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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

851.0. "Unleaded gas futures?" by CONSLT::MCBRIDE (Reformatted to fit your screen) Thu Apr 20 1995 16:50

    I saw an infomercial last night on Unleaded gas options.  Anyone bought
    into this?  I am leary of infomercials in general and these folks
    seemed a little too slick.  Just curious if anyone in here has tried
    these and what their experience was.  
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851.1Yes, it's too simple to be realEVMS::HALLYBFish have no concept of fireThu Apr 20 1995 17:2923
    The standard infomercial "pitch" is that UR gas goes up in Summer as
    the Summer driving season kicks in. Six months from now they'll be
    pitching HO (heating oil) as the Winter heating season kicks in.
    
    Both pitches likely (I've not seen this -particular- one) stress the
    fact that the cash price follows a definite, more-or-less predictable,
    more-or-less obvious pattern. So, hey, buy gas in the Winter and sell
    it in the Summer, right? And buy options to limit your risk, right?
    
    Here's the problem: the entire petroleum industry, including producers,
    distributors and consumers, KNOW the fundamentals. And those prices are
    reflected in the price of the FUTURES contracts -- upon which OPTION
    prices are based. It does you no good to follow the CASH price of gas,
    since the FUTURES are where your price action takes place. And the
    futures are priced according to anticipated supply/demand and already
    take in to account my August driving trip to Illinois.
    
    That said, if you anticipate another oil boycott and gas lines, then
    of course you'll want to buy call options. But you can do that through
    discount brokers with a $2,500 min. account and pay ~$37 commission --
    a MUCH better deal than the slick infomercial company will offer.
    
      John
851.2SOLVIT::CHENFri Apr 21 1995 17:369
    I'll use a line that Bob Brinker (the radio talk show host) used when
    people asked him about those commercials for oil & natural gas options 
    during the fall season - "Do you think they are the only one who has
    noticed that the winter is coming?" 
    
    Now, apply that to this situation ...  Do you believe they are the only
    one on this planet earth noticed that the summer is coming?  :-)
    
    Mike