deserved those nominations or not.

	Also starring is Tommy Lee Jones.  I recognize the Capt. but
	can't place his name.  Also Chief O'Brian from the Star Trek
	shows has a minor role.

	"I'm the cook" :-)
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117.1what a star42371::DAVISMTue Apr 06 1993 14:463
    At nearly 40 years old, he can still throw a punch so I wouldn't
    say that to his face !!!
    
117.2The secret was to not give him many speaking lines12368::michaudJeff Michaud, DECnet/OSITue Apr 06 1993 15:268
> At nearly 40 years old, he can still throw a punch so I wouldn't
> say that to his face !!!

	If he can't take critisism he's in the wrong business ...
	... in any case it's no secret he can't act if he has
	to speak (and luckily he didn't have many lines to speak
	in this film).  Just watch the Sat. Night Live episode
	that he hosted ......
117.3Opppps42371::DAVISMTue Apr 06 1993 15:565
    Small problem with watching the Saturday night live episode.......
    
    
    I live in England, UK.
    
117.435186::BACHThey who know nothing, doubt nothing...Mon Apr 12 1993 16:1630
    Spoiler

    

    I thought this was the best Seigal movie, which isn't saying much...

    I thought the crack-SEAL-team lumbering on *one* slow chopper, without
    considering the ships AA potential was a little weak.  I don't think
    the SEALs are that stupid.

    Given the situation, I'm sure they mighta given those guys (the best of
    the best) some state of the art helos, and they wouldn't have put all
    their seal eggs in one basket, IMO.
    
    The Navyman who didn't know how to load a weapon (he was a laundry
    person for the ship) and had to be taught by Miss August 1989, who
    not only got a killer instinct within 1/2 hour, but also became
    proficient in aiming, loading, etc, that she instructed the laundry
    navy_man how to lock and load.

    The last problem I had was with how they wounded Killer_Segal in the
    movie.  This guys dodgin' laser sighted guns, throwin' knives into
    peoples throats from 80 feet, and basically acting like a super hero
    from a Ludlum novel, and all the sudden a matey throws a rusty 
    grappling hook, almost killing Stevie.  Seems that was the only thing
    in the movie *I* coulda ducked!  ;-)

    Anyway, not bad for a Segal movie.

    Chip
117.5ALL SYSTEMS GO , CAPTAIN.42110::CABELTue Apr 13 1993 09:3410
    I thought the film wasnt bad , a good action with some interesting
    shots of the ship.
    When the guy who plays Miles O'brian (Colmen ????? sp) was telling
    Tommy lee jones that all of the ship was blocked off for and aft , I
    was expecting him to say " Warp engines at full power and the phasers
    banks and shields for and aft are working correctly captain "
    Just my 2c worth .
    
                    ED.......
    
117.6DREDNOUGHT=BATTLESHIP ???????????42110::CABELTue Apr 13 1993 12:5113
    Just another quibble . At about the first 20min , there is a commentry
    on the ships T.V about the Missouri being de-commisened , the
    commentator says that the Missouri is "this is americas last
    dreadnought , to be used in war" or something ?
    The question is I thought that a BATTLE SHIP ,was a battle ship and a
    DISTROYER was a distroyer , and so on . am I wrong or what .
    
    
               DR. HECTOR .H. HELARIEZ esq. Phd,Mbe,Onc,Bo,Fux,Coxs.
    p.s alis Miss BBQ ROAST FERENGI/KLINGON
    P.P.S  Sorry I flipped out there for a second , that was my alter ego .
    
    
117.745106::ALFORDlying Shipwrecked and comatose...Tue Apr 13 1993 13:583
Battleships certainly used to be considerably bigger than Destroyers, but then 
again, you Americans have probably changed that definition as well :-)
117.8BUT IS IT THE SAME ?42110::CABELTue Apr 13 1993 14:326
    In what why have they changed the definitions ? But the question is 
    still the same , is there any differance to a battleship and a
    dreadnought , is it size,speed,armaments,thickness in plating , what?
    
          DR. HECTOR H. HELAIREZ esq. etc..
    
117.945106::ALFORDlying Shipwrecked and comatose...Tue Apr 13 1993 14:446
I'm not sure but wasn't the dreadnought (as a class of ship) pre-WWI, bigger 
than a battleship.

The destroyer is certainly smaller and lighter in every sense than both if my 
memory of the above is correct.
117.10DSSDEV::RUSTTue Apr 13 1993 15:175
    Those interested in pursuing the (fascinating but not especially
    movie-related) history and classification of warships might check out
    the BOOKIE::NAVIES conference... 
    
    -b
117.11Dreadnought=older battleship58633::MCRAMMarshall Cram DTN 631-7162Tue Apr 13 1993 15:2222
    
    HMS Dreadnought was a British Pre-WWI Battleship that totally changed
    the design of large warships.   All the major navies started building
    copies, and these larger battleships became commonly called
    'Dreadnoughts', especially around the WWI period.
    
    After a while the name faded from use, and battleship
    again became more common. It still crops up from time to time.  Missouri
    represented the end of the battleship line.
    
    They have nothing what so ever to do with destroyers, which are much
    smaller ships.
    
    I believe that most of Under Siege was shot in USS Alabama.  Missouri
    figured in the exterior shots (Alabama is museum ship).
    
