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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

849.0. "Frequent Egg Laying" by PARVAX::BENNETT (Butterfly) Fri Mar 04 1994 18:40

    Hi,
    
    I am a frequent reader of this file and maybe have entered one or two
    notes before this.
    
    I have a Cockatiel, Suzy.  She turned 2 in November and in December she
    started to lay eggs.  Being a first time bird owner I was surprised by
    this and thought that it was interesting, until 4 weeks later she
    started to lay again and 3 weeks after that she started again and so
    on.
    
    I am giving her eggs shells and her cuddlebone to replace the calcium.  
    I am concerned about her health.
    
    I have spoken to the vet and they suggested that I put her in a
    different cage (with no toys) and in a different room, the object being
    to make her unhappy.  Well, I followed these istructions but she
    started to pick all of her feathers.  I would rather see her lay the
    eggs than pick herself until she is bleeding.
    
    I am going to the pet store tonight to pick up some fake eggs and hope
    that these work.  Does anyone else have any suggestions?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Bethany
         
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849.1Too small for omelettes unfortunately...UTROP1::BOSMAN_PMon Mar 07 1994 05:5316
    Bethany,
    
    Cockatiesl originate from inner Australia where they have evolved to
    match the demanding environment. If encountering favourable conditions
    they are "programmed" to become hyper-fertile. Conditions in captivety
    are quite ofter favourable and so the bird switches program. The
    obvious solution would be to make the situation less favourable but as
    you care for your bird you don't want to do this. Possible alternatives
    are: 
    1. Do you collect the eggs? if so, don't or replace them with dummies.
    2. Change conditions: move the cage, switch food.
    3. Get her a mate.
    
    Good luck.
    
    Peter
849.2AIMTEC::SIMPSON_LMon Mar 07 1994 22:0414
    Bethany,
    
    A friend of min has a cockatiel that does the same thing from time to
    time, laying an egg or two.  
    Her vet suggested that she cover the cage earlier at night, thereby
    making the day
    shorter for the bird and giving her less light.
    
    This seems to work in her case.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Laurie
    
849.3Calcium UPCUPMK::COMPTONSun Mar 13 1994 14:1027
    Hi,
    
    Whatever you do to help her stop laying, be sure you are giving her
    extra calcium to compensate for the drain on her system from laying
    the eggs.  Cuttlebone, mineral blocks, vegetables rich in calcium
    (broccoli, etc.), NeoCalglucon liquid calcium supplement (get at the
    drugstore), Nekton-MSA sprinkled on soft foods (wasted if put on dry
    seed and insoluable in water)--some examples.
    
    To add to your choices: Put a folded up paper towel down in one corner
    of the floor of the cage and set eggs on that.  Let her 'go broody'
    to finish the biological cycle (she may sit the eggs for awhile then
    give up--you'll see her perching at night instead of covering the eggs
    and know she's done for now).  If you pull and toss the eggs as she
    lays them, you just prolong the problem with most hens.  I think it
    was mentioned in this note earlier that the hen has a biological
    counter that tells her when she has a complete clutch.  Until that
    number is reached, she may continue to laying, further stressing her.
    I had this happen with a conure hen as well, when the first two eggs
    were trashed because there was commotion in the bird room that caused
    her to jump out of the nest very quickly.  She proceeded to lay her
    usual four, which meant she had actually laid six.
    
    Keep us posted!  It is always good to learn what works and what doesn't
    in each situation presented here.
    
    Linda
849.4Ok to lay eggs...BRAT::KRAGHThu Mar 24 1994 19:3813
    
    	Hi -
    
    	I have read that laying eggs doesn't wear the bird
    	out (as long as you have cuttle bone available and
    	egg shells is good) - the incubating and rearing
    	of the young is what wears the bird out.
    
    	Hope that helps....
    ..
    
    
    
849.5Thanks for the suggestions!PARVAX::BENNETTButterflyMon Mar 28 1994 20:438
    Thanks for all of your help.  I have tried all of the suggestions
    and none of them have stopped her.  Honestly, Suzy seems very content
    and she doesn't seem worn out.  So I am not going to worry about
    this and just enjoy collecting the eggs.
    
    Regards,
    Bethany
    
849.6poor henMTCLAY::DOYLETue Mar 29 1994 14:207
    hi....
         I had a parakeet that just kept laying and laying and laying....
    like 5 and 6 in a clutch one after another....it may not seem like it
    wears them out but how many eggs could you keep laying without getting
    exhausted and it taking a toll on your body....I finally brought mine
    to a vet to get a shot t stop it....it could eventually cause
    problems......don't let it go too long......mary
849.7Varying the light worked for meSTAR::VALESThu Mar 31 1994 20:4718
    I have a 2.5 year old Lutino cockatiel, named Coquette that
    starting laying eggs when she was around 1 year old. After 
    a couple clutches I grew concerned about the bird getting stressed
    out. What I did on recommendation of the persopn I got the bird
    from was to change her lighting habits. I put the light in the
    "bird" room on a timer and had it switch on during the night.
    I would also vary the timer settings weekly. Coquette has not 
    had a clutch for about 6 months. During this time she had started 
    nesting behavior but never layed an egg.

    Along with her cuttle bone I give her Cod Liver Oil.

    The only problem with switching the light on in the middle of
    the night is it usually wakes up Beak, my double yellow-headed
    amazon. What a racket in the middle of the night!

    Bill