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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

135.0. "My Cockatiel is mad at me" by FDCV06::THOMPSON () Sat Mar 04 1989 06:18

    Hello I would like to know if anyone else has had a problem with
    a second Cockateil.  I recently bought another bird and have had
    my first Cockatiel for about 2years.  The problem is my first bird
    has completly stopped making any noise at all and has come down
    with a cold.  He seems to get along with the new bird very well
    but I am getting worried about him.  The new one hasn't done anything
    yet except sit on top of his cage.  I know the new one should become
    comfortable in time.  I kept the tw of them apart for the first
    few days and then put them together and they always sit side by
    side in quiet.  I had to take the older bird out and put him in
    another cage because of his cold and low and behold he start to
    sing...    Any advice would be helpful to make both birds happy...
    
    Steve
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135.1WITNES::HANNULACat Tails & Bike Wheels Don't MixMon Mar 06 1989 11:1837
    I haven't had any experience with this, but I'll hazard afew guesses.
    
    o	Now that you have separated the 2 - where are the separate cages
    located?  You probably want to keep the cages far apart sicne C1
    is sick.  But after C1 is healthy again, you could try putting the
    cages right next to each other, side by side.  This way, the 2 birds
    could get used to eachother, yet still feel that they have their
    own territory.
    
    o	Once the birds got familiar with each other, you could gradually
    start putting them together in the same cage.  At first I would
    just put them together for a few hours, depending on their reactions
    to being together.  
    
    o 	When you got C2, did you get a new cage to house C1 and C2,
    or did you put C2 into C1's cage.  If you put C1 in a new cage,
    the new cage could be the reason for the quiet as opposed to the
    new bird.  Bird are peculiar about changes - they tend not to like
    them.
    
    o	If it's not feasible for you to keep the 2 birds separated for
    a while and gradually get to know eachother, you could try putting
    the 2 birds together anyway, and make them work out their differences
    on their own.  As long as they aren't hurting eachother, I don't
    see this as a real problem.  C1 could just be being stubborn - birds
    are like that - and is playing the martyr routine, you know the
    "put another bird in my cage and I'll show you - I'll just go in
    a corner and not talk until you take that thing out of my cage"

    But, before you do anything, you want to make sure C1 is over his
    cold, and then wait another week.  Changes in a bird's environemnt
    cause them stress, making the suceptible to illnesses and colds.
    
    
    Good luck.
    
    	-Nancy
135.2More on adding new members.SVCRUS::BUCCIERIMon Mar 06 1989 14:1126
    Hi,
    
    Just a few comments on this situation.  Note .1 made some very good
    suggestions given the limited amount of information that you provided.
    If you do decide to eventually put these two birds together you
    will want to be sure that the cage is large enough for the two of
    them to co-exist comfortably.  When you introduce a second bird
    into a cage that was traditionally another birds domicile there
    will be a turf war.  You can reduce the stress factor by doing a
    few different things.  Put in an extra food and water dish to the
    cage when you introduce the new bird.  This will keep both birds
    from fighting over one dish.  Be sure to give both birds equal
    amounts of individual attention.  You may want to increase the amount
    of vitamins that you give your birds to help them stay healthy during
    this adjustment period.  Note .1 suggested separate cages for a
    period of time until they got acquainted with each other.  This
    is the best advise.  You can put them together outside of the cages
    and allow them to interface that way.  When you decide to put them
    together at a later date you should really consider putting separate
    dishes as well.  If your first cockie has a cold you may want to
    call the vet.  I would get them on anti-biotics as soon as possible.
    Birds don't get over colds that easily.  I don't want to alarm you
    but a call to the vet would be highly reccommended.  I hope this
    helps.
    
    Jim Buccieri 
135.3Ancestry???EUREKA::WHITEthe PARROT_TROOPERMon Mar 06 1989 19:1010
    For what it's worth, I have never experienced this problem with
    any of my cockatiels. I frequently move the 'young_uns' from cage
    to cage. I also "colony" breed them. I was wondering if this makes
    any cosmic difference in the reactions of newcomers.
    
