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Title:Movie Reviews and Discussion
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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
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Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1249
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14.0. "Damage" by CALLME::MR_TOPAZ () Mon Feb 01 1993 15:31

       `Damage' is a movie about obsession, and it is breathtaking.  The
       movie was made by Louis Malle, and it stars Jeremy Irons as an
       influential British politician and Juliette Binoche as his son's
       girlfriend.  The Irons and Binoche characters are attrated to each
       other immediately, and they carry on [sic] their liaison even as
       Binoche develops her relationship with Irons' son. 
       
       Instead of a predictable and tawdry story, `Damage' becomes a
       brilliant and insightful glimpse at obsessive attraction.  Toward
       the end of the movie, the woman playing Irons' wife gets to the
       nut of the story: she says that everyone has one person who means
       more than anything else in the world.  The interesting (and
       frequently disastrous) aspect of this is when A is attracted to B
       who is attracted to C.....
       
       It's a superb movie, well-acted; see it if you have the chance.
       
       --Mr Topaz
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14.1DECWET::SHUSTEREgad! An Adage!Fri Feb 12 1993 21:4114
    Well-acted, I'll give it that.  But I'm afraid I found this hokey,
    dumb, verrry slow, and repetitive.  I mean how many times do we need to
    see Jeremy Irons trying to have sex without taking off his clothes. 
    Frankly, with all the hype about this film's eroticism, I was
    disappointed.  I don't think directors know what eroticism is anymore.
    
    There's almost no plot, which means this is A Psychological Film. 
    Trouble is, there's no drama, except for a few minor revelations that
    sound like something out of Pop Psychology 101.  And when things
    actually get dramatic at the end, it's too late and too stupid, as if
    director (and perhaps author) were anxious, suddenly, to wrap things
    up.
    
    -Rob
14.2read the book38644::WEISSMANTue Feb 16 1993 17:2211
I saw this last night and was quite disappointed.  I read the book last year
and couldn't put it down.  The movie, while visually interesting, was extremely
dull.  I wondered if I felt that way because I had read the book but the
friend I went with who hadn't read the book felt the same way.

I didn't feel there was much chemistry between Jeremy Irons and the Juliette
Binoche, certainly not with the intensity described in the book.  I also felt the
sex scenes were not at all erotic.

I went expecting to like the film and was extremely disappointed.  

14.3rewritten: fainter praise58378::S_BURRIDGETue Mar 02 1993 22:0029
14.4Seeing is believing?32198::KRUEGERFri Mar 05 1993 14:294
    I can't imagine seeing this, since I read the book and found it
    riveting ... I don't know if I could stand watching it.
    
    Leslie
14.5the written word16316::DDESMAISONSWed Mar 17 1993 15:3111
 >>   I can't imagine seeing this, since I read the book and found it
 >>   riveting ... I don't know if I could stand watching it.

	Same here.  The beauty of this work is in the way the book
	is written.  Even if the movie is good, it can't be the same
	experience.  I work part-time at a video store, and even though
	I'd be able to see it for free, I just won't.

	Di

14.6I'd like to read it...16564::NEWELL_JOJodi Newell - Irvine CAWed Mar 17 1993 17:573
    Was Damage the title of the book?  Who's the author?
    
    Jodi-
14.7Josephine Hart?11SRUS::BROWNOn time or else...Wed Mar 17 1993 20:116
    
    Hmmm.  Not sure, but I think "Damage" was written by Josephine Hart.
    Anyone have a confirmation of that?  Also, I think Hart just had
    another book published.
    
    Ron
14.8Josephine HartTLE::TAYLORFri Mar 19 1993 19:064
    Yes, Josephine Hart is the author of "Damage."  Her latest book is
    "Sin."  I think "Damage", although a small book, was one of the
    most powerful I have ever read.  Therefore, I am reluctant to see the
    movie.
14.916564::NEWELL_JOJodi Newell - Irvine CAFri Mar 19 1993 19:183
    Thanks for the authress' name. The book sounds intriguing.
    
    Jodi-
14.1049438::BARTAKGod save DEC WienFri Mar 26 1993 06:319
    Finally saw this movie and was also disappointed, though I did not
    read the book before.
    I can fully agree to .1 and .2, the acting was good, but the chemistry
    between Irons and Binoche was not there at all. 
    BTW,  was it Miranda Richardson (Irons' wife Ingrid) who was 
    playing the role of Patty Hearst in the movie about Hearst's life.
    And isn't she the daughter of Vanessa Redgrave? She looked so old 
    in "Damage".                        
    Andrea
14.11Natasha Richardson29572::COSTELLO_JWed Mar 31 1993 22:326
    No,
    
    	That was Natasha Richardson who played in the Patty Hearst flick,
    as well as in "The Handmaid's Tale".
    
    Jean Costello
14.12Loved the book...16564::NEWELL_JOJodi Newell - Irvine CAThu Apr 01 1993 00:1211
    Now that I've read the book...how long before it
    makes it to video?  From the reviews, I don't
    want to pay full price to see it but I also don't
    want to have to wait too long.
    
    Great book, easy/fast reading style.  It's Josephine
    Hart's first novel. Her second is called Sin and
    will be in the bookstores soon.
    
    Jodi-
    
14.13re 11. thanks for clarification49438::BARTAKGod save DEC WienThu Apr 01 1993 08:241
    
14.14Miranda RichardsonSMAUG::LEHMKUHLH, V ii 216Thu Apr 01 1993 13:407
I don't know about OLD, but you hardly recognize her
from her days as QEI in "Blackadder II", do you?

She's related to that theatre crowd, but I can't remember
how.  Tony Richardson/Vanessa Redgrave's child and 
Natasha's sister?  Some relation of Ralph Richardson?
Does anyone know?
14.15VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter and DiamondsThu Apr 01 1993 15:556
    re .14, I recently read in a magazine or newspaper article (don't
    remember where), that she *isn't* related to Natasha Richardson.  But, 
    don't know what the truth is.
    
    Lorna
    
14.1612315::michaudJeff Michaud, DECnet/OSITue Jun 22 1993 15:2810
> ...how long before it makes it to video?

	It's on video now.  It was interesting, and I found it even
	more interesting that it made on it both Siskel's and Ebert's
	top 10 lists for 1992.  I'll give it a thumbs up but not that
	high up .....

	FWIW, the video, after the trailing credits, has about a 10
	minute interview with the director.  No additional footage
	is shown however that didn't appear to of made the final cut.
14.17It's on my top 25 for 1992VMSDEV::HALLYBFish have no concept of fireTue Jul 06 1993 17:0512
    I saw the video last night.  I agree with most of the comments earlier,
    but I'll venture to say the first sex scene was pretty dramatic.  After
    that all the broken and tossed furniture seemed irrelevant, distracting.
    And somehow I just can't buy the Paris street scene, even if Henry Miller 
    got away with the same maneuver.
    
    At the end of the movie we see Fleming (Jeremy Irons) in some village,
    living a rather quietly insane existence.  Are we supposed to know what
    country he's in?  Not that it matters much, but it seems important to
    me to know how far removed Fleming is from the First World.
    
      John