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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

250.0. "Where to report pet shops?" by MEMV01::STWP04 () Wed Sep 06 1989 16:07

    Does anyone have the names and numbers of the places to report lousy
    pet shop conditions to? Anyone have any experience with reporting
    pet shops and seeing any change???? /Linda Compton (work in Acton,
    live in Clinton, MA)
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250.1ANT::MPCMAILWed Sep 06 1989 16:206
    just a suggestion and a question: Pls define lousy.
    lousy/cruel treatment keep of the animals then call mspca.
               
    Other than that I really can't help you.
    
    Lise
250.2Definition of LousyMEMV01::STWP04Mon Sep 11 1989 14:1851
    LOUSY =
    
    o two African Greys in one budgie cage, on a low shelf, crammed
    into a corner
    
    o a Macaw cowering between a shelf of supplies and bird cages
    underneath his feet with canaries in them, watching passersby
    nervously as they move within a couple of inches of him
    
    o four Nanday conures in one small budgie cage, clinging to the
    back of the cage and shaking, cage is a horrow show, which could
    be expected with four of these size birds in this size cage
    
    oc canaries, four of them, in one small (cheap $16 variety)
    canary cage, with ONE half-perch (about 3 inches long), so only
    two of them can sit at one time on the perch, otherwise, they are
    on the bottom messing around in a slimy goo, filthy small water
    dish
        
    o one canary, unable to use one leg, hopping around as best he
    could in his own filth, feathers unbelievably greasy looking
    (when he hopped, the other leg came out a little from hiding -
    it appeared black and shriveled)
    
    o a peach-front conure, the only perch is the sharp edge of galvanized
    wire turned on its side (like the tomato cages used in gardens),
    sitting below several Cockatoos, an Amazon, and a Macaw, who are
    on smooth, large plastic pipe perches, where customers feed them
    peanuts in the shell or poke at them at will, depending on the
    customer's disposition) -- this is the last conure of about ten
    that were crowded around this torture ring a few weeks ago
    
    o two flight cages, among the most overcrowded I have seen in a
    long time, one with about a dozen plus cockatiels, the other with
    about three dozen budgies, two of who sit in little puff-balls and
    shudder, trying to hide underneath the one small food dish that
    appears to serve the entire crowd
                          
    o three young men, all in neat white shirts, shooting the breeze
    at the register...seems they might have time to make sure the animals
    are okay, but I guess they might get their hands dirty :'(
    
    Thanks for the reference to the MSPCA.  Someone else I know suggested
    the Dept. of Agriculture.  I was sad to see that this note only
    got one reply, and the next note about a screaming Amazon got eleven
    right away.  Maybe others will reply with their experiences in trying
    to talk with pet store operators, failing that, reporting them to
    the proper authorities, whoever they are (besides MSPCA and Dept.
    of Agric.).  Jean Hutchins had written note a long time ago in 
    which she mentioned going on "pet shop raids" -- I will give her
    a call. /Linda Compton
250.3M.S.P.C.A. PHONE , FINALLY !!GIAENG::PULSIFERMon Sep 11 1989 15:2921
    Hi good news !
    
    I just got the M.S.P.C.A phone number from a reputable Pet shop,
    Porthole Pets in Fitchburg.
    
    	1-800-628-5808
    
    I just called and reported both Child World of Fitchburg and DR
    Pets of Searstown. They said they would definitely investigate both
    reports. Don't hestitate to report these same shops if you have
    seen what you feel are violations, as more reports don't hurt.
    
    The guy answering was very surprised when I told him Childword was
    now selling pets.   
    
    Very pleasant person answering.
    
    Doug
    
              
             
250.4CASPRO::SPINNEYMon Sep 11 1989 17:429
    re.3
    when reporting pet shop abuse are you able to later learn from
    the MSPCA what there findings were and what action they will
    be taking against the store; or is reporting the situation
    the only thing we are able to do.  It would be good to know
    if the situation reported was being rectified.
    
    Fran
    
250.5results ?GIAENG::PULSIFERTue Sep 12 1989 12:526
    The MSPCA took my name, address and phone number, Therefore I belive
    they intend on contacting me with results.
                    
    I will call and see if anything happened in a couple of days.
    
    Doug
250.6What to say?CISM::LANDINGHAMMrs. KipTue Sep 12 1989 16:279
>    I was sad to see that this note only
>    got one reply, and the next note about a screaming Amazon got eleven
>    right away.  

Linda, the only response I can give you is that your note made me very, very
sad.  I don't go in pet shops very much, but if I found one in that condition,
then I, too would probably report them to the MSPCA.  

And I'd probably cry, too.  I don't understand cruelty, and it hurts to see it.
250.7I filed a complaint with MSPCAVAXUUM::COMPTONLinda DTN 232-2441 ACO/E47Tue Sep 12 1989 19:0712
    I have talked with the MSPCA in Boston and reported what I listed above
    under 250.2.  The man who spoke with me was very courteous.  He asked
    me to describe the conditions in the pet store.  I then asked him how
    much time he had.....he said as long as I needed.  He did, indeed,
    listen patiently and heard all the stuff in note 250.2.  He took my
    home address, home phone, and business phone.  He said someone would
    look into it and get back to me with their findings. I will report
    here whatever comes of this.  There phone number in Boston is
    617/522-7400 (general) or direct line to the Law Enforcement Department
    is -6008.  The general operator even said "let me give you the direct
    line number in case we get cut off" - unusual customer service, I
    think - we did not get cut off, by the way. /Linda Compton 
250.8reveal the source?SVCRUS::KROLLTue Sep 12 1989 20:543
    does the MSPCA reveal the source of the complaint to the offender.
    I would like to report some one but I am afraid they will harm my
    birds when I am not at home for they are very volient people.
250.9I'll ask them...VAXUUM::COMPTONLinda DTN 232-2441 ACO/E47Tue Sep 12 1989 21:303
    reply to .8
    
    I'll call tomorrow and ask the MSPCA about this.  /Linda 
250.10MSPCA DOES NOT GIVE OUT NAMES...MEMV02::STWP04Fri Sep 15 1989 14:3023
    I spoke with one of the law enforcement officers at MSPCA today.
    He emphatically assured me that they do not reveal the name, phone
    number, or address of the person filing the complaint (can be done
    over the phone - call 617/522-6008 in Boston).  He said the sometimes
    when a case goes to court, they need to request the permission of
    the person or persons who filed the complaint to use their name
    in the court action, and sometimes ask the person to testify or
    file an affidavit (a sworn statement).  In that case, they ALWAYS
    as permission first, and you can refuse, in which case they won't
    reveal the source of the complaint in any way by name, phone, or
    address.  He understands the concern expressed in reply 250.8, so
    if that person wants to hear the confirmation of this in person,
    call during the work day the number above -- they have an answering
    machine after hours, where you can leave a message of best time
    to call you back, if you can't call them during the day.  The law
    enforcement officer is aware I am putting this in our notes file
    and was glad the word would get out that people should feel free
    to bring to MSPCA's attention any cruelty or inhumane treatment
    of any animal to the Society's attention, which is funded and staffed
    to take these things all the way on behalf of the animals.  If you
    do not live in Massachusetts, the SPCA has chapters all over.  In
    the U.K. I think it is called the Royal Society for the Prevention
    of Cruelty to Animals, and perhaps other countries also have chapters.