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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

785.0. "REDUCING LIFE OF MORTGAGE" by WMOIS::SPENCER_DEB () Thu Nov 10 1994 15:45

    I remember reading somewhere that if you pay the current month's
    mortgage payment, PLUS the next month's principal payment, you will
    cut the life of the mortgage in half.  In other words, in month 1 you'd
    pay M1 payment + M2 principal.  In M2, you'd pay M2 payment + M3
    principal, etc.
    
    Is this true?  If you didn't starting following this procedure right
    from the start, does it still hold true?  In other words, I have 22
    years left on my 30-year mortgage.  Would following  the above practice
    cut the life of my mortgage to 11 (in half)?
    
    Thanx for the help.
    
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785.1correctSLOAN::HOMThu Nov 10 1994 17:2930
There are some "gotcha's".

1.  With 22 years to go, the majority of your monthly payment is still
    interest.  As you move closer to paying off the mortgage,
    principal becomes a bigger chunk.

	Example:  $100K Principal 8%, 30 years:
		  Month   Payment    Principal  Interest
		    1     $733.76	$67.10   $666.67  
		    180    733.76	220.42    513.35
		    300	   733.76	489.25    244.52
		    350	   733.76	682.05	   51.05
	
     As you can see, at month 180, your payments are about 75% higher.
     In the last year, your payments are almost 100% higher.

     This may not be as difficult as it appears. Hopefullly, 10-15 years
     your income may double.

2.   Make sure that any extra payments are indeed used to pay the
     principal. There are a number of cases where the banks, etc have
     credited the extra payments to property tax, insurance, rather
     than the intended purpose.

If you start with 22 years remaining, and follow the above, you
will pay off the mortgage in 11 years.


Gim

785.2AMORTIZATION PROGRAM OR BOOKNWTIMA::BOUCHARD_MIFri Nov 11 1994 04:335
    RE NOTE 785
    IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TRACK IT YOU SHOULD LOOK IN TO GETTING AN
    AMORTIZATION PROGRAM FOR A PC OR GO TO A BOOKSTORE AND BUY A
    AMORTIZATION BOOK AND YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHATS GOING ON.
    							MIKE
785.3thanks!WMOIS::SPENCER_DEBFri Nov 11 1994 11:0911
    re. .1, .2
    
    Thanx for the info - you verified what I thought was true.  And, yes,
    my principal payments do go up over time, but like .1 said, hopefully,
    so will my income.
    
    .2 yes, I do have an amortization spreadsheet I'm going by.
    
    Thanx again,
    Deb
    
785.4You're hurting our eyes12368::michaudJeff Michaud, UC1Fri Nov 11 1994 14:233
Re: .2

	Hey Mike, why are you SHOUTING?
785.5I WAS WHISPERINGNWTIMA::BOUCHARD_MISat Nov 12 1994 00:074
    I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS SHOUTING...I WAS TOLD THAT BEFORE BY SOMEONE ELSE
    SORRY IF IT SOUND THAT WAY.I WAS TOLD BY SOMEONE THAT IT SEEMS THAT WAY
    WHEN YOU USA ALL CAPS.SORRY IF YOU FELT AFFENDED.
    mike
785.6Another approachPOBOX::CORSONHigher, and a bit more to the rightMon Nov 14 1994 20:249
    
    	May want to take another tack. 
    
    	Look at taking the difference in mortgage payments and applying
    those additional funds to a good mutual fund, or bond fund for that
    matter. Over time you may find yourself paid off with $$$ to spare.
    
    
    		the Greyhawk
785.7WRKSYS::WEISSWed Nov 23 1994 15:2517
    I'm sorta doing this, but not following the prescription exactly.  For
    instance, this month's principal payment and next month's will be
    almost the same, so if you don't have an amortization table or don't
    want to bother, just double the principal for the current month as
    shown on your bank statement and send that in.  Also, I'm not
    calculating this out to the penny either.  I have just been rounding
    out to the nearest $25 or $50, and sending that in.  Some months I'll
    send a little extra principal, and sometimes a little less (than
    double).
    
    Note also that you're really sending in (P1 + P2) on your first
    payment, (P3 + P4) on your second, (P5 + P6) on your third, etc, from
    the ORIGINAL 30 yr amortization table.  If you're not sending in
    an extra amount equal to roughly the principal the bank is applying
    from your last/current payment, you're not doing it right.
    
    ...Ken