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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

437.0. "STRANGE HABIT - OR ILL?" by CSOA1::DIRRMAN () Thu Oct 18 1990 13:06

    
    	The Conure that we have had for about 7 weeks now has started
    	doing something strange. He doesn't seem to want to "GO" in
    	his cage (that is aleviate himself). He will hold it all night
    	until we let him out in the morning - and then it will be
    	runny.(color is ok).If he is out for a long time - the droppings
    	return to normal. If he isn't let out in the AM - he will hold
    	it as long as he can. Then when let him out when we get home from
    	work  the same thing happens. He seems active and healthy
    	otherwise. We usually clean the cages every day.
    
    	We have a cockatiel who is "normal" and goes
    	whenever - where ever. The previous owner of the Conure very
    	seldom let Casper out (grrrrr) - and I reaaly don't know what
    	to think. Is it OK - or do we have a problem??
    
    		Appreciate any help.
    
    			Dora
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437.1potty training?GLASHR::MOEHLENPA_EDThu Oct 18 1990 21:237
    I can't vouch one way or another on illness, but you are real close
    to potty training.  If you can predict when and where, you can be
    ready to say a command when it happens, and association may not
    be far after.
    
    Ed
    
437.2Let's Hear it for Potty Trained Birds!CLOSET::COMPTONLinda DTN381-0687 ZKO1-2/C21Fri Oct 19 1990 16:2832
    Hi,
    
    One of our conures used to do the same thing and was not ill.  He did
    worry us at first though.  Same as yours: waited until we took him out
    at breakfast time; guaranteed heavy wet poop, usually down the back of
    my robe.  What we did was to talk to him while he was in his cage in
    the morning, wait until he pooped (this took ten minutes or so at
    first, so bring a cup of coffee or whatever and pull up a chair if
    you try this).  THEN we praised him outrageously and took him out
    immediately.  Got so when we approached the cage and said good 
    morning, he would hesitate, then do his stuff, and be rewarded with
    being let out right away.  (The wetness was because it was the nightly
    accumulation, not because it was diarrhea.)  Another conure we have
    was potty-trained by the previous owner, which is a real treat, so
    we try to keep reinforcing this behavior!  
    
    Since you say the droppings get normal after he is out, I would make a
    layman's guess he is not ill, but if you are concerned, sometimes a
    veterinarian will accept a sample of droppings in a baggie rather than
    requiring that they see the bird.  You have to drop off the sample
    as soon as possible so the vet can do a fecal analysis.  This
    costs $10-15 usually, instead of the stress and expense of a full
    office visit.  **Check first, though.**  The vet *may* require you bring 
    the bird in.  If so, put plain paper toweling or the equivalent (not 
    newspaper) in the carrier you use so their is a fresh sample for the
    vet that is not contaminated by anything. (Birds seem to provide
    samples about every 20 minutes or so...quicker if nervous or sick, or
    if a smaller bird than a conure.)
    
    Good luck!  And let us know how things turn out.
    
    Linda
437.3Is this a bird or a human - both!CSOA1::DIRRMANSat Oct 20 1990 11:3412
    
    
    	He is so very consistant - that I believe you are right. I will
    	continue to keep an eye on him tho. The two of our birds are
    	so very different in behavior - but that is what makes it great.
    	I like the suggestion of sitting with him - GREAT IDEA.	
    	It really does help "talking" about these problems.
    
    
    		Thanks!
    
    			Dora
437.4me tooWLDWST::GRIBBENZero to 60, in 1.7 seconds !!!Wed Mar 13 1991 05:5812
    
    I know this is very late reply.   My conure that i have had for well
    over 6 years now, has always done this.  It was explained to me that
    they just don't `go' at night, once the have been covered for the
    evening.   I thought it was strange, but he is always the same way.  It
    does not matter if we are camping on a fishing trip, at home, what ever
    once he is gone down for the night, that is it.  he does not do `it'
    till he is next taken out of his cage.   My m`acaw does the same thing.
    Only she holds the side of the cage when you uncover her, so you can
    imagine what that is like.