Conference bookie::movies

    Last time _I_ saw James Dean was in "Death Becomes Her" (rather than in
    the spaghetti), but that was just a cameo.
    
    I was afraid to watch all of "Rebel" - the curse, you know. All the
    principal actors met untimely ends, and I'm absolutely positive that
    *everybody who watches the movie is going to die*.
    
    Confession: The first time I saw "Rebel Without A Cause," I was a naive
    and somewhat goody-goody teenager, and I kept thinking that if those
    kids kept on being so noisy and reckless, somebody was going to get
    hurt; and why couldn't they just be a little more polite to their
    parents? I guess some of us just aren't born to be rebels. ;-)
    
    -b

    No matter how often you've seen "Rebel" on TV, don't miss a chance to
    see it in Cinemascope on a large screen.  Just beautiful.
    
    My other favorite James Dean movie is "Badlands", with Martin Sheen as
    Jamey and Sissy Spacek as Natalie Wood.
    
    Ray

Martin Sheen is James Dean reincarnated.

Honest.

I've thoroughly enjoyed watching Mr. Sheen everytime I've seen one of 
his films.  I even watch bad movies as long as he's in them. (Although
you don't have to do this often because he's in so few that are truly
awful.) I'd go out on a date with him, but he's a republican.

His children aren't exactly ugly either, except that they don't act as well,
they have no charm, they write, direct, and star in some of the most
nondescript and insultingly stupid movies to ever be forced on the viewing
public, and the worst of all, they marry people like Paula Abdul (although
I guess if you star in movies with all the culinary appeal of a bowl of
gruel, you don't want to marry someone with any sort of musical talent 
past a bowl of oatmeal, lest they overshadow you.)

Did Sal Mineo meet a bad death?

Lisa-not-up-on-the-rebel-trivia-but-I-know-Natalie-took-the-ultimate-bubble-
								     bath

    If Martin Sheen is James Dean reincarnated, who's Harvey Keitel? (The
    "You're tearing me APART!!!" line reminded me of "Bad Lieutenant" in
    some weird, perverse way...)
    
    Re Sal: Yup, he too met an untimely end; I *think* he was found stabbed
    to death in a parking lot under Suspicious Circumstances, but the
    precise details escape me. 
    
    Jim Backus did OK, though.
    
    -b

Oh I don't know about Jim Backus.  I mean, if you did word association,
you'd be hard pressed to find five people who'd say "Rebel Without a
Cause" before they'd say "Mr. Howell"  (Wasn't JB also a regular on
Match Game, and was he once married to Brett Sommers?)

I'd say that eternal linkage to "Gilligan's Island"  could possibly 
be worse than having your neck torn to bits by inertia.

Lisa-Mr.-Magoo-and-Tigger-too

    
    "Rebel Without A Cause" - great on the Big Screen, indeed. Saw it
    several times in my teen years...and had all the best photos of JD
    pasted to the inside of my locker.
    
    My former husband's strong resemblance to James Dean (cultivated in 
    his student years, I might add) was a major factor in my decision to
    marry him. Alas, things (and people) change. And he didn't drive a
    fast Porsche, regrettably.
    
    gloria

    
    Don't forget ol'Dennis Hopper. He's living the curse, everyday, man,
    eveyday.
    

    
    And if you like Dean/Sheen.... check out the original, Monty Clift.
    
    Rent; "A Place in the Sun" or "The Search".
    
    You can see where James Dean got his anguished young man act from.
    
    Of course Clift deserves his own topic.
    
    -James
    

    Of course, not bursting anyone's bubble, but James Dean, Sal Mineo, and
    Monty Clift were not at all interested in women ... so much for
    swooning!
    
    In the movie "Magic" (I think that was the name) with Anthony Hopkins
    and Ann Margret, Hopkins played a ventriloquist who goes back home to
    look up Ann, who is married to her high-school honey.  Hopkins says to
    her "does <husband's name> still look like James Dean?"
    
    The next scene showed this scowling, skinny, bald and bearded guy who
    was her husband ... it was a hoot!  If he had ever resembled Dean, he
    sure lost that coat fast!
    
    Leslie

>    Of course, not bursting anyone's bubble, but James Dean, Sal Mineo, and
>    Monty Clift were not at all interested in women ... so much for
>    swooning!
    
