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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

258.0. "Sunflower dilemna" by RAINBO::WIMMER () Thu Sep 14 1989 14:20

    Now I'm really confused.........
    
    There has been lots of discussion here about feeding sunflower
    seeds.  I know a lot of people feed Topper's to avoid sunflower.
    I was just gettting reading to order Topper's since I haven't been
    able to find it locally.....then.......the last issue of Bird
    Talk has an article on sunflower seeds.  The say in the article,
    that all the stuff about sunflower being bad is myth, and in
    fact it is great stuff and birds should have it.
    
    Did anyone else read the article?  What do you think???
    
    Diane
    
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258.1too much fat if only dietSVCRUS::KROLLThu Sep 14 1989 17:3410
    an exclusive diet of sunflowers will make the birds vitimin defecient
    as well as fat.  mine get a SMALL hand full each day but I also
    let them fly around the house.  some times I wish they were fat.
    
    a lot of people will let the bird trick you into eating only the
    sunflowers.  I let them have a little so that they just get the
    edge of hunger off but not enough to fill up.  this makes them start
    exploring other foods without starving in the process.
    
    in fact my large parrots will eat them last now instead of first. 
258.2OK in moderationWITNES::HANNULAIs there Aerobics for Cats?Thu Sep 14 1989 17:5313
    I thinks it's one of those things that's acceptable in moderation.
    You don't want to feed an exclusive diet of sunflower seeds, but
    I really don't see a reason to ban them either.  If you buy a seed
    mix that contains sunflower seeds, I don't see a problem with that.
    
    Due to the sunflower seeds high fat content, I would try to eliminate
    them from my birds diet if my bird was slightly on the overweight
    side.
    
    Just think what our diets would be like if we as people eliminated
    everything that was fattening or had little nutritional value.
    
    	-Nancy
258.3Shelled vs. UnshelledVAXUUM::COMPTONLinda DTN 232-2441 ACO/E47Thu Sep 14 1989 21:2319
    I have changed to making up my own seed mix (recipe courtesy of Charla
    Kroll, another PET_BIRD noter).  In that I include some shelled
    sunflowers that I buy in a health-food store (a change from Charla's
    basic recipe, if memory serves).  We used to order Topper for all
    our birds because of the no-sunflower recipe, but had switched 
    to Kay-Tee's commercial Safflower Deluxe Mix (I think that is the
    name).  Now they get the home-mixed variety with the shelled
    sunflowers being just a small part of the recipe.  There is less mess 
    and better control in avoiding giving bad seeds to the birds (when they
    are in the shell, you can't see if they are moldy or buggy).  A related
    note: the avian vet we go to advised against using the in-the-shell
    sunflowers sold as wild bird food for our cage birds (Littleton [MA]
    Animal Clinic-Dr. Alexandra Kilgore) because of the quality-control
    issues with seeds marked "not for human consumption" -- that old
    guideline of "if you wouldn't eat it, should you be feeding it to 
    your birds?" is very helpful (also applies to produce that is 
    questionable).    
      
    because of an even greater chance of contamination and poor quality.
258.4cornbreadRAINBO::WIMMERFri Sep 15 1989 16:356
    There was a recipe in the latest issue of Bird Talk for corn bread with
    hulled sunflower seeds, grated carrots and whatever else you want to
    throw in.  I think I'll make up a batch this weekend and see what the
    kids think of it.  Maybe the "slowly weaning" baby will like it!
    
    D