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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

780.0. "Preventative Medications" by SALSA::DEFRANCO () Wed Mar 17 1993 21:40

    Has anyone used over the counter meds like Ornacyn and Ornaback (sp)
    and such?  I've heard they were just colored water and then again I
    seem to recall someone saying they used this on all their birds once a
    year as a general preventative for anything they may have picked up.  
    
    My birds spend a lot of time out on the patio (in their cages) but they
    are none the less exposed to some wild birds.  Doves are presently
    nesting in my potted hanging plants and the cactus wrens sometimes pick
    around the cages for any seeds that may have been tossed out.
    
    Would I be wise to administer some over the counter antibiotics as a
    preventative?
    
    I've thought of screening in the patio but it wouldn't be practical
    (you'd have to see the layout to understand!)
    
    Any thoughts and comments would be appreciated!
    
    Thanks,
    
    
    Jeanne
     
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780.1NO TO PREVENTATIVE MEDICATIONABACUS::BOURGAULTThu Mar 18 1993 15:4432
    I wouldn't be concerned about your birds catching anything from the
    wild birds.  They are not confined to a closed in area (lots of open
    space and air) where they are breathing in other bird dust from the
    skin and feces of a sickly bird.  Unless your birds are interacting
    directly with the wild birds it is pretty safe.
    
    As for Ornacyn,  I have used it occasionally if I find any of my birds a
    "under the weather".  I don't use any medication as a Preventitive -
    only to treat a sick bird.  Otherwise I use just Nekton Vitamins every
    other day in their water.  That's it.  I have very few problems.
    
    Birds rarely get sick, and most often it is due to stress (change in
    surroundings, diet, cage mates, death of a mate, etc.) or a vitamin
    deficiency.
    
    Most medications used to treat birds contain Tetracycline, which is
    in most Ornacyn and related products.  Tetracycline can also be
    purchased over the counter at many pet supply and grain stores.  It
    is used to treat chickens and horses.  I buy the Ornacycline since
    it is made for birds with accurate dosages.  You use that for 5
    days in the ill bird's water and it clears up most any superficial
    ailment (congestion, runny nose, or intestional disorder).  I find
    it works great for me and saves me $$$ from unnecessary vet bills.
    Keep it on hand at all times.
    
    Regards,
    Denise
    
    Hope this helps you out.
    
    Regards,
    Denise
780.2 probably not a good ideaCARTUN::MISTOVICHdepraved soulThu Mar 18 1993 16:046
    One problem with the bird antibiotics is that bacteria develop resistance 
    to most of them very quickly.  If you give them antibiotics all the
    time, they will lose any effectiveness.  Then if your bird does get
    sick, you will not have any effective treatment.
    
    Mary
780.3active culture/digestive preventativeUSHS05::VASAKSugar MagnoliaMon Mar 22 1993 13:2314
    
    I don't use any medicines (such as antibiotics) as preventatives.  I DO
    take one preventative measure, however.  At least once a week, all my
    birds get rice mixed with yoghurt containing live cultures.  I used to
    feed acidophilus capsules broken up and sprinkled over the food, but
    I've switched to yoghurt because it is also a good source of calcium
    and protein.  I feel this contributes to a healthier digestive system
    for my avian kids.
    
    But maybe this should go in the "holistic" topic!
    
    
    					/Rita
    
780.4CARTUN::MISTOVICHdepraved soulTue Mar 23 1993 15:172
    I wondered if birds could have yoghurt!  I've been giving mine benebac
    once a week, which has friendly bacteria....
780.5yummy *and* healthyUSHS05::VASAKSugar MagnoliaWed Mar 24 1993 10:3816
    
    When I was handfeeding baby finches (long story!) my vet told me to put
    a little bit of yoghurt into the formula to "seed" their guts with
    digestive bacterias. 
    
    All my guys love it, especially when I use it to flavour something 
    kind of dry, like rice or pasta.  And the sight of a huge crazed
    cockatoo diving into a pint of Dannon has to be seen to be believed :-)
    
    Go ahead and feed a little yoghurt (use a plain, low fat, non sugared kind
    and mix in your own fruits, like ripe bananas) and see if your birds
    like it.
    
    					/Rita
    
    
780.6CARTUN::MISTOVICHdepraved soulWed Mar 24 1993 13:194
    Hmmmm...sounds a lot more cost effective than benebac!
    
    thanks,
    Mary