    Well, if it doesn't bother you that they're _dead_, I don't see how
    their sexual preferences are a problem...
    
    Quentin Tarantino claims that Harvey Keitel is our Sterling Hayden. 
    
    Ray

    
    Re: women...
    
    Dennis Hopper swears Dean was straight, says he knows it for certain.
    And we know that he (James Dean) was very much in love with 
    Pier(sp?)Angeli.
    
    Of course Monty Clift liked men (amoung other things). Although he and 
    Liz Taylor had an emotional *thang* going -- Liz even asked (begged) him 
    to marry her. Before his accident you'd be hard pressed to find a
    better looking man. 
    
    

    re .0, Lisa, just as long as you don't start thinking that James Dean
    is the father of your non-existent child, it's okay to worship his
    memory.  :-)
    
    I watched Come Back To the Five & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean over the
    weekend, and I think that's a wonderful movie.  Had seen it once before
    and still liked it a lot second time around.
    
    (Personally, there's three faces I'm sick of looking at - James Dean,
    Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley.  They're all dead and still keep
    showing up on every type of nic-nac and memorabilia imaginable, and
    I've had it with all 3 of them!!)
    
    Lorna
    

    I did watch "Rebel Without a Cause" the other night on TV, my first
    viewing of Dean's acting (other than "Giant").  He impressed me.  He
    had that naturalistic delivery, like Brando, which occasionally is just
    a mumble, but sounds a lot more realistic than the classic Hollywood
    40s pronunciations.  The movie, however, I found pretty mediocre.  Pretty
    dated, too, especially with all that 50s brass and sax in the score 
    trying desperately to jazz up the story.  "Movie Without a Plot" is a
    better title.
    
    -Rob

re .1

 >  I was afraid to watch all of "Rebel" - the curse, you know. All the
 >  principal actors met untimely ends, and I'm absolutely positive that
 >  *everybody who watches the movie is going to die*.

That's undoubtedly true, it's just a question of when. :^)


It's very rare that a CinemaScope production isn't seriously damaged by
panning and scanning, this is no exception.


Randy

Actually, the title of the topic never says that *I* had *HIS* love
child.........if I did, they wouldn't have dispatched Tom Brokaw
to cover the story (I probably would have gotten Maury Povich or 
someone icky like that).

I agree with Ray that it's useless to argue over the sexual orientation
of dead people when there's so much fun gossip about those who are alive,
kicking, and boinging this very minute!

Lisa-call-it-as-I-hear-it

I found out something really horrifying last night.  

Martin Sheen has done an infomercial.

I don't know for what, though.

Lisa-my-life-is-ruined

    I found out something worse last night. James Dean *wasn't* speeding
    when his car crashed. [It _must_ be true; the exceedingly scientific
    simulation of the crash said so. ;-)]
    
    (Actually, what they said was, *at the time of impact* his car couldn't
    have been going more than 60 mph. They didn't mention whether the
    obvious skid marks occurred after the collision or before, and, if
    before, how much he might have reduced his speed before the impact
    occurred. But this was a network show; if NOVA'd done it, they'd have
    covered more of the bases.)
    
    But it would be a drag, wouldn't it, if somebody who became a legend
    for being reckless should perish while obeying the speed limit?
    
    Irony 'r' us,
    -b

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>    I found out something worse last night. James Dean *wasn't* speeding
>    when his car crashed. [It _must_ be true; the exceedingly scientific
>    simulation of the crash said so. ;-)]

That show last night was the stupidest I've seen in a while. I think it's 
supposed to be a knock off of the new "How did they do that" on another 
network. (This one was called "What Happened", my question is "who cares".)
Oh yeah, this is a movie conference, so I guess I should get the topic back 
to James Dean.

I was struck by how small the Porsche 550 Spyder was.
I also was annoyed when they showed still photos of the other car, a ford,
but use a Lincoln for the renactment. :-(

Regards
Barry  

    
    Harvey Keitel is our Sterling Hayden ? I wonder what he means by that.
    Can you give a reference ?
    
    BTW - if you have'nt - read Wanderer, by Sterling Hayden. Brutally
    honest and insightful. Its in all the used bookstores !
    
    - acp