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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

43.0. "bird bites" by SVCRUS::KROLL () Fri Nov 04 1988 20:28

    I got bit today when I stoped scratching max's head today.  guess
    he was not ready for me to quit.  I took his beak between my fingers
    and gently rocked his head back & forth and told him he was a bad
    bird.  somehow I do not think this is going to work.
    
    Any suggestions?
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43.1Grrrrrr!GLDOA::LROMANIKMon Nov 07 1988 15:5040
    At least you were smart enough to know why you got bit.  For the
    longest time I thought my Max was a schizoid.  It seemed to me that
    one minute he'd be allowing me to pet him, and the next he'd bite
    me.  Then one day the light dawned, and I realized that the bite
    occured as I was pulling my hand away to stop petting him.  Now,
    when I say bite, I'm not talking about breaking skin here.  Just
    a pinch that sometimes doesn't feel exactly great.  How bad a bite
    are you getting?
    
    I woman who owns a pet store and lots of birds of her own told me
    once to grab the beak like you did.  However I think this works
    only with hand fed birds that are not hand shy.  Max is too fast
    and would not let me get a hold of his beak, and when I did he'd
    just pull out of my grasp and bite me harder to say he doesn't like
    it.
    
    The best thing I have found is a loud sharp "NO!" in an angry tone
    of voice, or try growling.  After all, that's what they do to you
    (growl) when they don't like something.  You might also want to
    follow that by immediately walking away from the bird.  These guys
    aren't dumb.  It shouldn't take too long for him to figure out that
    the biting behaviour does not accomplish his goal (more petting).
    
    Also, something I read in one of my books helped put it into
    perspective.  It said that in the wild, if one bird is preening
    the other (and when we pet them, it's the equivalent of preening
    to the bird), and the preener does something wrong like hit a sensitive
    spot, or pull too hard, etc. the preenee will bite the preener to
    correct him/her.  You must not take it personally.  It is not a
    sign of aggression, ill-temper, or dislike.  Keeping this in mind
    helped me to deliver the correction to the bird without feeling
    angry.  And I've discovered that bird training is just like dog
    training in this respect.  The trick is to act angry to show your
    displeasure to the animal, without actually feeling anger inside.
    The moment I lose my temper or feel anger towards the animal, I
    have found that I cannot get anywhere with him.

    Is your bird hand raised or wild caught?
    
    Laura and Mad Max
43.243.1 Really Makes Sense!SQUEKE::HUTCHINSFeathered Obsessions AviaryMon Nov 07 1988 20:137
    
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    Laura, that was excellent!
    
    j
    
43.3I'll huff and puff and ....CSC32::K_WORKMANP.I.A.S.O.M.Tue Nov 08 1988 13:5715
    HowDy..
    
    My Grey likes to play Tarzan on my fingers.  He flips himself upside
    down then hangs there and makes funny noises (Tarzan in drag...).
    Anyway the only time he has bitten hard is when he uses his mouth
    to grab my finger to flip himself back up.  Screaming NO works but
    then he starts screaming NO all throughout the house... So... I
    started blowing real hard in his face when he bites and following
    it with a NO.  Blowing on him made him stop and think about things
    and so now he will just hang there and look up at me when he wants
    me to push his body back over.  
    
    Try blowing hard in his face!  
    
    Bye!
43.4"WHICH WAY DID HE GO....?"SALEM::VTOWLEMAGNUM FORCE,261-2467,NIO/P10Wed Nov 09 1988 09:4818
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      	Blowing in his face does work, that's what I have to do quite
    often.  It definately gets their attention!!  It is real comical
    to watch Max after I do that.  He looks around real quick to try
    to see who just walked by. (of course, no one walked by, Hee Hee)
    
    	Another neat thing is when Max wants me to rub under one of
    his wings, he will stretch out his wing, and I stroke the underside
    around his ribs and sometimes it seems to tickle him because he
    will let out a couple of screaches and back away, causing me to
    burst out in hysterical laughter!!  What a guy!
    
    	Grabbing his beak after he bites my finger (although he doesn't
    usually bite hard) and gently shaking his head while telling him
    "No" does help though.  Also, Max has started preening himself while
    I scratch his head and neck.  Quite a clown!!
    
    Vern
43.5grab beak did not workSVCRUS::KROLLFri Nov 11 1988 05:237
    yes my max is hand fed and grabbing the beak makes him think it
    is a new game and he is ready to play.  a quick medium tap on the
    beak with a sharp no seams to work best right now.  he is learning
    to rotate his head instead of bitting me.  or maybe its just that
    I am leaning when to stop.?
    
    who is training who?
43.6NEXUS::GORTMAKERWhatsa Gort?Mon Nov 14 1988 11:463
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    Both!