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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

367.0. "Dead canary. What happened?" by REORG::DARROW () Wed May 30 1990 19:20

    
    I seem to be having a streak of bad bird-luck these days.  
    
    I went on vacation last week and left my 1-year-old canary, Woody, with 
    a friend, Mike, who has had 'keets off and on for the past 10 years. Mike
    called me on Friday to inform me that Woody died! Woody was eating just
    fine and starting to sing in the new location, but was dead one morning
    when Mike went to uncover him.
    
    My question is, what went wrong?  Here are the circumstances:
    
    I've been trying to expand Woody's diet.  For seed, I was giving him
    canary seed, Petamine, and various canary treat seeds.  In the greens
    dept, he was getting a flower of raw broccoli each morning and 10
    thawed (previously frozen) peas each evening.  He loved the broccoli
    and peas.  Mike said Woody hadn't been eating much of the regular 
    canary seed, but ate all the treats and greens each day. I'd also been
    introducing Woody to cod-liver oil.  I put 3 drops in about 1/4 cup
    water, then dipped his broccoli in it.  I'd done this about 2 times in
    the week before I left, but hadn't given it to Mike to do.
    
    As mentioned in previous notes, I'd purchased two shaft-tailed
    finches a few weeks ago that I kept for only 4 days.  They were
    in a separate cage but in the same room as Woody.  Could he have
    caught something from them?
    
    Woody was in a new cage.  I'd purchased it with the "finch return"
    credit, cleaned it with the 32 - 1 water/bleach solution, then rinsed
    completely.  Could there have been something wrong with the cage?
    Could he have just been through too many changes in too short a time
    (new cage, then new locale)?
    
    I've been using corn-cob litter in the bottom of the cage, cleaning
    it out every 4 days or so.  Could that have caused a problem?
    
    Mike and I are perplexed about all this because Woody was acting
    just fine.  Happy, singing, eating.  What went wrong??
    
    I'd love to get another canary, but am concerned about what I might
    have been doing wrong.
    
    
    -- Jennifer
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367.1Wash them veggies well!MED::D_SMITHThu May 31 1990 12:275
    Were the greens being washed? Pesticides on the veggies could cause
    it! 
    
    Dave'
    
367.2Yes, they were washed...REORG::DARROWThu May 31 1990 14:1014
    
    Yes, Mike assures me he washed the broccoli thoroughly.
    It was the same bunch Woody had been eating the previous
    7 days. (I bought it just before I left for vacation.)
    
    If it were pesticides, wouldn't it have killed him
    sooner, or would the effect have been cumulative?
    Wouldn't he have appeared to be sick, rather than perky and
    singing?  That's the part that confuses me!
    
    The frozen peas were washed also.  We thaw them by running warm
    water over them.
    
    Jennifer
367.3Some possibilities...CLOSET::COMPTONLinda DTN 232-2441 ACO/E47Thu May 31 1990 22:1326
    In the FWIW category, our canary hen died suddenly, apparently of old
    age.  She didn't show any major signs of distress before she died; it
    was just her time, I guess.  This was a few weeks ago.  Her mate is
    doing fine and shows no signs of illness, so I think it truly was old
    age, but it was a teary morning, none the less.  Your description of
    the situation, with the changes in diet recently, and the move to
    the 'bird-sitter' could add stress, certainly.  Did the canary undergo
    any radical changes in temperature? Up or down?  Did your friend notice
    anything different about the number or consistency of the droppings? If
    the oil was a problem, I suspect something would have showed up
    (increase or decrease in droppings, diarrhea). Changes in duration of
    light and dark hours the bird experienced, plus any changes in the 
    habits about covering the cage at night, are other possibilities. Another
    thought: if the bird was in direct sunlight too much, heat stroke 
    might be the culprit. Also, if the bird was kept in the kitchen, near
    a gas stove where there might be escaping fumes, or an overheated
    Teflon pan, or moved into a smoking household from a non-smoking one,
    there might have been too many changes all at once for the bird.  
    
    I'm putting all this in because you said you wanted to think about what 
    you had been doing before getting another bird......not to belabor a 
    sad event for you.  I hope you are of a mind to try again.  It truly
    might have been nothing either you or your friend did or did not do. 
    Sometimes it is just that time.
    
    Linda 
367.4More info, plus new babiesREORG::DARROWFri Jun 08 1990 14:1833
    
    Linda-
    
    Thanks for your suggestions. Here are a few answers to your questions:
    
    RE: droppings.  It's hard to tell because I was using the corn cob
    litter.
    
    RE: covering.  Mike used the same cover I do and covered him the
    same way.
    
    RE: kitchen.  Yes, Woody was in the kitchen, but it's about 25' x 14'.
    He was at the far end from the stove, which is electric.  It's almost
    like being in another room.  He's been there before, also.
    
    RE: drafts.  Mike says it was a cool week and he didn't have the 
    windows open.  It's possible it got cold at night, though.
    
    I tend to think there were just too many stresses in too short a time.
    Woody was only 1 year old.
    
    On a cheerier note, I got two new baby canaries last weekend.   They're
    8 weeks old. I'm almost positive one is a male because he's already
    trying to sing.  The other one may be male also; he's quite a bully.
    
    I have them in the same cage for now because I'm trying to get them
    used to my hands. (1 cage saves time in this!)   I'll probably move
    them into separate cages in another week or so. They're not too afraid
    of me; they'll eat with my hand in the cage.  I'd like to finger tame
    them, which I've heard is hard to do with canaries.  Has anyone had
    success with that?