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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

27.0. ""our cat eats canaries"" by CSC32::J_LAWSON (Who is John Galt?) Fri Oct 21 1988 21:40

Looking for advice ...

	We are building a house with a large aviary (about the size and 
shape of a racquetball court).  We'd like to have Macaws (sp?), but he
have a cat.

Let me tell you about our cat ...

	The US forest service plotted a reduction in the local wildlife
(robins, sparrows, rabbits, field mice, chipmunks) population.  It seems
that there is a notable lack of these creatures within a 2 mile radius
of our house [only kidding about USFS].  The term "viscious killer" is 
fitting for our cat.  Once we put a bell on her collar (which she did
not like) and we told her that if she could still catch things, we'd take
it off ... She killed three birds and two mice that very day ... We took
it off.

Are we just tempting fate?  or are Macaws big enough to be safe from our
huntress?  Yes, we'd be taking special steps to separate the aviary from 
the rest of the house (and therefore the cat), but no system is failsafe.

Does anyone out there have "agressive" cats with large birds?  What's been
your experience?

Mage
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27.1You can't be too carefull!CSC32::K_WORKMANNo Dukes!Tue Oct 25 1988 13:3132
    John.. Hi!
    
    As you know, I have several birds, some small and some big.  I also
    have 4 cats.  Our cats know that the birds are off limits.  We keep
    a squirt bottle handy that we use on the cats whenever they get
    excited because the birds are flying around in their cage.  This
    has worked very well.  Our cages are such that their is no way that
    the cats can get to the birds.  The cats, however, can jump on the
    side of the cage and scare the birds which isn't good.  
    
    The squirt bottle has been a great tool but I don't believe that
    I can ever be too careful.  When I am cleaning cages or moving birds
    around, all the cats are put outside incase a bird gets loose. 
    My real feeling is that you have to be 100% careful.  My Parrot
    doesn't seem to attract the cats attention at all whereas the little
    birds really attract them.  You might find with Macaws that your
    cat is more scared of the bird at first.  The one thing to consider
    is that if you get hand-fed babies like I have, they have no concept
    for the danger that a cat can present and tend to be somewhat
    inquisitive toward the cat which could lead to some serious problems.  
    
    In building your aviary, I would build some kind of perch or loft
    up high that the cats can't jump to or climb to to provide your
    birds with an escape incase the cat gets in.  All in all John I
    really think that the cats and birds can live together peacefully
    but you allways need to stay on your toes and secure your birds
    environment from preditors the best way possible.  
    
    I am looking forward to an invitation to see your new aviary when
    its complete!
    
    Karen-
27.2Open house, are we having an open house?SQUEKE::HUTCHINSFeathered Obsessions AviaryWed Oct 26 1988 15:0516
    Hi John...
    
    Saturday we added a Red Lored Amazon to our flock....If any of the
    cats or dogs decide to bother Fred, it's going to be no contest.
    Since macaws are so much larger than the amazon, your little miss
    kitty is going to learn in short order...however, one macaw bite
    could end all the problems.
    
    I have to second Karen's comments too!  We use the squirt bottle
    tool too.  We have pet birds thoroughout the house and many breeders
    in the aviary,  The cats keep out of the aviary and do not bother
    with the pets.  It takes a watchful eye 100% of the time though.
    
    Keep us posted!
    
    Jean
27.3All in good time ... Thanks for advice!CSC32::J_LAWSONWho is John Galt?Thu Nov 03 1988 12:137
27.4SQUEKE::HUTCHINSFeathered Obsessions AviaryThu Nov 03 1988 16:117
    
    
    
    	Bribes may get your everywhere!  ;')
    
    j
    
27.5Here's one methodCGOO01::PEDERSENThu Nov 17 1988 16:2518
    Holy Cow!  did I screw up!  Let me continue with my tale of two
    birds and two cats ( and one husband) in a small 800 sq. foot apartment.  
    
    We were all living in marital bliss when IT HAPPENED.  Yes, Rufas
    (one of the huntress) thought that it would be fun to play with
    Clyde (Blue and Gold).  Clyde sat there and watched the hunter in
    action, with mild amusement on his face.  Rufas assumed her attack
    position and Clyde walked over to her and stood right in front of
    her and sqwaked at the top of his lungs.
    
    After we peeled Rufas off the ceiling, she never tried it again with
    either bird.                                                    
    
    His method seemed very effective.
    
    P.S.  A squirt bottle does not work with my cats...they both love
    to play in water.
    
27.6I love it!FREKE::HUTCHINSFeathered Obsessions AviaryThu Nov 17 1988 19:477
    Re: .5
    
    I have not laughed this hard in days!  I love it!  I can see the
    cat haning from ceiling!
    
    J
    
27.7...seen it coming...MUNCSS::BURKETue Jan 31 1989 06:1711
    I love it too !!! 8-)
    As I read through the topic from .0, I could "see it coming". Even
    a Grey or a small Cockatoo can hold it own against a cat.
    A friend has two Macaws in an outside aviary. His cat goes there
    for some peace - I've seen it perched alongside one of the Macaws.
    He keeps two greys in the house, and the cat is left in the same
    unattended room, birds out. 
    Cats are intelligent too - one single experience sorts it out for
    evermore.
    Jim Burke
    PS 	Would YOU tangle with an unhappy Macaw ?
27.8CSC32::J_LAWSONWho is John Galt?Tue Feb 07 1989 01:153
>    PS 	Would YOU tangle with an unhappy Macaw ?

Not a chance ... Thanks ... Mage