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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

572.0. "does my baby bird have a cold?" by AIRG::TINA () Mon Jul 01 1991 10:45

    
    I am having some differences of opinion with the breeder I got CHEWY
    not ATILLIO from.
    
    1. when i picked him up thursday night, she said when she weighed him
       "he is underweight -- try feeding the handfeeding formula as many
       times as you can per day.  (he went from 324 grams to 254 grams 
       while they tried weaning him.)  when my husband and i got him,
       we cut up veggies, got out his seeds and pellets and his formula --
       he didn't want veggies, seeds or pellets -- just formula.
    
       well after about one feeding we figured that couldn't be good for
       weaning a baby although it might be alright for getting some weight
       on him.  i called the breeder, and she said it would be alright --
       alright.  i didn't believe her so what we did is cut up veggies, 
       got out his seeds and pellets and for an hour we just grabbed
       different foods and offered them to him until he took them.  we
       tried to figure out what papa and mama birds would do -- that
       is what we came up with.  after an hour of tempting and tasting
       we made up the formula and he ate more and more every day.
       we went to the breeder's yesterday and he had gained 50 grams 
       in just three days.
    
    2. big problem!  since it was so cold and damp yesterday, when we
       took him out we wrapped him in a towel and warmed up the van and
       held him close as we went outside.  he never shook -- nothing.
       he made the trip home so well -- that we figured going back the
       same way wouldn't be a problem -- it seems that he loves to travel.
       he falls asleep as he looks outside.  he didn't get runny poops or
       anything.  we went from my house to my moms -- then he slept the
       for a while and then we went to the breeders.  we picked out a
       new cage for him and weighed him.  the first cage we got as a 
       macaw cage -- chewy is a red lored amazon.  the breeder said the  
       cage would be fine for him. -- well the first night we brought him
       home as he went to sleep he fell of his perch and wam! right to the
       bottom.  i switched him with my cockatiels -- they loved the big
       cage and he liked the small.  but it was too small so we got another
       cage yesterday.  
    
       last night when we got home --- he was fine.  he ate like a pig!
       green beans, yellow beans, pellets, sunflower seeds, other seeds,
       lettuce -- then his forumula -- 12 teaspoons. he beat his old 
       record by 7 teaspoons!
    
       we put him to bed because he was pooped.  then my sister came over
       a couple of hours later and chewy's nose was wicked runny -- air
       bubbles of mucus.  i was half crazed!  i called the breeder and
       asked if i should call tufts.  she said no after she found out
       how much he ate.  she said he gets a runny nose after going from
       place to place usually - (it didn't happen when i brought him
       home...).  one good thing too his poops were still fine.  
    
       then this am.  he didn't want anything but his formula.  6
       teaspoons, and in his cage were three piles of runny poops.
       he didn't have that bad of a runny nose -- barely any at all.
       my inclination is to call tufts as soon as they open to get him
       in today instead of waiting for his scheduled visit tomorrow at
       2.  
    
       what do you think?  i leave today at 12.  send messages to me
       on my node if you can as i have a ton of stuff to do and will
       not be able to keep up the the file today -- i am reading notes
       30 and 71 on colds too.  thanks t
    
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572.1how is baby cold?SOURCE::ADDYAeronica ChiefTue Jul 02 1991 15:0010
    Hi,
    
    Just saw your note from yesterday...I do not have the answer for you 
    but I would not hesitate to see the vet.  I would not want to take
    the chance.
    
    Keep us posted on him...I was quite interested and good luck.
    
    Caralyn
    
572.2chewy's statusAIRG::TINAMon Jul 08 1991 16:4555
    
    just to let all of you concerned bird owners out there know that i
    took chewy right to the avian vet at tufts -- dr kaufman.
    
    all in all she thought he was very healthy.  of course while he
    was there he didn't have the sniffles at all, but as soon as i got
    him home he did.  i called her back right away.  she asked me to call
    her in the morning to give her a status (this was monday).
    she ran a culture on him and tried doing a blood test on him.
    tried?  well the poor tech. was holding chewy while the dr took
    blood from his foot with a needle.  all of a sudden "chomp!".  we just
    heard little sobs from the tech, "please...please get his beak off me"
    it was terrible!  well as the dr and i pried the little bugger off
    of the tech the blood coagulated -- it was no good.  i have to bring
    him back for that one.  serves him right though, her hand turned black
    immediately!
    
    anyway tuesday am, i called the vet.  he was fine.
    wednesday i woke up and went to check on chewy.  runny nose.  doesn't
    it figure.  i called tufts to talk to dr kaufman.  she was on vacation. 
    i was a panicked mess.  what to do, what to do?  i considered calling
    worcester bird clinic but i had just spent $102 at tufts.  not long
    after that dr kaufman called me at home from home... of course i wasn't
    home though...our horses had a fight and i had to run up to the barn
    to determine damages on the horse.  i missed her.  i called back
    tufts as soon as i got home.  they reinformed me that dr kaufman was
    on vacation.  well my horse was walking on three legs, my bird had
    a runny nose (only first thing in the morning, i wiped it and it went
    away -- just like the breeder told me it would) and i was depressed!
    anyhow somehow someway it was night time and time for bed.  i said
    forget everything and start fresh tomorrow (4th of july -- emergency
    visit -- yeh TRY to forget about it... anyway).
    
    thank you dr kaufman -- she called first thing in the morning to see
    how chewy was -- (i really like her!) . i told her that he had a 
    runny nose again pretty bad yesterday am and that his chest sounded
    raspy.  she said that the culture had something (undeterminable as of
    yet because it wasn't developed enough) and that she wanted to put
    him on medicine immediately.  she stopped at tufts on her way to
    the cape for her vacation to drop off a prescription -- which i shortly
    after picked up.
    
