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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

484.0. "Conure Bleeding Syndrome" by WR1FOR::MEYERS_NA () Mon Jan 21 1991 15:47

    Hi,
    
    Has anyone experienced Conure Bleeding Syndrome?  Last Friday I
    came up from work and my conure (about 5 yrs. old) had blood on
    her beek and on the cage and was making strange breathing noises.
    I was frightened and I thought she cut her tongue on the cage somehow.  
    We immediately went to the Vet who diagnosed "Sasha" as having "Conure 
    Bleeding Syndrome" - a deficiency only known to conures which they get 
    from eating a seed diet and not getting enough of calcium and Vitamin K.  
    
    My bird got injections that evening and the next morning and I got
    some antibiotics to put in her water.  The vet even recommended Sasha to 
    go to an emergency clinic on Friday evening in case she needed oxygen
    but the cost was anywhere from $75.00 to $300.00 so we just took her
    home that night and monitored her progress closely.  
    
    Needless to say, a seed diet will do this for conures so the vet
    recommends getting the bird on a no-seed diet - not easy when my
    bird is used to eating seeds!  Hopefully she won't bleed anymore
    but we got extra injections of Vitamin K and calcium to take home
    just in case...
    
    I got some pellets for her to eat now plus the Vet said that conures
    can eat anything that people do (within reason).  So I am trying to
    get her to eat corn (Vitamin A), Spinach and Parsley (Vitamin K) and
    some crackers.  
    
    Has anyone else experienced this or know more about this?  When
    I was in the Vet's office there was an article on "Conure Bleeding
    Syndrome" in the latest issue of Bird Talk magazine.
    
    Nancy
                    
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484.1Yes, we have one here too...CLOSET::COMPTONLinda DTN381-0687 ZKO1-2/C21Tue Jan 22 1991 16:0326
    Hi Nancy,
    
    We have a little dusky conure that came from a clutch of babies
    diagnosed with this...he was the only survivor.  Our vet said that
    the jury is still out on what actually causes BCS, but she said that
    Vitamin K for help in clotting has helped some birds.  We use Topper
    seed, which has acidophilus and vitamins and wheat germ oil and a 
    bunch of other things in it, so the bird is on a seed diet, but gets
    wet foods a lot with Nekton-MSA sprinkled on (this stuff is full of
    minerals and calcium, which for some inexplicable reason also helps
    *some* birds with BCS, but not all).  We also lace the wet foods with
    Prime avian vitamins (available from Hagen Bird Products--costs about
    the same as Nekton-S but a lot of our birds like Prime's color and
    'flavor' better and Prime has three gram-positive active bacteria
    and acidopholus in it to help the digestive process of the birds).
    The vet in our case said to be extra careful when cutting nails 
    (we use a dremel tool with a small sandpaper bit like the vets use,
    rather than clippers or scissors because the high-speed tool cauterizes
    as you use it).  So a high-vitamin, high protein diet, Vitalites for
    general good health, and the dremel tool are what have worked for us.
    I still hold my breath when we do his nails though......
    
    I hope your bird lives a long and healthy life.  Having found a vet
    you trust is key here, too, which is the sound of it from your note.
    
    Linda