    Marshall
    
    
    
    
    
117.12See Navy note 199.4858633::MCRAMMarshall Cram DTN 631-7162Tue Apr 13 1993 17:1112
                       <<< Note 117.10 by DSSDEV::RUST >>>

    <<Those interested in pursuing the (fascinating but not especially
    <<movie-related) history and classification of warships might check out
    <<the BOOKIE::NAVIES conference... 
    
    Not entirely unrelated to Movies, see Topic 199.  At 199.48 I have
    posted a lengthy list of Naval Movies, concentrating on historical
    accuracy and known filming details.  If anyone has any updates I'd like
    to have them.  My own film books are rather sparse...
    
    Marshall
117.13DSSDEV::RUSTTue Apr 13 1993 17:245
    Well, _nothing_ is _entirely_ unrelated to movies. (If anybody finds
    something, we'll just have to make a movie about it.) But what fun's a
    network if you can't cross-reference?
    
    -b
117.14oooops!16913::MEUSE_DATue Apr 13 1993 23:088
    
    Enjoyed this movie. 
    
    And who can forget the "Baywatch" girl that jumped out of the cake.
    
    Dave
    
    
117.153270::AHERNDennis the MenaceSat Apr 17 1993 00:279
    RE: .10  by DSSDEV::RUST 
    
    >Those interested in pursuing the (fascinating but not especially
    >movie-related) history and classification of warships might check out
    >the BOOKIE::NAVIES conference... 
    
    Based on the contributions thus far, ILLUSN::MONTY_PYTHON might be more
    appropriate.
    
117.16Nice attitude58633::MCRAMMarshall Cram DTN 631-7162Sun Apr 18 1993 21:5419
    >>         <<< Note 117.15 by 3270::AHERN "Dennis the Menace" >>>

    RE: .10  by DSSDEV::RUST 
    
    <>Those interested in pursuing the (fascinating but not especially
    <>movie-related) history and classification of warships might check out
    <>the BOOKIE::NAVIES conference... 
    
    <>Based on the contributions thus far, ILLUSN::MONTY_PYTHON might be more
    <>appropriate.
    
    Excuse me?  That crack is uncalled for and pretty offensive, every way
    I look at it.  Keep it to yourself in the future.
    
    Marshall
    
        

    
117.173270::AHERNDennis the MenaceMon Apr 19 1993 00:5914
    RE: .16  by 58633::MCRAM 
    
    >Excuse me?  That crack is uncalled for and pretty offensive, every way
    >I look at it.  Keep it to yourself in the future.
    
    Excuse me yourself, Marshall.  I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.
    
    I was directing my suggestion to DR. HECTOR .H. HELARIEZ esq.
    Phd,Mbe,Onc,Bo,Fux,Coxs AKA Miss BBQ ROAST FERENGI/KLINGON.
    
    			respectfully,
    			Dennis Moore, President
    			Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
    			AKA Percy Throat Warbler Mangrove
117.18real mambos!!!!!!!42110::CABELMon Apr 19 1993 09:4912
    My appologises to all the presidents men as well as Percy throat
    warbler mangrove. Flipped out there for a second second time .
     
    Now onto a normal reply . Yes that woman off of Baywatch looked mighty
    nice , shame we did'nt see more of her, you know what I mean !!!!!
    also those wobbley jello mambos looked extremily real to me .
    
    
    
        Dr. Hector .H. Helariez esq. etc,etc,etc...........
    
     
117.19NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquistion!58633::MCRAMMarshall Cram DTN 631-7162Tue Apr 20 1993 02:1819
    
    Excuse me yourself, Marshall.  I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.
    
    <<I was directing my suggestion to DR. HECTOR .H. HELARIEZ esq.
    <<Phd,Mbe,Onc,Bo,Fux,Coxs AKA Miss BBQ ROAST FERENGI/KLINGON.
    
    <<			respectfully,
    <<			Dennis Moore, President
    <<			Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
    <<			AKA Percy Throat Warbler Mangrove

    
    Ah, why didn't you say so.  Of course, I will have to shoot you.
    What a senseless waste of noting life.
    
    Dinsdale
    
    Senior V-P of the CBU for Trivia and Logos
    
117.20I don't recommend this one58378::P_CHAPLINSKYMon Jan 03 1994 19:0313
    This was the second movie I rented over the holidays; recommended
    by my brother-in-law & his wife.  I didn't like it.  It was
    predictable, the lines were awful, and as for Miss '89, well I 
    wished Steven would have left her locked in the locker.  The role
    this actress played, my husband & I agreed, was very degrading.  I 
    don't look forward to seing her again (even dressed).
    
    Thumbs down from me.
    
    Patricia
    
    P.S. how does one spell bimbette?
    
117.21kaboomYUPPY::SECURITYSecurity @LDOThu Jan 27 1994 10:359
    
    This is the only Segal (sp?) film I've been able to watch without
    constantly fighting urges to push the stop button through and out 
    the other side of my remote.
    
    There's something strangely asthetic about watching helicopters
    explode...  I dunno...
    
    
117.22UNTADI::SAXBYRover Diablo OwnerFri May 05 1995 13:589
    
    Re a VERY early note in this stream.
    
    He may be able to throw a punch, but I think most able bodied people
    could manage to amble out of the way of it.
    
    For an action hero, this guy is mighty slow...:^)
    
    Mark
117.29OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Mon May 08 1995 16:027
    Re: .24
    
    Unless you're British, I suggest you not delve into the murky depths of 
    slang with someone who (apparently) is.
    
    Baps is the way they say it, as in "Baps oot!"  (Not that I happen to
    encourage the use of such expressions....)