    he has been on it since thursday, and he is much better as a result.
    of course i am missing a finger or two but what the heck.
    
    pookie horse?  not too sure, dr merriam came out on saturday.
    he said that it should be healed 90 % by wednesday -- here it is
    monday and he can't hardly walk still.  wednesday my regular
    vet, dr. butera is coming to take xrays. $$$$ 
    
    if it is a bone chip -- well, it won't be good.
    
    the continuing saga of parenting animals
    (and they tell me kids are tough!  ha!)  
                                          
572.3Blue Cross Blue ShieldSOURCE::ADDYAeronica ChiefMon Jul 08 1991 17:1817
    Greetings,
    
    I needed a good chuckle (I'm sorry)..but I must say I did enjoy your
    note.  I think you need blue cross blue shield for your pets.  In the
    long run maybe it will be cheaper for you.
    
    Your vet sounds like a darling...I just found one in Littleton for my
    tiels and conure..been once to her for a checkup for the conure.
    I found my conure in a pet shop..and he had been abused (not by shop),
    I bought him and he is turning out to be such a big baby..loves my 
    husband to death...and I am the one who rescured him, cleans him. feeds
    him.  Oh Well..
    
    Keep us posted..and have a good Monday.
    
    Caralyn
    
572.4YOU THINK THAT IS BADAIRG::TINATue Jul 09 1991 11:3421
    
    glad to know that i added some cheer to the note file ---
    let me just tell you this to add a few more laughs to the story...
    (cause at a point you gotta laugh or your goin cry alot) while all
    this nasty stuff was going on with the kids...i went out to eat and got
    food poisoning or the honga konga kill u flu.  i haven't been able
    to eat in 4 days (at least i am loosing weight...i have managed 
    bread and crackers -- geeze, how'z a girl suppose to survive?
    (especially an italian bred girl?))
    
    don't you love it when everything happens at once -- then you are
    free and clear for a while until the next building falls in on you.
    
    by the way --
    why is it when one person cleans birdie's cage, feeds them, cleans
    them, picks up poo poo after then, teaches them, etc. etc. etc.
    they love the one who does nothing but says nice birdie?
    
    have a nice day?
    
    t
572.5Smile - it could get worse!CSOA1::DIRRMANTue Jul 09 1991 14:2717
    
    Tina- I know what you mean. I do all the taking care of the birds -
    	and my husband is their favorite - except for Winston my African
    	Grey. I raised three of the teils from baby - and got them tame
    	and lovey - and then my husband took them over - now they glare
    	at me. Ofcourse with all the cage care and feeding - guess who
    	gets to do the nail trimming and wing clipping. I really think
    	that is why they don't like me any more. Actually - I am thrilled
    	that my husband gets along so well with the birds - that way I can
    	get more. Sadistic maybe?? I just love them all.
    
    	I also know what you mean about things all happening at the same
    	time. It's a long story - but we just decided to chock off the
    	whole year to a BAD experience!!!
    
    
    			Keep the faith AND your sense of Humor!
572.6"Gotta love it"SOURCE::ADDYAeronica ChiefWed Jul 10 1991 14:1517
    Greetings,
    
    How is baby cold, your "flu" and whatever else going on in your home.
    I really think birds bond with one person..but that doesn't mean they
    will not be friends with anyone else.  My conure...loves my husband..
    told him "it" (sex unknown)   must be a misguided female.. In the Am
    when he comes in..he hears the truck and starts pacing and squaking
    like crazy...he walks over to Pedi and gets a kiss...pets him and all
    is well. But the tiels...will let me hold and pat them...only when they
    want to let him..will they do so.
    
    This is all new to me..the larger birds..but I am enjoying.
    
    Keep us posted on the trials of your day with birds...hee hee.
    
    caralyn
    
572.7chewy is fine butAIRG::TINAFri Jul 12 1991 12:0137
    
    the continuing saga....of life at the whitney's estate
    
    well chewy is considerably better, and thank goodness, we only have two
    more days to give him medicine.  it is such a chore, and i think it is
    part of the reason he hates his ol' mom.  i have to do all the 'bad'
    things, and daddy always rescues the little bugger.  
    
    we tried putting the medicine in his formula.  then he stopped eating
    his formula and just cried from hunger.  he is slowly now eating his
    formula again.
    
    i have one big question.  he hatched on april 2 so that makes him....
    (april to may (1), may to june (2), june to july (3), 3x4=12+1)
    13 weeks old.  we have always been cutting him carrots, spinach, green
    beans, making toast for him, and baking a potato, but when he went off
    his medicine food he went nuts eating all of this plus seeds.  is 13
    weeks a good age to be weaned?
    
    t
    
    ps pookie horse is fine -- he only tore a muscle and will be out of
    commission for 4 to 16 weeks -- i won't have to put him down or
    anything.
    
    me? well, after 6 days of clear fluids, i am finally eating again.
    thank goodness!  i thought i was gonna die!
    
    i have noticed that pookie bird is sneezing -- he always sneezes
    but it seems a little bit more lately -- i will have to watch him
    for discharges
    
    thank goodness, kitty and midget (bunnie) are knock on wood fine
    
    have a nice weekend all --
    t
    
572.8ICS::SNOWFri Jul 12 1991 12:527
    and I thought my zoo of 6 cats, two budgies, two teenage sons (one with
    a car) and a husband who just recently turned 40 was a challenge....my
    hat's off to you, Tina.  Keep up the good work.  Glad to "see" chewy
    and you and your horse are on the mend.
    
    Lin