    Oh well, an interresting point to ponder, lets ask Jean?
    
    chet
    
    
135.4Still QuietFDCV06::THOMPSONWed Mar 08 1989 04:1916
    The cage I have is huge and big enough for a very large Parrot.
    I did put the 2 birds together due to space limitations in my home
    and they get along great.  They clean each other and only fight when
    they both want the spot next to the mirror to sleep.  Both birds
    eat very well and seem healthy but they are both very quiet.  All
    they seam to want to do is just sit on top of the cage and will
    only go back in the cage when they are hungry.  The only time they
    make any noise at all is when I pick one of them up and walk away.
    The other one will start screaching and then the one I have on my
    finger will fly back to the cage.  The cockatiel with the cold has
    a blocked nose but stopped sneezing and seems O.K. 
    
    I am leaving them both alone for a while and not working with them
    to see if they do anything by themselves.  
    
    Steve...
135.5The BIRDS' StoryCISM::LANDINGHAMIs it SUMMER yet???Thu Mar 09 1989 15:5822
    I, too had a single cockatiel for about three years [a male named
    Larry].  Then we bought a female [Lady].  [Larry-Bird... Lady-Bird...
    ARRRrrr].  Anyway, we had to buy a bigger cage, because Larry wanted
    to kill Lady at first.  He wouldn't let her eat, drink... nothing!
    
    We bought the bigger cage-- one like your's, the appropriate size
    for a large parrot.  Larry was still hostile, but the fortunate
    thing was that Lady was part of a colony when she was in the pet
    store.  She was used to having to fight her way to the food dish,
    etc., so she got along.  
    
    Next, we saw a reverse trend.  Lady would pick on Larry, and he'd
    back down [what a wimp]...  Finally, one year later, they're friends.
    They even flirt with each other.  She has picked up a lot of his
    traits [whistling, head-cocking, etc.], and vice versa.  At least,
    peace and harmony in the "Birds" family.
    
    They do occasionally bicker, but then, so do we...  Basically, though,
    it's a good mix!
    
    Good luck with yours!
    
135.6People are just substitutes?BTOVT::BURKE_LMon May 22 1989 14:0318
    I know this is rather after the fact but I thought I might add an
    observation of mine.
    
    My husband and I have had cockatiels now for 10 or 11 years.  We have
    found that one cockatiel will be very friendly and tame but when we add
    a second the first will bond with the second and have nothing to do
    with us.  We've experienced this several times.  One time we had a pair
    and one was friendly the other not.  The friendly one met with an
    untimely accident and died.  Ever after the other one was as friendly
    as could be.
    
    So it has appeared to us that we are just good substitutes for fellow
    feathered friends but when there are real feathered friend to play with
    we no longer count.
    
    FWIW
    
    Linda B
135.7not always trueFSTVAX::WIMMERTue May 23 1989 15:556
    My tiels are hand-fed and brothers, raised together.  Even though
    they havew always had each other, they still are INCREDIBLY friendly
    and love people.  In fact they compete with each other for the people
    attention and will actually shove each other out of the way to get
    to me. Still, they relly like each other and don't like to be
    seperated.
135.8CSG002::GAUGHANTue Apr 10 1990 13:5116
    Well my Tiel has gone wild or crazy or whatever.  This bird is 11
    months old and I have had him for about 5-6 months.  He would sit
    on my shoulder for hours, and would evern fly to my shoulder if
    I called him, He also talks alittle and is still trying.  Yesterday
    crazyness took ahold.  As soon as I get home I always let him out.
    He would fly around a little and then perch anywhere high.  Last
    night I let him out and He went thru the usual routine.  THAN he
    just sat up high on the cabinets and did nothing.  After about
    2 hours, I reached up to get him and He went crazy.  Usually if
    he does not want to be picked up he would just hit you easy with
    his beak, this time he was attacking.  He would not go back to his
    cage, get on my finger or  even whistle or talk, he just sat there.
    Every time I tried to get him, it was attack city.  Is this bird
    going wild/crazy or what.  I hate to do it, but I think I will have
    to get his wings clipped.  Maybe that is the problem.