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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

323.0. "New Cockatiel owner:Need advice!" by SALSA::DEFRANCO () Mon Feb 26 1990 14:50

    Hi,
    
    I had a very exciting weekend!  I got my new cockatiel, Rosie, on
    saturday afternoon.  She is a handfed baby and is about 4 months old. 
    She is very tame and very sweet!  I think I'm doing everything right
    for her but I do have a few questions that maybe you could help me
    with.
    
    She only likes to eat seeds, no fruit, veggies or eggs.  Are seeds
    alone a proper diet or should I really make an effort to force her into
    eating other types of food?  
    
    Also, we have a good size cage for her and I let her out for about 20
    minutes in the morning and about 1/2 hour at night. On weekends she
    will be out more, but during the week I'm afraid this will be the
    normal routine.  I would leave her out longer at night, but she is so
    grouchy when the sun goes down.  All she wants is to be left alone to
    preen and  sleep.  Is this normal?
    
    And for my last question.  If I decide to get another bird (didn't take
    long to get hooked, did it?) will Rosie accept it in her cage?  I kinda
    feel that every creature should have one of its own kind to communicate
    with so "I" would like to see Rosie have a friend.  Do you think she
    would appreciate this?  Also, will she get along with another female? 
    I don't want to get a male (don't want babies) and I don't want Rosie
    nor the new bird to loose their affection for us humans.  So, I guess
    what I'm really asking is can two handfed birds be friends to each
    other and friends to me at the same time?  
    
    Thanks for the advice.  I really appreciate it.
    
    
    Jeanne (and Rosie)  
    
    P.S.  My cats have been wonderful.  They have all come up to look but
    haven't put a paw near the cage.  After a few minutes, they get bored
    and go off to their normal routine.  They have each cautiously sniffed
    the cage only to have Rosie charge at them.  Rosie is also very good
    with them.  She is confident and will sit there preening while the cats
    are watching her.  
    
       
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323.1Check out note 172.* for lots of infoBOHR::CASSONEDom Cassone MRO4-3/C17 DTN 297-3038Mon Feb 26 1990 15:5715
Note 172.* is also about new cockatiel owners, check it out.

To answer your main questions quickly (more in-depth answers in 172.*).  Your
bird NEEDS to eat things other than seeds.  Seeds are NOT a complete diet!  You
may have to be VERY persistant but it is necessary.

As far as another bird, this is a big gamble.  First, if the bird has only
imprinted on humans, it may not accept another bird.  Second, if it accepts 
another bird, it may reject you in favor of a bird buddy.  Third, you may all
live happily ever after.  I believe that either 1 or 2 happen most often.

Hope this helps some.....See my reply 172.12 for more detailed answers to
some of your questions

Dom
323.2Is cat food O.K.?SALSA::DEFRANCOMon Feb 26 1990 18:3212
    Thank you for the reference .1.  I did take her seed away before coming
    into work this morning and replaced it with egg, a little cheese and
    some cooked green beans.
    
    When I went home for lunch my husband did say that she was nibbling on
    it but was definitely looking for seed.  I crushed up some dry cat food
    and gave that to her and she loved it.  It has plenty of protien in it
    and Rosie likes it better than eggs.  Is this OK to feed her?
    
    Jeanne
    
    
323.3some thoughtsMEIS::TILLSONSugar MagnoliaWed Feb 28 1990 13:2529
    
    Jeanne,
    
    Dry catfood should be fine as a suppliment to seeds, but she should be
    getting fruits and veggies as well.  If she really loves the dry cat
    food, you may be able to trick her into sampling other foods by
    sprinkling crumbled dry cat food on them.  (I get my Amazon to eat new
    stuff by dusting it with Cheetos, his favorite junk food :-)  With my
    birds, they often will enjoy new foods after they have identified them
    as "tasty", it is getting them to take the first bite that's tricky.
    
    As far as a companion for your bird, another cockatiel would be ok if
    you introduced them carefully, and if male, you might get them to
    breed.  However, you run the risk of them preferring each other to
    people.  
    
    If you're not interested in breeding, a better choice might be a mixed
    aviary.  Cockatiels do well with birds that are *both* smaller and more
    aggressive, such as budgies and finches, or with gentle birds that are
    ground-dwelling such as button quail.  Bird Talk did an article last
    year on a mixed aviary built from a standard tall computer cabinet
    which contained a cockatiel, a budgie, a pair of finches (Society, I
    think...) and a pair of button quail.  The important thing is to
    provide enough space so that everyone has their own "turf", and to
    introduce all the birds you plan on keeping together all at once so
    that an appropriate "pecking order" can be established upfront.
    
    Rita
    
323.4CSC32::K_WORKMANTTDRIVER/MODEM Tech Leader 4990Wed Feb 28 1990 19:5612
    A suggestion:
    
    Don't feed your bird CAT FOOD.  Cat food is a very high protein
    food (30%+ I believe).  Birds don't need this high a protein
    and further more it isn't good for them.  Most of your seed or
    pelleted diets have a much lower protein ratio and for good
    reasons.  
    
    Please feed your bird foods formulated to meet their needs, not
    your cats or your dogs.  There are so many wonderful pelleted
    and vitamin treated seeds that will guarantee your bird a long
    and healthy life.
323.5use pelletsNEURON::ROBSONNews item from the Banzia InstituteThu Mar 01 1990 14:329
    I agree completely with Karen (.-1).  Cat food is not in any way
    designed to meet the needs of birds.  With the many different types of
    pellets on the market now there should be no problem finding some
    (and at a reasonable price).  Mine get mainly pellets with some seed
    thrown in just for a treat.  (plus the usual fruits/veggies...)
    
    How is Clare (and the rest) doing Karen?  My 3 pairs of conures live in
    thier nest boxes but no little addition yet...I hate having to be
    patient...
323.6I've got the right food this time!SALSA::DEFRANCOMon Mar 05 1990 16:4124
    Over the weekend, I bought some parrot mix and Scientific pellets. 
    Rosie seems to like the pellets so I hope to have her weaned on that in
    the very near future.  Thank you all for setting me in the right
    direction on this matter.
    
    Rosie has adjusted quite well to her new home.  In fact, she is already
    demanding more attention from us than I thought she would.  She peeps
    constantly to be let out of her cage and when she's out she wants to be
    on my shoulder.  She now lets me scratch her and she gives kisses. 
    She's a wonderful bird and so very friendly.
    
    I'm seriously considering a companion for her though.  She is still
    young (about 3 to 4 months old) so she should adjust.  Where she loves
    attention so much, I'm afraid that she must be very lonely during the
    day when I'm not home.  I also have this thing about animals having at
    least one member of their own kind to communicate with.  I hope I don't
    live to regret this and I hope she doesn't lose her wonderful pet
    qualities.
    
    Again, thank you all for your help!
    
    Jeanne (and Rosie)
    
    
323.7CSG001::GAUGHANThu Apr 05 1990 18:4119
    Well, I am a new owner so dont take my word on anything.  I had
    a friend who bought another bird for his.  The first bird was very
    friendly until the new bird came along.  The two birds will have
    nothing to do with him now.  This is just an example, and I could
    be wrong, I just dont know.
    
    Now MY problem.  When I leave in the am my bird just sits there
    until I get home, and then I had better let him out immediately.
    He will get out and fly around for awhile, then on to the shoulder
    until he gets tired.  No trouble putting into the cage, but I cant
    leave the room without him screaming until I come back in.
    
    Also where can I find a play pen for a cockateil to put on top of
    his cage.
    
    Any help will be appreciated.
    
    charlie