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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

295.0. "My Little Naked Finch" by NBC::BURKE () Mon Dec 18 1989 16:04

Hi, I am new to this notesfile and new to bird owning.
I'm wondering if you can give me some help with my birds. 
I am a novice finch owner. I have two, 1 year old Green Winged 
Mannikers. I was told when I got them last Christmas that they were 
a male and female.   

They have been very healthy and happy for the past year, now all of 
a sudden my female seems to be losing feathers on her face (close 
to the eye area) and the back of her neck.   At first I thought she had 
an eye problem, but her eyes are clear, not discolored or runny.  (Thank God.)  
She grooms herself quite alot lately, but otherwise seems peppy and normal. 
She's eating OK.  Sometimes she almost acts like she's itchy, because 
her grooming seems to be a bit erratic.  The other bird looks fine.  I 
was ruling out parasites, thinking if one got them, the other would also.  
Am I wrong about that.. ?   

I have also read that she should be nearing her sexual maturity..? 
Is she just molting..?  I've read about molting in books and in the 
notesfile, but I guess its one thing to read about a naked bird, and 
another to see one!  Last night she took a bath and when she was wet, 
I noticed how many feathers were gone off the back of her neck, and got 
a bit nervous.  

I did notice that the male has been attempting to mate with her,
they tousle a bit on the floor of the cage, and I noticed
that once he came away with one of her feathers in his beak.  I
haven't found alot of feathers on the bottom of the case which is
also concerning me.   Should I try to separate them because he is 
slowly making her naked..? 

I appreciate any help you can give me.   Thank you very much,
from all three of us. 

	Pati (& Elvis and Doris)


    
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295.1ALCTRZ::BROOKS_DOMon Dec 18 1989 21:477
    re:1
    
    I found with my keets that one had parasites sp? but the other one
    got away scott free, do Please do not rule out parasites. They can
    be VERY harmful.
    
    Donna
295.2Feather ChewingNYFS04::CHERYLCheryl Lee CorrellTue Dec 19 1989 17:1212
    Someone had told me that if a bird doesn't get enough calcium, they
    will chew on the base of their feathers....Are they getting enough
    calcium?   I always keep mineral blocks in the cage, so I don't know
    how true it is.   Maybe one of the bird "experts" could comment.
    
    I did have the problem a long time ago.  It seemed that the male was 
    too immature and kept trying to mate with the female...He just kept
    attacking her over and over again.  
    
    Good luck,
    cheryl
    
295.3My thoughts...VMSSG::VMSINQWed Dec 27 1989 16:3913
    It sounds like a a one sided love affair.  However, don't rule out the
    parasites.  Judging from behavior and the areas that the feathers are
    missing from, he is picking her.  It's classic.  Especiallly from the
    back of the head.  My suggestion is to separate them for a month or so. 
    Beef up her calcium intake and take away any breeding inducing foods
    away from him, ie. wheat germ, vitamin E, Nekton E... just slow them
    down a bit.  Once you reintroduce her to him again... it should be
    alright.
    
    Jean Hutchins
    
    (Feathered Obsessions Aviary)
    
295.4Black Masked Love Bird with Similar ProblemOLDTMR::VINCENTLinda Chasey Vincent 223-5381Fri Dec 29 1989 14:5921
    I have three Black Masked Love Birds - sexes unknown.  One of them 
    appears to be having a similar problem with the feathers around his
    ears and neck.  He/she is the smallest and least well groomed of the
    three, but definitely friendliest (and my favorite).  
    
    For a time it seemed as if the other two were a definite pair, but now 
    I'm not so sure.  For a few weeks the little guy was tearing up the paper
    from the bottom of the cage and seemed to be trying to build a nest in 
    the food dish.  Both the "nesting" and feather loss seems to have stopped 
    a week or so ago.  The feather loss had also happened last spring but 
    again, only on this particular bird.
    
    Is having three birds instead of pairs a problem?  And if so, is there
    a way I can tell what I've got in order to get the proper sex mate?
    Should I leave all three of them in the same cage anyway?  They seem to
    be getting along OK now.  Any idea on why this particular bird is
    loosing feathers and not the other two?  How do I check for parasites?
    
    Thanks.
    Linda
    
295.5WHO'S PICKING ON WHO!FDCV07::BOURGAULTThu Jan 25 1990 16:2323
    I also have a problem with one of my peach faced love birds.  I had 2
    (unknown sex) in a cage together for a couple of years and they got
    along very well together - both were in excellent feather.  Then I
    was given a lone peach faced love bird from a friend who no longer
    wanted to care for it.  However, instead of placing it in the cage with
    the other two, I purchased a mate for it.  I guessed that the lone
    bird was a male by its pelvic bone structure and its actions (It
    constantly tried to mate with its mirror.)  So I went to a breeder and
    purchased a female peach faced for him.  They seem to be getting along
    fine, however,  I have both cages hanging side by side, and since I
    got them all together in one room, one of my love birds from the
    unsexed pair now has missing feathers around its neck - especially
    around the back by the beginning of his wings. 
    
    The feathers have been like this for the past 10 months or so.  I tried
    to rectify this problem by moving one set of birds into another room
    for a couple of months but it didn't help for they could still hear
    each other.  So..I still have the problem.  My guess is that they are
    all males except for the one female that I got from the breeder and
    one of the males is picking the other one from frustration or
    jealousy.  My next step is to find 2 females for the frustrated duo.
    
    Denise